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[heimdall]

Rafa has a big variants book then does he, has he lost the key to it or something, how often does his substitutions produce a goal, how often does he change tactics in the middle of a game? Am I missing something here apart form a team capable of getting motivated by their manager and therefore able to score goals against fecking West Ham and Fulham at home!!
This is clearly just a poor joke now, I personally hope Rafa doesn't get the contract extension, he doesn't deserve it after the last few matches, in fact this season we have scraped a lot of narrow wins but haven't once truly controlled a match, we are arguably worse than the second half of last season, it's just that the other top teams are also wobbly at the moment but that won't last for ever.

problem we have no is the manc always look like scoring they will steam roller the prem now you wait and see bcos fergie no matter how old he gets knows what attacking football is and teachs his players this on the training field. 

yes and if a player is he doesn't play them unlike Rafa who will continue like a machine absolutely relentless and with no remorse for us poor fans, he has no capacity for change and lacks any tactical imagination.
I'm now fed up with him, if he can't see that it might be a good idea to try Babel up front then he is a fecking idiot, by taking Keane off game after game he is proving to be an idiot.

[NANNY RED]

Ive just got back up out of bed, cause i cant sleep cause Rafas subs where bizzare tonight to say the least.
Im goin back to bed god i am gutted.

Get yourself to sleep imagining the scarf roud Gillettes neck choking the you might get a good night kip then with a smile on your face

[Sabre]

That Japan cup did not good to us and hopefully will have the same effect on Manchester United.

It's not only that you play extra games, it's aswell that when you come back you have more accumulated games to play in less time. It could be a factor, and in those close league races it may be an important one.

[Rush Job]

Rafas not a man manager though. We cant expect him to change his style of management to accomodate 1 player can we? Keane should buck up and make the most of his time so that Rafa doesnt keep subbing him. I know its harsh but under Rafa its the only way he will survive. If not he will be out after 2 years maybe.

A good manager will  have alot of styles and fit the players he has to make the best of what he has got.

Plus rafa bought this player remeber if he doesn't fit into the system that is rafas fault why pay 20 mil for a player that don't fit into your system.

Making any sense ?

Rafa wanted Barry though.... and ended up with Keane.

so save the fu.cking 20 mil don't spend it just bcos you can't get the player you want no excues.

I dont dissagree mate.

[heimdall]

Rafa has a big variants book then does he, has he lost the key to it or something, how often does his substitutions produce a goal,

As often as we've done come backs and got goals in the last minutes of the match?

This is clearly just a poor joke now, I personally hope Rafa doesn't get the contract extension, he doesn't deserve it after the last few matches, in fact this season we have scraped a lot of narrow wins but haven't once truly controlled a match,

Are you sure you're from Norway and not from Madrid mate?

I only remember something similar when Capello won the league and he wasn't offered a new contract

Come on 

I can see how my comment about Rafa can seem a bit harsh as we are top of the league but in my opinion we have not looked comfortable in any game, and the late winners are more down to a bit of luck and hard work from the players rather than any inspired substitutions or subtle changes in formations/tactics from Rafa.

Anyway Real Madrid fans must be a compete bunch of wits. Too sack Capello once after him winning them the league can maybe be forgiven but twice, come on even I think that is ridiculous, especially as I cansider Capello a much better coach than Rafa. there is just no way Rafa could have got the England team working the way Capello now has.

[heimdall]

That Japan cup did not good to us and hopefully will have the same effect on Manchester United.

It's not only that you play extra games, it's aswell that when you come back you have more accumulated games to play in less time. It could be a factor, and in those close league races it may be an important one.

We should win becuase we are the best not have to hope our opponents get injuries or have extra matches 

[puroresu]

For £20 mil I would rather have in no Particular order

1. Fabiano
2. Kanoute
3. Hunterlaar
4. Diego
5. Arshavin

Keane was a waste of money.

[Sabre]

We should win becuase we are the best not have to hope our opponents get injuries or have extra matches 

That's so beautiful to read that almost brought me a tear, but thank God Manchester United also have problems.

Because having our best striker injured 3 times means we also have our deal of problems. You won't see Chelsea or Manchester complaining about winning the league because we missed Torres during his injuries and he hadn't games in a row to get a good form.

[heimdall]

We should win becuase we are the best not have to hope our opponents get injuries or have extra matches 

That's so beautiful to read that almost brought me a tear, but thank God Manchester United also have problems.

Because having our best striker injured 3 times means we also have our deal of problems. You won't see Chelsea or Manchester complaining about winning the league because we missed Torres during his injuries and he hadn't games in a row to get a good form.

You Spanish are so emotional, calm down.

The difference is that Man Utd and Chelsea have more than one striker so they can cope with an injury. I think Chelsea have had a few more injuries this season than us and didn't Man Utd start off with Ronaldo out of the team?

