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[maguskwt]

Canavaro is 5 times better than carra and agger, world class defender if you ask me.

Can't have that.

Maybe technically better than Carra, and stronger than Agger. Carra trumps his defensive abilities IMHO. Maybe slightly better overall but not 5 times.

I disagree, I love Carragher, I wouldn't swap him for Canavarro, but Canavarro is much more better than Carra.

for a 5 foot 6 or something, Canavarro is better in the air than Carragher, he is a better footballer and he is slightly clever than Carra.

errr... great choice... cannavaro... he's 5' 9" btw... you guys do know how to play fantasy football don't you... 

anyway i don't see why he would not see his contract out at Real... and by that time he'll be 37... I don't know about you but I don't want him at that age... nor even now... we need to look for the future...

[Feugo]

micah richards. has the pace and is stil very young. pace is the one thing we lack at the back.

yea I love to see Micah Richards too, his counter attack always amaze me.. IMO Rafa need to gamble and put Hobbs in action

[Red H]

Well this may be a bit out of left field bu the CB who's impressed me most this season, in the PL, is Samba at Blackburn (he is a monster of a player). However Rafa will probably choose a Argentine, or other South American hardcase playing in the Primera, that my ingnorance of Latin football prevents me from knowing.  Sabre's probably got the best view on that.

[JC_81]

Well this may be a bit out of left field bu the CB who's impressed me most this season, in the PL, is Samba at Blackburn (he is a monster of a player). However Rafa will probably choose a Argentine, or other South American hardcase playing in the Primera, that my ingnorance of Latin football prevents me from knowing.  Sabre's probably got the best view on that.

I still maintain we don't need a centre back in January.

However, if we did I think there are plenty of good centre backs around at the moment.

Samba is a great shout actually.  I think both he and Nelson at Blackburn are players that would be more than capable of playing at a bigger club.  I also think Steven Taylor at Newcastle is a player, who if played alongside other competent defenders in a well organised unit, would look a very good defender indeed.

[bigmick]

I like Samba at Blackburn as well, a very good player who nicks a goal or two.

On Sabre's point about Cannavaro, I can't believe people are seriously doubting that he is better than either of our two currently. Five times better maybe pushing it a bit (and how do you measure it anyway) but quite a bit better would be fair enough. Feck me he won World player of the year a couple of seasons back. What next, Benayoun is better than Ronaldino?

[66-1112520797]

I know it would be highly unlikey to get him but I'd go for as europeon kings said Micah Richards.

It makes sense, initially I'd buy him as a direct replacment for Finnan who isnt getting any younger, then when needed shift him to CB if Agger or Carra were injured. Move Arbeloa accross to the right side and play Aurelio at Left back.

There you go, I've just killed two birds with one stone.

[Red H]

Quote (Red H @ Dec. 06 2007,19:13)
Well this may be a bit out of left field bu the CB who's impressed me most this season, in the PL, is Samba at Blackburn (he is a monster of a player). However Rafa will probably choose a Argentine, or other South American hardcase playing in the Primera, that my ingnorance of Latin football prevents me from knowing.  Sabre's probably got the best view on that.

I still maintain we don't need a centre back in January.

However, if we did I think there are plenty of good centre backs around at the moment.

Samba is a great shout actually.  I think both he and Nelson at Blackburn are players that would be more than capable of playing at a bigger club.  I also think Steven Taylor at Newcastle is a player, who if played alongside other competent defenders in a well organised unit, would look a very good defender indeed.

Taylor would be great esp. if any "home player" type quotas come in

[LFC2007]

On Sabre's point about Cannavaro, I can't believe people are seriously doubting that he is better than either of our two currently. Five times better maybe pushing it a bit (and how do you measure it anyway) but quite a bit better would be fair enough. Feck me he won World player of the year a couple of seasons back. What next, Benayoun is better than Ronaldino?

I think Carra is as good a defender as Cannavaro is.

Winning player of the year was basically down to the fact that he captained an excellent Italian side, winning the WC.

It's not Carra's fault our national team are shit.

