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Postby metalhead » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:25 pm

neil wrote:
metalhead wrote:Puyol is twice the player Agger is and carries the ball better than Agger does.

with all due respect, thats me ar5e.

Watch Puyol with Barcelona.

I agree with BB too, Carvalho is better than Agger.

Look, Agger is an excellent player, but he isn't a Top Class player, he has so many faults that some can't see!

Carvalho, Puyol, Ferdinand, Gallas, Toure are all better than him
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:28 pm

metalhead wrote:
neil wrote:
metalhead wrote:Puyol is twice the player Agger is and carries the ball better than Agger does.

with all due respect, thats me ar5e.

Watch Puyol with Barcelona.

I agree with BB too, Carvalho is better than Agger.

Look, Agger is an excellent player, but he isn't a Top Class player, he has so many faults that some can't see!

Carvalho, Puyol, Ferdinand, Gallas, Toure are all better than him

But by the same token, aren't all of them considerably older, too?
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Postby metalhead » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:35 pm

True mate, Im just responding to the question about who carries the ball better than Agger in the world.

I suggested Puyol. :)
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Postby HacksawJimDuggin » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:42 pm

Agger has the potential to be one of the top defenders in the world. At the moment he is a very good defender playing with some very good players round about him.

I do not see the sense in selling him. He has settled at LFC, is putting in some very good performances and shows the kind of leadership qualities that could one day make him an LFC captain. I rate Agger very highly!
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Postby account deleted by request » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:58 pm

Considering that last season it was widely touted that the injury to Agger was one of the reasons we never made a title challenge , I am a little surprised to see that his "stock" has dropped so low so fast.

I think he is a very good player who perhaps needs a Hyypia beside him rather than a Carra. While not physically as strong or dominant in the air as I would like, he reads the game well enough, tackles well, and carries the ball very well. Yes there are better players, but we couldn't afford them or they are getting on in years.
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Postby HacksawJimDuggin » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:35 pm

s@int wrote:Considering that last season it was widely touted that the injury to Agger was one of the reasons we never made a title challenge , I am a little surprised to see that his "stock" has dropped so low so fast.

I think he is a very good player who perhaps needs a Hyypia beside him rather than a Carra. While not physically as strong or dominant in the air as I would like, he reads the game well enough, tackles well, and carries the ball very well. Yes there are better players, but we couldn't afford them or they are getting on in years.

Someone else with sense on here.

Maybe it's just because I am a CB myself but I see Agger as a class player. He knows that if he stays at LFC he will learn off some of the best in the (English) game in Carra and Sami

Oh and not forgetting Pelligrino  :blush:
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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:06 pm

metalhead wrote:
neil wrote:
metalhead wrote:Puyol is twice the player Agger is and carries the ball better than Agger does.

with all due respect, thats me ar5e.

Watch Puyol with Barcelona.

I agree with BB too, Carvalho is better than Agger.

Look, Agger is an excellent player, but he isn't a Top Class player, he has so many faults that some can't see!

Carvalho, Puyol, Ferdinand, Gallas, Toure are all better than him

im not sure so about this. isnt Agger a bigger threat to the opposition as he attacks and pushes forward more? ive always found Puyol to be abit hasty in certain scenarios while Agger seems calm.

from 1996 till now Puyol has scored just 10 goals while making 501 appearances. Agger meanwhile has 10 goals in 117 appearances from 2004 till now. and then consider how young Agger is. Carra and Hyppia are getting old and neither has pace. and players in his position mature as they get older dont they?
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Postby Pig Catcher » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:12 pm

Portsmouth defender Glen Johnson, who has been linked with Tottenham, is set to sign a new contract with the south-coast side. (Portsmouth News - 1156 GMT)

AC Milan are preparing a £8m offer for Liverpool defender Daniel Agger. (Gazzetta dello Sport - 0813 GMT)

Arsenal could lose forward Theo Walcott on the cheap after dragging their feet over a new contract. (Daily Express)


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Postby tubby » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:33 pm

Yeah that was on Guillem Ballages site also. Aside from that Agger has apparantly rejected a contract last week for around 75k a week. Regarding Agger they also said he had a 7mil clause in his contract. Thats pants if its true.
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Postby centarec » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:15 am

Come on agger mate 75 k a week not enough? Take the 75 k now and at the of the season maybe negotiate for more, dont be a dumbarse . I really hope he stays :(  . And to Ac Milan fek off , 8 milion isnt enough , give 14  :D
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Postby neil » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:21 am

if agger does go it will not be a money or footy issue.
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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:27 am

Manchester United striker Carlos Tevez has risked the wrath of Sir Alex Ferguson by reacting to the manager's comments regarding his contract situation.

