Liverpool FC Forum

[redno7]

Exactly, TBH, this FSG have overstayed their welcome. They' got us out of possible administration 2 years ago and now they do not have the funds to move us forward. And for a club like Liverpool with high expectations because of our rich history, this is totally unacceptable, maybe to a mid table side but definitely not Liverpool. If they are going to be like this next summer, then they must sell to someone who can provide the funds to sign the players we need leave otherwise we'll be a stranded at mid table like now.

...as opposed to playing Championship football or possible non existance that would of definatly happened had they not had the 'balls' to bail us out in the first place. Don't bite the hand that feeds you mate and be very careful what you wish for. They could pull the plug on us anytime they want but they don't, why not? because they own us and want to make us self sufficient/funding whilst keeping us in the premier league and so far they've done just that.

Give Brendan a few quid in Jan/summer and start building on what we have. We're doing all this WITHOUT the champ.league money too...  pretty good job too if you ask me!

oh looky here... this is me replying to a post and I'm actually having a debate and trying to contribute.
thats proved you wrong again.

oh the joy

[The Raven]

Without wanting to carry this on what i mean is simple

Instead of replying with swear words or name calling to my posts try to put your point of view over about the subject.

I am a liverpool fan, i have been for a very long time, i am currently concerned by the club and i will point out things i disagree with. I am however open to other ways of looking at things when they are presented in a good manner.

[stmichael]

I think the man genuinely has a plan

Yeah   ??? ,  so did Icarus.

Not calling for the managers head but talk is cheap, I'd be far happier if his platitudes were replaced with actual results. His interaction with the press since he became our manager has only (imo) highlighted a lack of maturity when dealing with this aspect of management.

I'm sensing a bit of a swerve from some supporters towards putting responsibility for failure to win more firmly on the players performances rather than the managers decisions. As somebody pointed out, on paper we have a more talented squad than many of the teams who have been outperforming us, surely therefore it's not unreasonable to question whether the manager, given what's available to him, is with his "philosophy" and tactics  underachieving 

Maybe because of the managerial changes we've experienced in recent years many of us are just praying that this fella is at last the "right" one and just don't want to entertain the thought that maybe he isn't.

I hope he succeeds but as time ticks by I'm not as optimistic as I was upon his arrival.

the manager's tactics or philosophy has nothing to do with the inability of our players to shoot properly at the weekend. he doesn't make joe cole give the ball away in a ridiculous area. he doesn't make joe allen not bother to track his midfield runner for the second goal either. the players were a complete joke and let themselves and the manager down. i'm putting that display down as a one off for now as it can't get any worse. we've lost 2 games in 13 and haven't been playing that bad overall. we've also been robbed by some of the most inept officiating i can remember this season.

nobody is happy with being 12th but the table is ridiculously congested at the moment from 5th downwards. i don't see how the manager can be judged after one transfer window when he brought in two players, one of whom has been injured for three months.

[7_Kewell]

so BR isn't any good because a few results in his first 5 months as manager?  you couldn't make it up 

[eds]

I expected a mixed bag from Brendan Rodgers and so far he has delivered a mixed bag of results.

No need to get up in arms over what is going on. It was a terrible result on the weekend but our inconsistency can be expected so early on in Rodger's tenure.

As posters have already mentioned we are only 5 points from 5th and 7 points from 4th. Not the end of the world stuff, fans are carrying on about.

Realistically I don't think we will finish in the top 4 this season but I am hoping Rodgers brings in geniune quality in the next 2 transfer windows.

As mentioned I just hope he doesn't bring in more overpriced local rubbish, because that mentality has set us back a bit with the likes of Adam, Carroll, Downing and Henderson.

[killerp]

I'm a bit worried with all these links to Sturridge & Ince plus the comments that January wont provide many solutions. Some of us will be expecting better reinforcement than that, will be a rough ride through to May for Rogers if he gets these signings totally wrong.

We already have little soft Boroni sidelined, Assaidi nowhere to be seen, Sahin bench warming, Allen dip in form! 

[alwayslfc]

Many do not agree with signing Sturridge and Ince. True, those 2 may not be Messi's standard but they will do considering our position in the table and the limited budget for BR in January.  Sturridge though a Chelsea reject will add more firepower, speed, creativity, assists and goals up front and he's the sort of player that we need. Ince will be brilliant to have around to currently rotate with Sterling. But I have to say, it will be a transfer joke to sell him for less than a quarter of a million and buy him back for 6 million. Where in the world have you heard of this kind of transfer except Liverpool?

[laza]

I expected a mixed bag from Brendan Rodgers and so far he has delivered a mixed bag of results.

No need to get up in arms over what is going on. It was a terrible result on the weekend but our inconsistency can be expected so early on in Rodger's tenure.

As posters have already mentioned we are only 5 points from 5th and 7 points from 4th. Not the end of the world stuff, fans are carrying on about.

