Liverpool FC Forum

[stmichael]

Also, 4th, 3rd or 2nd isn't orgasmic at all, however we need Champions League football to bring in more revenue which gives us a larger platform in which to compete with those teams around the top four. If we want to become a successful team again, then we really need to be challenging for the league and the Champions League again, we won't do this by finishing mid-table and winning domestic trophies.

i agree but i think people forget just what a state we were in when kenny came here. it may be just me, but i'm willing to give a manager more tham one full year to take us from a team that was hovering above the relegation zone and getting beaten at home by the likes of northampton to a top 4 side again, regardless of money spent. it's harder than it's ever been now as there is no top 4 as such. it's a top 7-8 and then the rest. man city under hughes/mancini spent £300m and still missed out on the champions league originally. nobody has a divine right to success and that includes us.

this summer is huge though. there has to be an emphasis on quality rather than quantity. last summers signings were brought to stabilise the club. now it's time to push on and make that next step.

[red till i die!!]

you confuse me
you want kenny to remain but think he is clueless and inept.you also think he cant be trusted with any more money and you have little faith in him so why do you think he should remain?.
you either support the man or you dont.

It's difficult for me because Kenny is a legend of this football club, the man has given so much to the club both as a player and as a manager. I want him to be a successful manager here, but given his form this season, I am unsure whether or not that'll be the case. We can give him another season, sure thing, but what happens if we're in a worse position next season? Do we give him another season? Also a huge part me wants Benitez back, I never felt he should have left in 2010 and I have always wanted him back, even when Kenny was appointed as happy as I was, I was saddened to see that Rafa wasn't brought back into the fold.

if he wins the fa cup then that is 2 trophys and a successful year for kenny the club and us fans.sure its not the cl or the prem but its something and given the situation we were in over the last 3 years id say its progression.
if we finish 5th and just lost out to someone else by a narrow margin of say a pt or 2 and lifted the 2 cups would you then think it was a fantastic season?.
whether we finish 5th or 15th isnt the issue for me as we only stand to miss out on qualification for the cl and that was always going to be a big task this season with new management and players finding their feet.
im as frustrated and disapointed as anyone with the league form and results but in fairness if we had of being more prolific in front of goal then our season would be on a completly different path and cl would have been a possibility.we have played some exquisite stuff under kenny and it isnt his fault that some of the players are struggling to adapt to a bigger club and the price tags that came with them.what if we signed hazard last year there would be no gurantees that he would be amazing in his 1st season either.we have a core of players in the club that are good enough and the right balance needs to be found in the summer to compliment them and our results will improve in the league.i think that fsg will be heavilly involved in new aquisitions and if they are going to part with say £30 mil on a player then i would bet its on the calibre of hazard or llorente other than defoe or bent.
this season has been a massive learning curve for kenny and the owners and a wake up call for the players.whether fsg decide kenny isnt the man and replace him then thats fine by me as i support the club but i wouldnt be happy to see some have a go manager like martinez in his place with another 5 yr plan that will end up with him getting the boot after a year or 2.that is a recipe for disaster and will get us nowhere.
i fully support kenny heading into next season and if he doesnt improve things i believe fsg will take action but its important to give him another season as replacing another manager isnt the answer and wont guarantee us the league next year either.
i also rate rafa highly and think he is one of the best managers around and i would love to see him back here working with kenny if that could be possible but i doubt that will happen and i cant see fsg rushing to reappoint him either. in hindsight getting rid of him over one bad season was probably a silly move and imo removing kenny will be the same.
i believe next season will be different and we will be much better team with the lessons learned this year.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

I simply don't trust any Liverpool supporter who believes foolhardily that the best way forward is for Dalglish to walk .
I won't  mention names but certain individuals describing the team as 'they' rather than
we can seriously (and with no need to apply reserve)can go and slip their faithless impatient 
dispassionate Mancunian mouths  firmly over old Taggart's dick and suck it like a journalist .

[RedAnt]

I simply don't trust any Liverpool supporter who believes foolhardily that the best way forward is for Dalglish to walk .
I won't  mention names but certain individuals describing the team as 'they' rather than
we can seriously (and with no need to apply reserve)can go and slip their faithless impatient 
dispassionate Mancunian mouths  firmly over old Taggart's dick and suck it like a journalist .

Hear, hear. There are many of us who are inside the club looking out. Alas, there are also many who claim to be supporters who are happy to sit outside the club and look in.