Tevez has spent a lot of time on the bench
Tevez, 24, has revealed his disappointment at speculation that he had rejected a new offer from the Premier League champions, and reiterated his desire for his future to be sorted.

''I didn't like him (Ferguson) saying I didn't like the offer I was made because neither my agent nor me were given one,'' the Argentina international, whose deal runs out in the summer, told Radio del Plata.

''I don't know anything on my future. United know what they must pay if they want me to stay.

''I want to stay but the club have not made any offer. I've been waiting for them for a year and a half.

The ongoing saga has prompted reports that Tevez, who joined United from West Ham in 2007, is a target of Real Madrid, and the forward added: ''If I have to quit the club, I want to quit on good terms.''

''Now all clubs are on an equal footing. If a club comes to me and offers me a five-year deal, I will accept it for peace of mind.

''I will sign my last contract, and then I figure that I'll go back to Boca (Juniors.) That could be in four or five years.''

''I want everybody to know no offer has been made. I don't like that they are playing with our fans, who show their love to me in each match.''


Tevez anyone? :D i like this guy. anyone who speaks out against Fergie is pretty awesome.
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Postby NANNY RED » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:17 am

Defoe having a medical at spurs
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Postby Toffeehater » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:42 am

john craig wrote:
maguskwt wrote:
john craig wrote:
metalhead wrote:
john craig wrote:If you ask me Agger is a bit overrated by most LFC fans.  He is a pretty good player, but not top class, and also quite injury prone on top of that, which is certainly not good for a central defender - a position where you need stability and consistency.

He is the weakest of our 4 centre halves all round imo and that has shown in his form this season.  He has been unimpressive in several games this season.  Skrtel will be first choice when fully fit.  If he wants to leave then let him, although I wouldn't mind seeing what he's like at left back - that would probably be his best bet long term as a first choice pick if he could adapt well.

Spot on John, he is a very good player indeed, but has his limitations. However, I wouldn't sell him for 8m, a bit more.

I'd go along with that.  I wouldn't sell him for 8 million.

For the record I'd ideally like us to keep him, but if so he needs to either be content to spend a reasonable time on the bench, or else step his game up.  He can start by being less casual.

what kind of mistakes has he made this season? He was playing very very well with carragher in the season before he got injured... I don't see any real weakness in him. Would've liked him to be stronger in the air but that's about it. He is a far better CB than carragher was at that age... would keep him... 8 million a ridiculously peanuts for a class CB... remember Terry was nothing at that age... Agger is somewhat like Ferdinand, but ferdinand is actually a poser when it comes attacking with the ball, Agger is really a threat when he storms foward.

That's rubbish to be honest mate.

Terry nothing at that age?  Why were we trying to buy him off Chelsea before he ever broke into their side then?  They wouldn't let him go because they knew they had a gem on their hands to take over from Desailly when he moved on.  Don't try and re-write history, John Terry didn't come from nowhere, much like talents like Owen, Gerrard, Joe Cole - people knew about them years before they played their first senior game.

What mistakes has Agger made this season?  What about giving the ball to Zaki to score at Anfield.  Usually though it's giving free kicks away in dangerous areas because he can't keep his hands off opponents' shirts.  I'm not saying the lad's a bad player, he's pretty good, but don't make him out to be something he's not.  If you 'can't see any real weaknesses in him' as you say then that would make him the best centre half of all time would it not?  Which he clearly isn't.

The Same terry who's been carried by carvalho at club level and ferdinand at international level ? Terry is a good defender not world class , he's made to look good and massively overrated by chelsea fans . He's got zero tackling ability . Terry wears his heart on sleeve like gerrard and carragher but by no means that makes him a world class defender .
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Postby Toffeehater » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:43 am

NANNY RED wrote:Defoe having a medical at spurs

Whats the price at ?



Just read that Ac milan are interested in pennant any truth in that ?
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