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Postby Octsky » Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:33 am

i know this forum has gone to the dogs when people want Rafa back.
Evans to a certain extend promote youth, play attacking football but lost it with indiscipline in "spice boys era",
and sign rubbish defenders.

but Rafa??, one joker (Heimdall) think it is good idea.
i will tell you why it is not a good idea, it is not even an idea at all.

1)we pay Rafa 3mil to leave when we were near bankrupt. He took the money even though the Inter job was already lineup for him.
2)Inter after 6 mths paid Rafa 3-6m to sack him.
and you still want Rafa back?? when did we start growing money on trees?

i felt for Kenny, really.
he put his trust in the wrong person.
he defended Suarez, he got blasted by the media, his colleagues and the FA.
we didnt get any decisions from the ref, we gotten soft penalties against us etc.

he defended Carroll, the bugger decided to dive/ trip on himself after he rounded the Newcastle keeper.
then he got verbally abused by Carroll, and section of the fans for not getting results.

it is time to cut loss of Carroll and get a good striker.
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Postby Kukilon » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:42 am

Yes he should leave by himself. I would give Rafa another chance with 100 million to play with.
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Postby BKrimmel » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:00 am

Friday was  a great day for me: LFC confirmed they are coming to my hometown of Baltimore for a friendly vs. Spurs. Sunday: I woke in a bed that wasn't my own (day is off to a fantastic start). Then we have that atrocious first half. And an even worse second. April Fools on me, LFC sucked.

Another poor performance merits more talks about Kenny's future and the future of the players. As in who will be on the pitch at M&T Bank Stadium in July and who will be managing from the touchline. Will my brother be wearing a Luis Suarez Kit with Luis already sold? Will it be awkward if we sing Anfield Road after Kenny has been sacked?

The team does not have a single person in form. There is no answer anywhere. So are we gonna spend a ***** load of money? Is it available? Downing, Adam are both gone? They have been about as successful as Milan Jovanovic (yeah remember that? he was awful) and Christian Poulsen (that was painful to type) and Joe Cole. So a signing that would work would be awesome.

Kenny, Kenny, Kenny. I think we need a tactician. Feels like he has been out-coached and his message to the players has gone stale. I say that because they play with zero heart. The QPR loss was atrocious. A give away of 3 points. Team folded up shop and gave up. Sacking him would be awful, I think he needs to fall on his sword at the end of the season. But an FA Cup win (in combination with the Carling Cup) does he deserve to stay?

This is a huge LFC conundrum.
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Postby banana(real one) » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:01 am

Octsky » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:33 am wrote:i know this forum has gone to the dogs when people want Rafa back.
Evans to a certain extend promote youth, play attacking football but lost it with indiscipline in "spice boys era",
and sign rubbish defenders.

but Rafa??, one joker (Heimdall) think it is good idea.
i will tell you why it is not a good idea, it is not even an idea at all.

1)we pay Rafa 3mil to leave when we were near bankrupt. He took the money even though the Inter job was already lineup for him.
2)Inter after 6 mths paid Rafa 3-6m to sack him.
and you still want Rafa back?? when did we start growing money on trees?

i felt for Kenny, really.
he put his trust in the wrong person.
he defended Suarez, he got blasted by the media, his colleagues and the FA.
we didnt get any decisions from the ref, we gotten soft penalties against us etc.

he defended Carroll, the bugger decided to dive/ trip on himself after he rounded the Newcastle keeper.
then he got verbally abused by Carroll, and section of the fans for not getting results.

it is time to cut loss of Carroll and get a good striker.



The one thing I am fed up with is all the apparent lies being spread all over the place about the club and Benitez and how bad a manager he was. This is the biggest most shocking lie I know in club history. It is like a ghost noone has ever seen because all the numbers tell quite a different story.

Being truthful should not be voluntary. It should be mandatory. Lies and deceit must not work. The numbers are there to be seen and the truth will catch up with you in the end.

