The rafa situation

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Postby Lando_Griffin » Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:29 am

Sabre wrote:"Torres has won nothing in any team, he doesn't make teams win, he shines for himself".

It's nice to see that Spanish journalists are just as fundamentally spasticated as English ones.

Did they miss his Championship-winning goal in the European final for Spain? :D
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Postby Sabre » Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:24 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:
Sabre wrote:"Torres has won nothing in any team, he doesn't make teams win, he shines for himself".

It's nice to see that Spanish journalists are just as fundamentally spasticated as English ones.

Did they miss his Championship-winning goal in the European final for Spain? :D

You can't possibly imagine the levels of undecency and fúckwitness a Real Madrid journo can reach in order Raul goes to the national squad instead that striker that never wanted to play for Madrid.  :D
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Postby tubby » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:01 pm

They are talking about Rafa now on 5live. Plain and simple you cannot expect Rafa to challange for the league by giving him small amounts of money to spend. And when there are teams like Spurs and City spending huge amounts to get into the top 4? Wake up everyone we need a big change both on and off the pitch it we are to move forward.
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Postby Dazzer » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:07 pm

bavlondon wrote:They are talking about Rafa now on 5live. Plain and simple you cannot expect Rafa to challange for the league by giving him small amounts of money to spend. And when there are teams like Spurs and City spending huge amounts to get into the top 4? Wake up everyone we need a big change both on and off the pitch it we are to move forward.

We need new owners either ones that will support the manager or give us tons of cash ,,, sorry It wouldn't even need to be tons just 30 mil a season on top of transfers out.

These owners we have are deluded to think they can under cut the team each year and expect the club to hold its value at this moment in time I am thinking we might have to go 6-7 steps back to get those "pardon my french" Kunts out of the club get better owners or owner and move forward.

It sickens me to the soul to feel we might have to have worst season in years to move ahead its really backwards.
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Postby aCe' » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:08 pm

bavlondon wrote:They are talking about Rafa now on 5live. Plain and simple you cannot expect Rafa to challange for the league by giving him small amounts of money to spend. And when there are teams like Spurs and City spending huge amounts to get into the top 4? Wake up everyone we need a big change both on and off the pitch it we are to move forward.

dont you get bored from going around every thread repeating the same nonsense ?!
Facts are there to see, just google if you dont want to lookup any of the threads on this board...it it'll probably take 5 seconds... check the money he spent and compare it to what other clubs spend... money isnt our only problem, far from it really but anyways.. if you think it is, and that we'll only win if we go around spending as much as ManCity did this summer year in year out then fair enough...
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Postby Dazzer » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:10 pm

aCe' wrote:
bavlondon wrote:They are talking about Rafa now on 5live. Plain and simple you cannot expect Rafa to challange for the league by giving him small amounts of money to spend. And when there are teams like Spurs and City spending huge amounts to get into the top 4? Wake up everyone we need a big change both on and off the pitch it we are to move forward.

dont you get bored from going around every thread repeating the same nonsense ?!
Facts are there to see, just google if you dont want to lookup any of the threads on this board...it it'll probably take 5 seconds... check the money he spent and compare it to what other clubs spend... money isnt our only problem, far from it really but anyways.. if you think it is, and that we'll only win if we go around spending as much as ManCity did this summer year in year out then fair enough...

Ace I know where you comming from but surely you can see nothing good has happened since we had these owners come to club.I feel if we didn't have a strong minded manager like Rafa at club things would have gone south a long time ago.  :glare:
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Postby tubby » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:10 pm

aCe' wrote:
bavlondon wrote:They are talking about Rafa now on 5live. Plain and simple you cannot expect Rafa to challange for the league by giving him small amounts of money to spend. And when there are teams like Spurs and City spending huge amounts to get into the top 4? Wake up everyone we need a big change both on and off the pitch it we are to move forward.

dont you get bored from going around every thread repeating the same nonsense ?!
Facts are there to see, just google if you dont want to lookup any of the threads on this board...it it'll probably take 5 seconds... check the money he spent and compare it to what other clubs spend... money isnt our only problem, far from it really but anyways.. if you think it is, and that we'll only win if we go around spending as much as ManCity did this summer year in year out then fair enough...

Don't you get tired of slagging of Rafa in every thread?

Of course that is the way. Have you not been watching the league for the last 5 years? Money talks these days. And as for what he has spent I have seen the facts but others choose to ignore it.
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Postby aCe' » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:18 pm

bavlondon wrote:
aCe' wrote:
bavlondon wrote:They are talking about Rafa now on 5live. Plain and simple you cannot expect Rafa to challange for the league by giving him small amounts of money to spend. And when there are teams like Spurs and City spending huge amounts to get into the top 4? Wake up everyone we need a big change both on and off the pitch it we are to move forward.

dont you get bored from going around every thread repeating the same nonsense ?!
Facts are there to see, just google if you dont want to lookup any of the threads on this board...it it'll probably take 5 seconds... check the money he spent and compare it to what other clubs spend... money isnt our only problem, far from it really but anyways.. if you think it is, and that we'll only win if we go around spending as much as ManCity did this summer year in year out then fair enough...