Personally I prefer to win with honour and that means winning by being the best, and not hoping other teams suffer injuries, I take it you have a differing view.

[Sabre]

Yes, I do. Because when you look at 1995 you remember who won the league. Not how. That's how we're emotional around here.

Anyhow, it's ok to have differing views.

[LegBarnes]

For £20 mil I would rather have in no Particular order

1. Fabiano
2. Kanoute
3. Hunterlaar
4. Diego
5. Arshavin

Keane was a waste of money.

but lets remember he isn't a waste of money bcos he is a bad play no no.

He is only a waste of money bcos rafa buys him then plays him out of posistion and not to his strenghts thats why he still could be a good player for us if rafa changes the system.

We need to play a 4-4-1-1 with keane in the hole and a channel running up front working the line then we might start to open teams up.

[LegBarnes]

Rafas not a man manager though. We cant expect him to change his style of management to accomodate 1 player can we? Keane should buck up and make the most of his time so that Rafa doesnt keep subbing him. I know its harsh but under Rafa its the only way he will survive. If not he will be out after 2 years maybe.

A good manager will  have alot of styles and fit the players he has to make the best of what he has got.

Plus rafa bought this player remeber if he doesn't fit into the system that is rafas fault why pay 20 mil for a player that don't fit into your system.

Making any sense ?

Rafa wanted Barry though.... and ended up with Keane.

so save the fu.cking 20 mil don't spend it just bcos you can't get the player you want no excues.

I dont dissagree mate.

I know i just think its madness how rafa is setting up his players to fail then chatting in post match interviews about how we had chances and didn't take them.

How will that help the likes of keane with his confidence.

He is basicly scape goating his self and making the players look bad its digraceful way for manager to talk.

If he had balls he would say its my fault I didn't get tactics right tonight I fu.cked up.

Remeber kevin keegen after he quit england that is real manager he said I am just not good enuff i can't get this team to win , just don't make managers like that any more.

[Emerald Red]

Rafa has a big variants book then does he, has he lost the key to it or something, how often does his substitutions produce a goal, how often does he change tactics in the middle of a game? Am I missing something here apart form a team capable of getting motivated by their manager and therefore able to score goals against fecking West Ham and Fulham at home!!
This is clearly just a poor joke now, I personally hope Rafa doesn't get the contract extension, he doesn't deserve it after the last few matches, in fact this season we have scraped a lot of narrow wins but haven't once truly controlled a match, we are arguably worse than the second half of last season, it's just that the other top teams are also wobbly at the moment but that won't last for ever.

Quality post this, but not in a good way. Benitez' statistics of substitutions making an impact in a game have been better than any manager in the league over the past 4 years. There was a very insightful thread about this over at RAWK with plenty of stats for all you stats whores and doubters. Do a bit of research before you start spouting off.

As for the game, I'm seriously disappointed with us not making up more ground than what we should be. Our confidence just seems a bit low at the minute for some reason. We're perhaps slightly just lacking a player, bar Torres of course, of being good enough to eventually win the title this season, but who knows. If we get to January and we're still top of the table, who could ask for more than that?

Oh, we all can have a go at the players and even the manager, but people seem to omit the fact that the fans inside Anfield have been f*cking shyte, lets be honest about it. There's some quality whoppers going to the game, and it's a disgrace that 1000 or so West Ham fans out sang everyone inside Anfield tonight. The players need to show passion, aye, but so do you w@nkers inside the ground. Where the f*ck has the atmosphere gone to that we're meant to be so famous for? Sort it f*cking out!

[Emerald Red]

Rafas not a man manager though. We cant expect him to change his style of management to accomodate 1 player can we? Keane should buck up and make the most of his time so that Rafa doesnt keep subbing him. I know its harsh but under Rafa its the only way he will survive. If not he will be out after 2 years maybe.

A good manager will  have alot of styles and fit the players he has to make the best of what he has got.

Plus rafa bought this player remeber if he doesn't fit into the system that is rafas fault why pay 20 mil for a player that don't fit into your system.

Making any sense ?

Rafa wanted Barry though.... and ended up with Keane.

so save the fu.cking 20 mil don't spend it just bcos you can't get the player you want no excues.

I dont dissagree mate.

I know i just think its madness how rafa is setting up his players to fail then chatting in post match interviews about how we had chances and didn't take them.

How will that help the likes of keane with his confidence.

Lets be honest about it, Keane was muck tonight, and he knew it. If you asked him, he'd be the first to say he was shyte and he deserved to go off.

[neil]

jesus christ guys, we're all a little dissappointed at the draw but wtf? we're clear at the top of the prem, we've already beaten man u and chelsea and everton lol. I've been both 0-0's and I wished we'd won but s4it happens, and this s4it is bearable. Free Micheal now.