1. Rafa did not take the full pay when sacked - a lot was surrendered and a lot donated to charity. Even so what difference does this make? What are you trying to say?
2. At Inter he inherited a defensive team full of 33+ year old players way over the top. He told the board that the team needed investment or it was destined to fail and that he could not win anything with the players available. The board refused to give him money and decided to let him go instead. Was Benitez right? Well Inter has won 13 and lost 12 this season and is 20 points off the pace. Rafa won 12 and lost 7 during his time at Inter. After Benitez was sacked Inter improved short term reverting back to Mourinhos style of play dropping deeper and playing tight defensive football. Rafa tried to transform Inter to a quick, fluid attacking side with high tempo high defensive line but could not do that with the old boys he had available and without investment.
3. I guess what really is the case is that Banitez was a winner and really demanding. He did not let Gerrard or any other dictate him. Gerrard was never allowed to play in his preferred position and Carra was not going to get contract renewal. So they and british misfits in general like D Murphy and the like launched continious attacks on the "spanish waiter" and they wanted a british style and a british manager and an end to the spanish influence. They got it and so came Roy with his Koncheskys and Brad Jones and later Kenny with his Adams and Carrolls. And Carras wife was once more happy since she could dine and speak with the other wives and Gerrard was allowed to play central midfield and british we bacame once more. Perhaps a little too british? So the days of Champions League football and quality is now gone, the mutiny, on the back of a big financial meltdown was successful, and the end product was also exactly as was to be expected.
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Postby Reg » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:07 am

I love intelligent answers, well done mate.  Can you teach Kenny Kan?
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Postby Kenny Kan » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:27 am

Reg » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:07 am wrote:I love intelligent answers, well done mate.  Can you teach Kenny Kan?


Sorry Reg, I don't specialise in remedial lessons.  :laugh: 

well the season he scored 5 in the league he didnt even create 1 single half chance for keegan never mind a goal, mainly due to the fact that keegan was at scunthorpe that season.
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Postby Reg » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:33 am

You're a stalker you are...  :laugh:  haven't you got any work to do?  ???
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Postby NANNY RED » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:35 am

No an thats a big no Kenny should not leave , but some of the backroom staff need to ,

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Postby supersub » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:41 am

good morning nanny,
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Postby NANNY RED » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:45 am

Still reeling from yesterday they were high fiving in my house aots
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Postby NANNY RED » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:53 am

7_Kewell » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:10 pm wrote:if Kenny's lost the dressing room then he might as well pack it in now.


If Kenny had lost the dressing room then were in serious trouble , if you cant get motivated for Kenny then theres not a manager out there who could help us ,
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Postby supersub » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:56 am

just pick yourself up, dust yourself down and keep the faith..YNWA
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Postby Kenny Kan » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:04 am

Reg » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:33 am wrote:You're a stalker you are...  :laugh:  haven't you got any work to do?  ???



You asked me a question you plank.  :laugh:
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Postby Reg » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:13 am

Kenny Kan » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:04 pm wrote:
Reg » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:33 am wrote:You're a stalker you are...  :laugh:  haven't you got any work to do?  ???



You asked me a question you plank.  :laugh:


Tell you what mate, "Should Kenny go?" in your case I'll make an exception and defo say YES !  :laugh:  :laugh:

Hiya Nan, not much bouncin' goin' on in here today.....
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Postby Woollyback » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:29 am

stop the world, i want to get off

i don't think kenny should be sacked. our recent form has been absolute cack (obviously). but think about how many games earlier in the season where we played really well and pummelled the opposition only to be denied by goalkeeping heroics and the woodwork - with a tiny bit more lady luck on our side we'd have another 10 points in the bag and maybe knocking on the door of top 4

i don't think the question is should kenny get sacked, it's will kenny leave of his own accord? the players need to grow some balls and accept that our schite form is as much their fault as it is kenny's. one thing is for certain though - andy carroll is an oxygen thief and should be sold as soon as possible to any side daft enoughto pay his wages, what a complete feckin disater of a signing he's been
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