What's that phrase?

"I'd rather have them inside the tent p*ssing out, than outside the tent p*ssing in"

That for me is the single dividing line between the two "breeds" of supporter we see today. Those that are calling for Kenny's head after one year (a year which saw us winning a trophy with the chance of another to add) are nothing more than glory hunters in my eyes. I won't accuse them of being fake supporters, but if the cap fits, wear it. Look at Chelsea as the most obvious and clichéd example.

How much money have they spent in their quest for CL success?

How manny years have they tried and failed for CL success?

In those years, how many managers have had a year or less to bring that still elusive CL success?

How many players have come into the squad and been moved on in short time?

Answer these questions, people, then look at those answers and ask yourself...is this a policy you would gladly support? If so, there are teams out there who adopt such policies and i'm sure they'd be happy to take your ticket money.

[heimdall]

I simply don't trust any Liverpool supporter who believes foolhardily that the best way forward is for Dalglish to walk .
I won't  mention names but certain individuals describing the team as 'they' rather than
we can seriously (and with no need to apply reserve)can go and slip their faithless impatient 
dispassionate Mancunian mouths  firmly over old Taggart's dick and suck it like a journalist .

Hear, hear. There are many of us who are inside the club looking out. Alas, there are also many who claim to be supporters who are happy to sit outside the club and look in.

What's that phrase?

"I'd rather have them inside the tent p*ssing out, than outside the tent p*ssing in"

That for me is the single dividing line between the two "breeds" of supporter we see today. Those that are calling for Kenny's head after one year (a year which saw us winning a trophy with the chance of another to add) are nothing more than glory hunters in my eyes. I won't accuse them of being fake supporters, but if the cap fits, wear it. Look at Chelsea as the most obvious and clichéd example.

How much money have they spent in their quest for CL success?

How manny years have they tried and failed for CL success?

In those years, how many managers have had a year or less to bring that still elusive CL success?

How many players have come into the squad and been moved on in short time?

Answer these questions, people, then look at those answers and ask yourself...is this a policy you would gladly support? If so, there are teams out there who adopt such policies and i'm sure they'd be happy to take your ticket money.

So you're in the club are you, how was training today then,or perhaps you're more on the admin side, in which case what is the mood of our owners? No the truth is that you have nothing to do with the club apart form dutifully handing over your money at match day and you are certainly not a better fan just because you stubbornly stick by a manager who is massively underperforming.

[Thommo's perm]

I simply don't trust any Liverpool supporter who believes foolhardily that the best way forward is for Dalglish to walk .
I won't  mention names but certain individuals describing the team as 'they' rather than
we can seriously (and with no need to apply reserve)can go and slip their faithless impatient 
dispassionate Mancunian mouths  firmly over old Taggart's dick and suck it like a journalist .

Hear, hear. There are many of us who are inside the club looking out. Alas, there are also many who claim to be supporters who are happy to sit outside the club and look in.

What's that phrase?

"I'd rather have them inside the tent p*ssing out, than outside the tent p*ssing in"

That for me is the single dividing line between the two "breeds" of supporter we see today. Those that are calling for Kenny's head after one year (a year which saw us winning a trophy with the chance of another to add) are nothing more than glory hunters in my eyes. I won't accuse them of being fake supporters, but if the cap fits, wear it. Look at Chelsea as the most obvious and clichéd example.

How much money have they spent in their quest for CL success?

How manny years have they tried and failed for CL success?

In those years, how many managers have had a year or less to bring that still elusive CL success?

How many players have come into the squad and been moved on in short time?

Answer these questions, people, then look at those answers and ask yourself...is this a policy you would gladly support? If so, there are teams out there who adopt such policies and i'm sure they'd be happy to take your ticket money.

So you're in the club are you, how was training today then,or perhaps you're more on the admin side, in which case what is the mood of our owners? No the truth is that you have nothing to do with the club apart form dutifully handing over your money at match day and you are certainly not a better fan just because you stubbornly stick by a manager who is massively underperforming.

Seriously
Who would you get in as manager who would guarantee us CL football next season?

[heimdall]

No guarantee's Thommo, but I'd love to get a hungry young manager in, anyone of the managers from Wigan, Norwich or Swansea would be worth an interview. And we should have gotten 4th this season because surely we should have been able to do better than Newcastle

[Doc Lashed]

I watched a documentary yesterday on LFC TV about Shankly’s first few seasons at Liverpool.
He joined half way through a season. Missed promotion from the second the next year and then took us up the following year.
When he missed promotion after his first full season there were letters in the local press from fans calling for him to leave.