Don't you get tired of slagging of Rafa in every thread?

Of course that is the way. Have you not been watching the league for the last 5 years? Money talks these days. And as for what he has spent I have seen the facts but others choose to ignore it.

whats Rafa got to do with what iv posted?! ... anyways you're obviously not interested in discussing the issue so ill just step out of here...
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Postby Fauxy » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:23 pm

I think Rafa deserves a lot of respect because any other manager would have left already with the two :censored: running the club.

Rafa has spent 17.5 Million on Johnson, £20 Million on Aquilani and 2 Million on the greek guy. He has brought in around £35 Million from other sales.

Do the Maths, Rafa really hasnt taken a lot out of the budget yet the owners are still restricting him.

The only thing that i cant get my head around is why Rafa hasn't sold Lucas and Babel or at least one of the two.
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Postby Dazzer » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:26 pm

Fauxy wrote:I think Rafa deserves a lot of respect because any other manager would have left already with the two :censored: running the club.

Rafa has spent 17.5 Million on Johnson, £20 Million on Aquilani and 2 Million on the greek guy. He has brought in around £35 Million from other sales.

Do the Maths, Rafa really hasnt taken a lot out of the budget yet the owners are still restricting him.

The only thing that i cant get my head around is why Rafa hasn't sold Lucas and Babel or at least one of the two.

Cos he knows if he sold them he still wouldn't get any money !!!!!

He then would have hardly no first team attacking options.  :angry:
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Postby Bad Bob » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:35 pm

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Fauxy wrote:I think Rafa deserves a lot of respect because any other manager would have left already with the two :censored: running the club.

Rafa has spent 17.5 Million on Johnson, £20 Million on Aquilani and 2 Million on the greek guy. He has brought in around £35 Million from other sales.

Do the Maths, Rafa really hasnt taken a lot out of the budget yet the owners are still restricting him.

The only thing that i cant get my head around is why Rafa hasn't sold Lucas and Babel or at least one of the two.

Cos he knows if he sold them he still wouldn't get any money !!!!!

He then would have hardly no first team attacking options.  :angry:

Exactly.  As much as most of us would like to see us sell Babel, Dossena, Lucas and Voronin there's not much we can do if there's no interested buyers.  We really have no choice but to hold onto them and hope they make positive contributions this season.  So far, though, the signs are not especially promising for anyone of them.
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Postby tubby » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:37 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
Dazzer wrote:
Fauxy wrote:I think Rafa deserves a lot of respect because any other manager would have left already with the two :censored: running the club.

Rafa has spent 17.5 Million on Johnson, £20 Million on Aquilani and 2 Million on the greek guy. He has brought in around £35 Million from other sales.

Do the Maths, Rafa really hasnt taken a lot out of the budget yet the owners are still restricting him.

The only thing that i cant get my head around is why Rafa hasn't sold Lucas and Babel or at least one of the two.

Cos he knows if he sold them he still wouldn't get any money !!!!!

He then would have hardly no first team attacking options.  :angry:

Exactly.  As much as most of us would like to see us sell Babel, Dossena, Lucas and Voronin there's not much we can do if there's no interested buyers.  We really have no choice but to hold onto them and hope they make positive contributions this season.  So far, though, the signs are not especially promising for anyone of them.

Which doesn't bode well for us considering we should be all accounts be challanging for the title this year. I hope things take a turn for the better sooner rather than later mate.
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Postby Dazzer » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:44 pm

I think we need to hope fairy godmother pops down and gives us 40 mil to buy a striker and winger.

If not I can't see us adding any real tallent to first team.

Question for you all real big one mind !!!!

If only way you could get rid of owners was to lose Rafa would you take that !  :O
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Postby tubby » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:46 pm

How would that work? Rafa is a great manager, one of the best in the world. It's a tough one mate and I don't really want to say yes to be honest. But I do want the current owners out.
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Postby Dazzer » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:48 pm

bavlondon wrote:How would that work? Rafa is a great manager, one of the best in the world. It's a tough one mate and I don't really want to say yes to be honest. But I do want the current owners out.

Well  I never said it was easy question I find it hard to go one way or other.But i am same I want owners out.I guess it comes to how bad you want them out.

I really put the question there to see general response over how much hate for owners over how much people fancy Rafa to give us our 19th !  :upside:
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