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by **JC_81** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:55 pm

If you ask me Agger is a bit overrated by most LFC fans. He is a pretty good player, but not top class, and also quite injury prone on top of that, which is certainly not good for a central defender - a position where you need stability and consistency.

He is the weakest of our 4 centre halves all round imo and that has shown in his form this season. He has been unimpressive in several games this season. Skrtel will be first choice when fully fit. If he wants to leave then let him, although I wouldn't mind seeing what he's like at left back - that would probably be his best bet long term as a first choice pick if he could adapt well.

by **metalhead** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:39 pm

john craig wrote:If you ask me Agger is a bit overrated by most LFC fans. He is a pretty good player, but not top class, and also quite injury prone on top of that, which is certainly not good for a central defender - a position where you need stability and consistency.

He is the weakest of our 4 centre halves all round imo and that has shown in his form this season. He has been unimpressive in several games this season. Skrtel will be first choice when fully fit. If he wants to leave then let him, although I wouldn't mind seeing what he's like at left back - that would probably be his best bet long term as a first choice pick if he could adapt well.

Spot on John, he is a very good player indeed, but has his limitations. However, I wouldn't sell him for 8m, a bit more.

by **red_indian** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:56 pm

not sure i can believe what i am reading here about Dan Agger - he is still young and so does not need to be world class right now. Also, to win the league he may not need to be world class but just ok, champ lge little different but on the whole he is a steady and dependable CB more than enough to get us through the majority of games. How bad can he be if AC and RM are supposedly interested. Lets face it there are a lot of teams in need of a decent CB and so we should not underestimate what we have in Agger, a ball playing CB who also offers a goal threat - other than Sami when was the last time a CB scored for us while playing as CB not full back??? in the absence of being able to unearth another skrtel for cheap-ish money there is absolutely no way we should view Agger as being sub par - its not easy to find a decent CB, ask Real Madrid or Arsenal!

by **JC_81** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:18 pm

metalhead wrote:
john craig wrote:If you ask me Agger is a bit overrated by most LFC fans. He is a pretty good player, but not top class, and also quite injury prone on top of that, which is certainly not good for a central defender - a position where you need stability and consistency.

He is the weakest of our 4 centre halves all round imo and that has shown in his form this season. He has been unimpressive in several games this season. Skrtel will be first choice when fully fit. If he wants to leave then let him, although I wouldn't mind seeing what he's like at left back - that would probably be his best bet long term as a first choice pick if he could adapt well.

Spot on John, he is a very good player indeed, but has his limitations. However, I wouldn't sell him for 8m, a bit more.

I'd go along with that. I wouldn't sell him for 8 million.

For the record I'd ideally like us to keep him, but if so he needs to either be content to spend a reasonable time on the bench, or else step his game up. He can start by being less casual.

by **Number 9** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:35 pm

wrong thread! :blush:

by **Toffeehater** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:11 pm

red_indian wrote:not sure i can believe what i am reading here about Dan Agger - he is still young and so does not need to be world class right now. Also, to win the league he may not need to be world class but just ok, champ lge little different but on the whole he is a steady and dependable CB more than enough to get us through the majority of games. How bad can he be if AC and RM are supposedly interested. Lets face it there are a lot of teams in need of a decent CB and so we should not underestimate what we have in Agger, a ball playing CB who also offers a goal threat - other than Sami when was the last time a CB scored for us while playing as CB not full back??? in the absence of being able to unearth another skrtel for cheap-ish money there is absolutely no way we should view Agger as being sub par - its not easy to find a decent CB, ask Real Madrid or Arsenal!

top post , fully agree with this . Hypia is going to retire soon and carragher is ageing , skrtel and agger will be our first choice center pairing soon

by **maguskwt** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:40 pm

john craig wrote:
metalhead wrote:
john craig wrote:If you ask me Agger is a bit overrated by most LFC fans. He is a pretty good player, but not top class, and also quite injury prone on top of that, which is certainly not good for a central defender - a position where you need stability and consistency.

He is the weakest of our 4 centre halves all round imo and that has shown in his form this season. He has been unimpressive in several games this season. Skrtel will be first choice when fully fit. If he wants to leave then let him, although I wouldn't mind seeing what he's like at left back - that would probably be his best bet long term as a first choice pick if he could adapt well.

Spot on John, he is a very good player indeed, but has his limitations. However, I wouldn't sell him for 8m, a bit more.

I'd go along with that. I wouldn't sell him for 8 million.

For the record I'd ideally like us to keep him, but if so he needs to either be content to spend a reasonable time on the bench, or else step his game up. He can start by being less casual.

what kind of mistakes has he made this season? He was playing very very well with carragher in the season before he got injured... I don't see any real weakness in him. Would've liked him to be stronger in the air but that's about it. He is a far better CB than carragher was at that age... would keep him... 8 million a ridiculously peanuts for a class CB... remember Terry was nothing at that age... Agger is somewhat like Ferdinand, but ferdinand is actually a poser when it comes attacking with the ball, Agger is really a threat when he storms foward.

by **neil** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:04 pm

agger is gonna be partnered by Skertel at cb for years to come, dont worry about that, Carragher has already been shifted out to right back in preparation for Skertel return imo.

by **HacksawJimDuggin** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:11 pm

Sami wont be giving up his place any time soon by the look of things. He's been superb.