Realistically I don't think we will finish in the top 4 this season but I am hoping Rodgers brings in geniune quality in the next 2 transfer windows.

As mentioned I just hope he doesn't bring in more overpriced local rubbish, because that mentality has set us back a bit with the likes of Adam, Carroll, Downing and Henderson.

Interesting hardly a mention about BR after we beat Southampton, Udinese and West Ham but now five pages since the loss to Villa
Like you while it was a terrible result on Sunday Im not getting the burning torch out as its still too early in his reign for him to be judged by these results.

Any fan with half a brain knows that in this current situation the club find itself and its irrespective if you want to blame FSG, Hicks, Rafa, Roy , Kenny or BR for it.
Patience is needed and patience needs to be more then  half a season

Find you last comments about buying local somewhat ironic considering it didnt seem too long ago that posters on here were annoucing that  foreign players were soul less mercs who dont play with anything like passion or heart of the local product.

Its a funny old game and like most things in life seems to go in cycles

[Thommo's perm]

Patience needs to be more than half a season?
People havent even got patience for two games!

[friendlyguy33]

I think the man genuinely has a plan

Yeah   ??? ,  so did Icarus.

Not calling for the managers head but talk is cheap, I'd be far happier if his platitudes were replaced with actual results. His interaction with the press since he became our manager has only (imo) highlighted a lack of maturity when dealing with this aspect of management.

I'm sensing a bit of a swerve from some supporters towards putting responsibility for failure to win more firmly on the players performances rather than the managers decisions. As somebody pointed out, on paper we have a more talented squad than many of the teams who have been outperforming us, surely therefore it's not unreasonable to question whether the manager, given what's available to him, is with his "philosophy" and tactics  underachieving 

Maybe because of the managerial changes we've experienced in recent years many of us are just praying that this fella is at last the "right" one and just don't want to entertain the thought that maybe he isn't.

I hope he succeeds but as time ticks by I'm not as optimistic as I was upon his arrival.

the manager's tactics or philosophy has nothing to do with the inability of our players to shoot properly at the weekend. he doesn't make joe cole give the ball away in a ridiculous area. he doesn't make joe allen not bother to track his midfield runner for the second goal either. the players were a complete joke and let themselves and the manager down. i'm putting that display down as a one off for now as it can't get any worse. we've lost 2 games in 13 and haven't been playing that bad overall. we've also been robbed by some of the most inept officiating i can remember this season.

nobody is happy with being 12th but the table is ridiculously congested at the moment from 5th downwards. i don't see how the manager can be judged after one transfer window when he brought in two players, one of whom has been injured for three months.

He signed Borini, Allen, Assaidi, and Yesil in the summer window, the latter two have yet to start a premiership game.

Fair enough give the manager time in the previous window and the next but it was more than two players that he signed when he arrived.

[bunglemark2]

Some Boston newspaper - don't have the link - says he has 40m to spend in the transfer window.....interesting.....hope he can add to that by shipping out Cole for a start....

[The Raven]

Some Boston newspaper - don't have the link - says he has 40m to spend in the transfer window.....interesting.....hope he can add to that by shipping out Cole for a start....

40m? inc wages ect i suspect.

[LFC1990]

40m is alright aslong as we buy the right players. No point buying 3 goalkeepers and a right back.

Everyone can see the problem with Liverpool its scoring goals. Whether that is down to the forwards or not getting midfielders in the box money needs to be spent well in January and not splashed on overpriced players simply because there young british or because its january.

Ince and Sturridge for me seem ok in terms of price 16Million for the pair isnt bad business.

Unless we get Walcott i think the rest of the transfer budget should be spent aborad. Heard rumours about Turan from atletico madrid and Yilmaz from Galatasaray.

With Yilmaz a bit further ahead on my list as he offers us something diffrent being 6FT 2 but not like carrol that he is too 1 dimensional.

Cover for left back is also what is needed in January as im hoping we can ship out Downing and even if we  dont Downing as left back cover is not great and i think Johnson is better playing from the right

[alwayslfc]

Without wanting to carry this on what i mean is simple

Instead of replying with swear words or name calling to my posts try to put your point of view over about the subject.

I am a liverpool fan, i have been for a very long time, i am currently concerned by the club and i will point out things i disagree with. I am however open to other ways of looking at things when they are presented in a good manner.

Agree with you mate. Some forum members are just not mature enough to voice out their reasons if they disagree with the opinions of other members but unfortunately resort to name calling and ridicule. Should click on the report abuse tab if happens again in future.

[Kenny Kan]

As somebody pointed out, on paper we have a more talented squad than many of the teams who have been outperforming us, As somebody pointed out, on paper we have a more talented squad than many of the teams who have been outperforming us, ]

I don't believe we have  such a talented squad as you or others believe.