made in UK wrote:Nothing to do with the referendum per say, but I hope all that hot air of exchanging the Pound for the Euro has stopped. Countries like Spain, Portugual and Greece and in debts of Billions and each individual country can do feck all with their interest rates as thats commanded buy some French banker for the Euro as a whole. The interest rate is the countries first line of defence in helping an economy all the countries who have the Euro don't have that anymore as its governed by some tw@t elsewhere. The Euro is feck! I read that it is so bad now, that it can drag the UK back into a recession with it because the Euro's are resisting buying our export at a high price in comparison. Also I read that some countries in the future may break away from the shackles of the Euro and go back to an independent currency.
Long live the Pound!
heimdall wrote:The biggest mistake the EU ever made was letting these shaky (in terms of economy) countries in, it will be the death of it. They either need to boot these countries out or dissolve the whole bloody thing, I favour the latter as I have never liked the concept of the EU and now it's just become a bigger and bigger drain on resources for the wealthy countries.
JoeTerp wrote:heimdall wrote:The biggest mistake the EU ever made was letting these shaky (in terms of economy) countries in, it will be the death of it. They either need to boot these countries out or dissolve the whole bloody thing, I favour the latter as I have never liked the concept of the EU and now it's just become a bigger and bigger drain on resources for the wealthy countries.
down the right path, now why don't you extrapolate that idea to its natural conclusion. Why stop at the country level? why not take it to the county/province level or the city level? or the neighborhood level? or the individual level?
heimdall wrote:JoeTerp wrote:heimdall wrote:The biggest mistake the EU ever made was letting these shaky (in terms of economy) countries in, it will be the death of it. They either need to boot these countries out or dissolve the whole bloody thing, I favour the latter as I have never liked the concept of the EU and now it's just become a bigger and bigger drain on resources for the wealthy countries.
down the right path, now why don't you extrapolate that idea to its natural conclusion. Why stop at the country level? why not take it to the county/province level or the city level? or the neighborhood level? or the individual level?
No I think that would be inefficient, you need to have some form of centralised control, in Europe that has worked for a long time at the country level until the EU started forcing ancient enemies together, ok I'm over-dramatising a bit but you see what I mean, e.g the Dutch and the Germans who fecking hate each other about as much as the Brits and the French.
Other than forming an economic block to counter China and the US I can see no need for the EU and in any case EFTA can provide that same economic block in a more efficient manner.
Bad Bob wrote:heimdall wrote:JoeTerp wrote:heimdall wrote:The biggest mistake the EU ever made was letting these shaky (in terms of economy) countries in, it will be the death of it. They either need to boot these countries out or dissolve the whole bloody thing, I favour the latter as I have never liked the concept of the EU and now it's just become a bigger and bigger drain on resources for the wealthy countries.
down the right path, now why don't you extrapolate that idea to its natural conclusion. Why stop at the country level? why not take it to the county/province level or the city level? or the neighborhood level? or the individual level?
No I think that would be inefficient, you need to have some form of centralised control, in Europe that has worked for a long time at the country level until the EU started forcing ancient enemies together, ok I'm over-dramatising a bit but you see what I mean, e.g the Dutch and the Germans who fecking hate each other about as much as the Brits and the French.
Other than forming an economic block to counter China and the US I can see no need for the EU and in any case EFTA can provide that same economic block in a more efficient manner.
I thought forcing ancient enemies together was a lot of the point of the EU? Make the main combatants of Europe economically and politically more integrated and maybe a 3rd world war could be averted. It sounds a little far-fetched now but the memories of WWI & WWII were surely on the architects' minds at the time?
Bad Bob wrote:heimdall wrote:JoeTerp wrote:heimdall wrote:The biggest mistake the EU ever made was letting these shaky (in terms of economy) countries in, it will be the death of it. They either need to boot these countries out or dissolve the whole bloody thing, I favour the latter as I have never liked the concept of the EU and now it's just become a bigger and bigger drain on resources for the wealthy countries.
down the right path, now why don't you extrapolate that idea to its natural conclusion. Why stop at the country level? why not take it to the county/province level or the city level? or the neighborhood level? or the individual level?
No I think that would be inefficient, you need to have some form of centralised control, in Europe that has worked for a long time at the country level until the EU started forcing ancient enemies together, ok I'm over-dramatising a bit but you see what I mean, e.g the Dutch and the Germans who fecking hate each other about as much as the Brits and the French.
Other than forming an economic block to counter China and the US I can see no need for the EU and in any case EFTA can provide that same economic block in a more efficient manner.