Keep the faith with Kenny. He deserves another season.

[LittleHobo]

if he recorrects his mistakes in the summer i think he should stay

he must now see that english grit doesnt do the job these days, you need the cheaper better technique type foreign options (as newcastle have proved........tiote, cabaye, ben arfa, cisse, ba)

[Thommo's perm]

No guarantee's Thommo, but I'd love to get a hungry young manager in, anyone of the managers from Wigan, Norwich or Swansea would be worth an interview. And we should have gotten 4th this season because surely we should have been able to do better than Newcastle

Wigan, Norwich, Swansea
I rest my case...

[heimdall]

No guarantee's Thommo, but I'd love to get a hungry young manager in, anyone of the managers from Wigan, Norwich or Swansea would be worth an interview. And we should have gotten 4th this season because surely we should have been able to do better than Newcastle

Wigan, Norwich, Swansea
I rest my case...

which case would that be then? i think most people agree that the managers of these three clubs have done a fantastic job with next to zero resources, i.e by using their skill and guile as managers and not p1ssing away money like Kenny has.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

No guarantee's Thommo, but I'd love to get a hungry young manager in, anyone of the managers from Wigan, Norwich or Swansea would be worth an interview. And we should have gotten 4th this season because surely we should have been able to do better than Newcastle

Wigan, Norwich, Swansea
I rest my case...

which case would that be then? i think most people agree that the managers of these three clubs have done a fantastic job with next to zero resources, i.e by using their skill and guile as managers and not p1ssing away money like Kenny has.

managing a big club is a lot different to managing a wigan or norwich.
some managers are just the current flavour of the month, look at pardew, okay he took west ham to the f.a cup final but he was also sacked after west ham went through their worst run of results in 70 years, he then went to charlton, under him they were relegated and the following season when they were big favourites to get back into the prem they finished halfway down the league, the season after that he only just avoided being relegated to the third tier of english footy. that was with a team who had spent big money by the standards of that division and a team many regarded as favourites to win the title.

[Thommo's perm]

No guarantee's Thommo, but I'd love to get a hungry young manager in, anyone of the managers from Wigan, Norwich or Swansea would be worth an interview. And we should have gotten 4th this season because surely we should have been able to do better than Newcastle

Wigan, Norwich, Swansea
I rest my case...

which case would that be then? i think most people agree that the managers of these three clubs have done a fantastic job with next to zero resources, i.e by using their skill and guile as managers and not p1ssing away money like Kenny has.

The case that youre as stupid as youre making out.
Youre talking about 3 clubs with ZERO expectations from fans who have watched them win FU'CK ALL since theyve existed
You really cant see how youre making a tit of yourself?

[RedAnt]

I simply don't trust any Liverpool supporter who believes foolhardily that the best way forward is for Dalglish to walk .
I won't  mention names but certain individuals describing the team as 'they' rather than
we can seriously (and with no need to apply reserve)can go and slip their faithless impatient 
dispassionate Mancunian mouths  firmly over old Taggart's dick and suck it like a journalist .

Hear, hear. There are many of us who are inside the club looking out. Alas, there are also many who claim to be supporters who are happy to sit outside the club and look in.

What's that phrase?

"I'd rather have them inside the tent p*ssing out, than outside the tent p*ssing in"

That for me is the single dividing line between the two "breeds" of supporter we see today. Those that are calling for Kenny's head after one year (a year which saw us winning a trophy with the chance of another to add) are nothing more than glory hunters in my eyes. I won't accuse them of being fake supporters, but if the cap fits, wear it. Look at Chelsea as the most obvious and clichéd example.

How much money have they spent in their quest for CL success?

How manny years have they tried and failed for CL success?

In those years, how many managers have had a year or less to bring that still elusive CL success?

How many players have come into the squad and been moved on in short time?

Answer these questions, people, then look at those answers and ask yourself...is this a policy you would gladly support? If so, there are teams out there who adopt such policies and i'm sure they'd be happy to take your ticket money.

So you're in the club are you, how was training today then,or perhaps you're more on the admin side, in which case what is the mood of our owners? No the truth is that you have nothing to do with the club apart form dutifully handing over your money at match day and you are certainly not a better fan just because you stubbornly stick by a manager who is massively underperforming.

Training was good, thanks.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Training was good, thanks.