When people come out with overstatements such as 'he is 5 times better than Carra', it prompts a re-balancing post - much in the same way as you and your anti-r bandwagon overstate the issue of rotation, as if it's some sort of AntiChrist.

It's not a 'given' that he is better. Carra was part of a team who defeated Cannavaro's Juventus on the way to winning the UCL, in a team that, by consensus was not nearly as talented as the vast preponderance of previous UCL winners.


And yes, Benayoun is better than Ronaldinho at this present moment.

[Sabre]

Why are we even having this conversation? And why are people talking about Cannavaro? We have JC & DA with Hyypia, Hobbs and Arbeloa for CB if need be.

Sabre are you saying Cannavaro is better than Agger or JC? We need to put all our money into a class right winger we all know that!!!

I wasn't saying that exactly, but if you push me, I have to say he's probably better. Better than Agger because of experience, and better than Carra in footballing attributes.

But the thing with Carra is that he has that something, that makes him irreplaceable, there are players that are good defenders, but their attitude in the pitch and their experience make them even better.

What I was actually saying is that for me, in case we make signing ups (that's the thread topic), we don't need players that will give us "options". We don't need more Arbeloas, or Benayouns, our squad is deep enough now and with a lot of options. In case we sign up somebody for the CB, if you want to bring someone that MIGHT be better for us than the current two, you really have to look at the likes of Cannavaro. One day you'll have to replace Hyypia and the player who comes must be as good for us as he has been, and I guarantee you there are less than 4 CB in all the liga  good enough for that.

[Scottbot]

I wouldn't sign any centre backs in January.  Agger's almost fit and Hyypia's still good enough.  Then there's Hobbs - what's the point in having a reserve team if the captain isn't considered good enough to be 4th choice centre back for the first team??

But if money's burning a hole in Rafa's pocket then I recommend Kaladze.  Nearing the end of his contract and equally good at CB and LB.  If rumours are correct, Rafa is interested already.

It's a good point on Hobbs but I don't have much confidence in Rafa bringing through many (if any) of the young lads currently playing in the reserve team. I wouldn't be surprised if the likes of Roque, Idrajiz, Spearing, Putteril (i like this lad) and the others are playing their football in the Championship in two years time. They will see a bit of time in the League Cup i expect but Rafa doesn't take many risks when it comes to young players and given the choice of buying an experienced South American/Spanish defender for £3-5 milion or gambling on one of the kids, he will unfortunately imho take the first option everytime.

As for Cannavaro, great player, would walk into any side in the world BUT he's a fantasy football signing when we're looking for a 4th choice CB. Chris Samba is not a bad shout, my cousin is a season ticket holder at Rovers and has been raving about this lad (as well as Stevie Warnock!) all season. I also like Steven Taylor at Newcastle and Distin is another good shout. Both players would want to play though so i don't think a deal like that would happen unless we released Sami, so can't see either happening until the summer, if at all.

[Cool Hand Luke]

I think we should definitely sign someone in January. That someone needs to be groomed into the third choice centre back for next season.

How much is Hobbs going to improve being our 4th choice? If we can get someone in during January then why not loan Hobbs out for the season and have Hyypia and the new centre back as cover. If fact, I would probably do the exact same thing next season, have Carragher and Agger as first choice, new centre back and Hyypia as cover, and loan Hobbs out for the season. Then we can let Hyypia go at the end of next season and Hobbs comes in to compete with one and a half seasons of first team football under his belt.

[The Manhattan Project]

Sergio Ramos.

Not sure how much we'd have to pay for him though.

A lot probably.

[Penguins]

Some should stop dreaming here 

Richards, Ramos...?

We're talking around 15 million here each at least. In a January transfer window? Not ever going to happen...
Looking for a 3rd 4th choice and cheap. I'm convinced there isn't that much money to spend. Has to think about Masch and the summer spending too.

[The Manhattan Project]

Well, it has to be narrowed down to two things:

- Who is available?
- Who is affordable?

[mkingdom]

Well as Boro are doomed....

Woodgate would be a good signing.

Should only be £5m or so, and he is still quality IMO.