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by **aCe'** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:04 pm

mmm... about agger and technical ability.. talking about centerbacks...

in the english league... best around : ferdinand.... others who are also better than agger imo.. Alex(chelsea), Carvalho (chelsea), Toure (arsenal)

outside the english league: quitw a few.. Chivu, Mexes, MARQUES, sergio ramos(when played there), puyol, Kaladze...etc

hes excellent when it comes to running at spaces and has a good shot on him but cant really say hes better than any of the above technically or would be more of a danger than any of the above in or around the box with the ball at his feet and with no space for a blast at goal...

by **redmikey** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:57 pm

we need his contract sorting asap

by **Toffeehater** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:54 pm

Tevez has performed whenever he has been asked to . I would take him in a heart beat , he's a cracking player but deffo 32 million is not worth it . If manure don't sign him , i'm sure his price will drop to below 20 million and that would be a good price for him . Whether rafa wants to go for it is another thing , my first choice would deffo be owen

by **HacksawJimDuggin** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:17 pm

aCe' wrote:mmm... about agger and technical ability.. talking about centerbacks...

in the english league... best around : ferdinand.... others who are also better than agger imo.. Alex(chelsea), Carvalho (chelsea), Toure (arsenal)

outside the english league: quitw a few.. Chivu, Mexes, MARQUES, sergio ramos(when played there), puyol, Kaladze...etc

hes excellent when it comes to running at spaces and has a good shot on him but cant really say hes better than any of the above technically or would be more of a danger than any of the above in or around the box with the ball at his feet and with no space for a blast at goal...

Hmmm

Alex is rubbish, Carvalho is OK (when he's fit) and Toure isn't strong enough in the air.

Agger is better than all 3 IMO and is younger which is why we need to sign him up quickly.

by **Ace Ventura** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:29 pm

Oh no !
Agger better than Carvalho ? Thats obscene, no matter how much you rate Agger, Carvalho is Chelsea's best defender, covers John Terry all the time.

Anyway - why are we all talking about this in the rumour mill

by **johnymarcu** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:14 pm

Agger better than Carvalho? are you kidding? :laugh:

I must have a different vision of this game

by **aCe'** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:15 am

HacksawJimDuggin wrote:
aCe' wrote:mmm... about agger and technical ability.. talking about centerbacks...

in the english league... best around : ferdinand.... others who are also better than agger imo.. Alex(chelsea), Carvalho (chelsea), Toure (arsenal)

outside the english league: quitw a few.. Chivu, Mexes, MARQUES, sergio ramos(when played there), puyol, Kaladze...etc

hes excellent when it comes to running at spaces and has a good shot on him but cant really say hes better than any of the above technically or would be more of a danger than any of the above in or around the box with the ball at his feet and with no space for a blast at goal...

Hmmm

Alex is rubbish, Carvalho is OK (when he's fit) and Toure isn't strong enough in the air.

Agger is better than all 3 IMO and is younger which is why we need to sign him up quickly.

haha.. alright fairr enough.. guess that makes agger the best centerback in the world then eh ?!

Better than Cavalho ? give me a break ! Carvalho is better than Terry and to me is up there with Ferdinand, Vidic, Puyol and the likes...

fck that... tell ya what.. theres atleast 10 centerbacks in the english league i'd take before Agger and thats saying something.. he isnt ready yet imo... his awareness and positioning leave alot to be desired.. Hyypia, Carragher, Skrtel... all 3 are better than he is defensively imo..

going forward he has a sweet left foot on him and is brave enough to run through the middle once in a while... besides that he doesnt yet have much going for him...

if we can sell him for decent money and get someone better than him then i wouldnt mind one bit.. he has the potential to turn into something really good i wont argue that but for now hes just another good defender playing for a side with a really good defensive setup.

by **HacksawJimDuggin** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:03 pm

aCe' wrote:
HacksawJimDuggin wrote:
aCe' wrote:mmm... about agger and technical ability.. talking about centerbacks...

in the english league... best around : ferdinand.... others who are also better than agger imo.. Alex(chelsea), Carvalho (chelsea), Toure (arsenal)

outside the english league: quitw a few.. Chivu, Mexes, MARQUES, sergio ramos(when played there), puyol, Kaladze...etc

hes excellent when it comes to running at spaces and has a good shot on him but cant really say hes better than any of the above technically or would be more of a danger than any of the above in or around the box with the ball at his feet and with no space for a blast at goal...

Hmmm

Alex is rubbish, Carvalho is OK (when he's fit) and Toure isn't strong enough in the air.

Agger is better than all 3 IMO and is younger which is why we need to sign him up quickly.

haha.. alright fairr enough.. guess that makes agger the best centerback in the world then eh ?!

Better than Cavalho ? give me a break ! Carvalho is better than Terry and to me is up there with Ferdinand, Vidic, Puyol and the likes...

fck that... tell ya what.. theres atleast 10 centerbacks in the english league i'd take before Agger and thats saying something.. he isnt ready yet imo... his awareness and positioning leave alot to be desired.. Hyypia, Carragher, Skrtel... all 3 are better than he is defensively imo..

going forward he has a sweet left foot on him and is brave enough to run through the middle once in a while... besides that he doesnt yet have much going for him...

if we can sell him for decent money and get someone better than him then i wouldnt mind one bit.. he has the potential to turn into something really good i wont argue that but for now hes just another good defender playing for a side with a really good defensive setup.

I didn't say best CB in world did I??

I really rate Agger. He has the potential to be a huge player for us in the coming years.

by **Bad Bob** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:49 pm

Ace Ventura wrote:Anyway - why are we all talking about this in the rumour mill

In part because there seems to be feck all else to talk about. Are we even looking at any players at the moment, let alone close to signing anyone? All I read about in relation to us is Pennant to Milan (which I still cannot get my head around...he must have made quite an impression in Athens).

by **Ace Ventura** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:01 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:Anyway - why are we all talking about this in the rumour mill

In part because there seems to be feck all else to talk about. Are we even looking at any players at the moment, let alone close to signing anyone? All I read about in relation to us is Pennant to Milan (which I still cannot get my head around...he must have made quite an impression in Athens).

I know Bob, its not great at the moment by the looks of things because i defo think we need another striker.
Even if Torres stays fit another option is needed.

I asked the question as i keep checking the last person to post in the rumour mill to see if any activity, then come in here and see a debate on which centre halves are better ball carries etc ?

Lets all hope Rafa springs a nice surprise for us, but am not holding my breath.

by **stmichael** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:48 pm

The Glen Johnson rumours have gone quiet all of a sudden. I like the guy but he's a lot better going forward than he is defensively which is a concern.

We could do with cover at right back though. I don't like Carra in that position even though he'll never let anybody down.

by **Ace Ventura** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:56 pm

stmichael wrote:The Glen Johnson rumours have gone quiet all of a sudden. I like the guy but he's a lot better going forward than he is defensively which is a concern.

We could do with cover at right back though. I don't like Carra in that position even though he'll never let anybody down.

Would really like Johnson, think he is a very good player and has improved a great deal from his Chelsea days.
But with Portsmouth selling Diarra and Defoe already they are unlikely to sell again now.

by **Redman in wales** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:47 pm

Johnson's just signed a new contract at Portsmouth so definately wont be coming here now....

by **sworth26** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:33 pm

Redman in wales wrote:Johnson's just signed a new contract at Portsmouth so definately wont be coming here now....

really gutted about that one... I think he would have been a class signing

by **stmichael** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:35 pm

Redman in wales wrote:Johnson's just signed a new contract at Portsmouth so he'll definately be leaving now....

edited for accuracy

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