We need 4 CB's if we are to compete in all competitions this season. IMO Agger has been excellent of late and cannot be dropped let alone sold in January.

by **DanAn** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:33 pm

Rumors of us putting in a 12 million pound bid for Downing have started (seems unlikely). Still I'd take him. He might not be in the starting 11 but I think he would get reasonable game time rotating with Riera. Certainly Babel would be out in the cold though.

by **JC_81** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:43 pm

maguskwt wrote:
john craig wrote:
metalhead wrote:
john craig wrote:If you ask me Agger is a bit overrated by most LFC fans. He is a pretty good player, but not top class, and also quite injury prone on top of that, which is certainly not good for a central defender - a position where you need stability and consistency.

He is the weakest of our 4 centre halves all round imo and that has shown in his form this season. He has been unimpressive in several games this season. Skrtel will be first choice when fully fit. If he wants to leave then let him, although I wouldn't mind seeing what he's like at left back - that would probably be his best bet long term as a first choice pick if he could adapt well.

Spot on John, he is a very good player indeed, but has his limitations. However, I wouldn't sell him for 8m, a bit more.

I'd go along with that. I wouldn't sell him for 8 million.

For the record I'd ideally like us to keep him, but if so he needs to either be content to spend a reasonable time on the bench, or else step his game up. He can start by being less casual.

what kind of mistakes has he made this season? He was playing very very well with carragher in the season before he got injured... I don't see any real weakness in him. Would've liked him to be stronger in the air but that's about it. He is a far better CB than carragher was at that age... would keep him... 8 million a ridiculously peanuts for a class CB... remember Terry was nothing at that age... Agger is somewhat like Ferdinand, but ferdinand is actually a poser when it comes attacking with the ball, Agger is really a threat when he storms foward.

That's rubbish to be honest mate.

Terry nothing at that age? Why were we trying to buy him off Chelsea before he ever broke into their side then? They wouldn't let him go because they knew they had a gem on their hands to take over from Desailly when he moved on. Don't try and re-write history, John Terry didn't come from nowhere, much like talents like Owen, Gerrard, Joe Cole - people knew about them years before they played their first senior game.

What mistakes has Agger made this season? What about giving the ball to Zaki to score at Anfield. Usually though it's giving free kicks away in dangerous areas because he can't keep his hands off opponents' shirts. I'm not saying the lad's a bad player, he's pretty good, but don't make him out to be something he's not. If you 'can't see any real weaknesses in him' as you say then that would make him the best centre half of all time would it not? Which he clearly isn't.

by **ruskiy playmaker** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:07 pm

maguskwt wrote:
john craig wrote:
metalhead wrote:
john craig wrote:If you ask me Agger is a bit overrated by most LFC fans. He is a pretty good player, but not top class, and also quite injury prone on top of that, which is certainly not good for a central defender - a position where you need stability and consistency.

He is the weakest of our 4 centre halves all round imo and that has shown in his form this season. He has been unimpressive in several games this season. Skrtel will be first choice when fully fit. If he wants to leave then let him, although I wouldn't mind seeing what he's like at left back - that would probably be his best bet long term as a first choice pick if he could adapt well.

Spot on John, he is a very good player indeed, but has his limitations. However, I wouldn't sell him for 8m, a bit more.

I'd go along with that. I wouldn't sell him for 8 million.

For the record I'd ideally like us to keep him, but if so he needs to either be content to spend a reasonable time on the bench, or else step his game up. He can start by being less casual.

what kind of mistakes has he made this season? He was playing very very well with carragher in the season before he got injured... I don't see any real weakness in him. Would've liked him to be stronger in the air but that's about it. He is a far better CB than carragher was at that age... would keep him... 8 million a ridiculously peanuts for a class CB... remember Terry was nothing at that age... Agger is somewhat like Ferdinand, but ferdinand is actually a poser when it comes attacking with the ball, Agger is really a threat when he storms foward.

I cannot think of one CB that goes forward better than Agger at the moment. He is probably the most technically gifted CB in the world and if he manages to stay fit for this season then he'll become one of the best CB's in the world. So I will definitely be outraged if we loose him to another club.

by **neil** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:11 pm

/\ /\ /\ /\ /\
what he said

by **Bad Bob** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:17 pm

ruskiy playmaker wrote:He is probably the most technically gifted CB in the world and if he manages to stay fit for this season then he'll become one of the best CB's in the world.

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:56 pm

Aguero closes on Reds switch - Atletico Madrid striker heading to Liverpool for medical - 4th January 2009

Atletico Madrid have confirmed Sergio Aguero is close to finalising a surprise move to Liverpool.

Aguero has emerged as a target for Liverpool, and rivals Manchester City, in recent weeks as he looks to secure a big money move to the Premier League.

The 20-year-old had been keen to join Liverpool ahead of Man City, but had been set a deadline to complete his switch to Anfield.

On Friday, Atletico gave Aguero 72 hours to resolve his future and he is now on the brink of linking up with Rafa Benitez's squad.

A statement on Atletico 's official website confirmed Aguero has travelled to Merseyside to undergo a medical and finalise personal terms.

No details of the fee have been disclosed, but reports have put the figure in the £25million region.

Aguero is expected to partner Fernando Torres upfront against Stoke City on the weekend and his arrival will put a question mark over the long term future of Robbie Keane.

Former Independiente youngster Aguero, who Rafa Benitez turned down the opportunity to buy prior to his move to Atletico, has scored 35 goals in 90 appearances for Atletico.

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