I thought forcing ancient enemies together was a lot of the point of the EU? Make the main combatants of Europe economically and politically more integrated and maybe a 3rd world war could be averted. It sounds a little far-fetched now but the memories of WWI & WWII were surely on the architects' minds at the time?
heimdall wrote:Bad Bob wrote:heimdall wrote:JoeTerp wrote:heimdall wrote:The biggest mistake the EU ever made was letting these shaky (in terms of economy) countries in, it will be the death of it. They either need to boot these countries out or dissolve the whole bloody thing, I favour the latter as I have never liked the concept of the EU and now it's just become a bigger and bigger drain on resources for the wealthy countries.
down the right path, now why don't you extrapolate that idea to its natural conclusion. Why stop at the country level? why not take it to the county/province level or the city level? or the neighborhood level? or the individual level?
No I think that would be inefficient, you need to have some form of centralised control, in Europe that has worked for a long time at the country level until the EU started forcing ancient enemies together, ok I'm over-dramatising a bit but you see what I mean, e.g the Dutch and the Germans who fecking hate each other about as much as the Brits and the French.
Other than forming an economic block to counter China and the US I can see no need for the EU and in any case EFTA can provide that same economic block in a more efficient manner.
I thought forcing ancient enemies together was a lot of the point of the EU? Make the main combatants of Europe economically and politically more integrated and maybe a 3rd world war could be averted. It sounds a little far-fetched now but the memories of WWI & WWII were surely on the architects' minds at the time?
Well that might have what they gave as a reason
In reality it's about control, after WW2 I don't think anybody had much stomach for another war and it's not as if Norway and Switzerland are champing at the bit to invade someone is it.
made in UK wrote:Bad Bob wrote:heimdall wrote:JoeTerp wrote:heimdall wrote:The biggest mistake the EU ever made was letting these shaky (in terms of economy) countries in, it will be the death of it. They either need to boot these countries out or dissolve the whole bloody thing, I favour the latter as I have never liked the concept of the EU and now it's just become a bigger and bigger drain on resources for the wealthy countries.
down the right path, now why don't you extrapolate that idea to its natural conclusion. Why stop at the country level? why not take it to the county/province level or the city level? or the neighborhood level? or the individual level?
No I think that would be inefficient, you need to have some form of centralised control, in Europe that has worked for a long time at the country level until the EU started forcing ancient enemies together, ok I'm over-dramatising a bit but you see what I mean, e.g the Dutch and the Germans who fecking hate each other about as much as the Brits and the French.
Other than forming an economic block to counter China and the US I can see no need for the EU and in any case EFTA can provide that same economic block in a more efficient manner.
I thought forcing ancient enemies together was a lot of the point of the EU? Make the main combatants of Europe economically and politically more integrated and maybe a 3rd world war could be averted. It sounds a little far-fetched now but the memories of WWI & WWII were surely on the architects' minds at the time?
Thats wrong the EU was formed as a 'superstate' at the time to rival the stranglehold that America had on the economy.
I'm pretty sure it had feck all to do with averting WWIII and all that old folly. The world has seen that twice and I don't think independent (economically) European countries would dare to go down that route again.
made in UK wrote:I don't think us Brits have ever considered ourselves as European's and I don't think the European's have ever considered us Brits as European's.
JoeTerp wrote:heimdall wrote:The biggest mistake the EU ever made was letting these shaky (in terms of economy) countries in, it will be the death of it. They either need to boot these countries out or dissolve the whole bloody thing, I favour the latter as I have never liked the concept of the EU and now it's just become a bigger and bigger drain on resources for the wealthy countries.
down the right path, now why don't you extrapolate that idea to its natural conclusion. Why stop at the country level? why not take it to the county/province level or the city level? or the neighborhood level? or the individual level?
Bad Bob wrote:heimdall wrote:JoeTerp wrote:heimdall wrote:The biggest mistake the EU ever made was letting these shaky (in terms of economy) countries in, it will be the death of it. They either need to boot these countries out or dissolve the whole bloody thing, I favour the latter as I have never liked the concept of the EU and now it's just become a bigger and bigger drain on resources for the wealthy countries.
down the right path, now why don't you extrapolate that idea to its natural conclusion. Why stop at the country level? why not take it to the county/province level or the city level? or the neighborhood level? or the individual level?
No I think that would be inefficient, you need to have some form of centralised control, in Europe that has worked for a long time at the country level until the EU started forcing ancient enemies together, ok I'm over-dramatising a bit but you see what I mean, e.g the Dutch and the Germans who fecking hate each other about as much as the Brits and the French.
Other than forming an economic block to counter China and the US I can see no need for the EU and in any case EFTA can provide that same economic block in a more efficient manner.
I thought forcing ancient enemies together was a lot of the point of the EU? Make the main combatants of Europe economically and politically more integrated and maybe a 3rd world war could be averted. It sounds a little far-fetched now but the memories of WWI & WWII were surely on the architects' minds at the time?
made in UK wrote:I don't think us Brits have ever considered ourselves as European's and I don't think the European's have ever considered us Brits as European's.
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