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by **Dundalk** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:45 pm

Why is full back the most important position on the pitch

by **wrighty (not mark!)** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:49 pm

I'm alright thanks guys I've still been looking on the forum for news and that I just haven't really had the time to really get involved so I thought I'd just observe for a year or two! I went into the RAF Regiment a couple of years ago but decided I didn't like it so here I am back in the wonderful world of office bound work!

Nice to know I'm missed.

On important matters though I would be pleased to get Johnson as long as the fee doesn't impede on us getting a Attacking midfielder/forward

by **Scottbot** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:54 pm

Taking the price aside for the moment, i believe he will be a good player for us. He's got good pace, he's very direct, has a few tricks in his locker, his crossing is pretty good and he's a quite a big lad as well. I'm not 100% convinced of his defending ability (I don't think he's rubbish at defending as a good few have put it, just a bit suspect), particularly in the big European away games but i'd be looking to play Arby in those fixtures anyway. But the truth is he won't have to do a lot of defending in home games agaisnt all but the top few sides so he could well be a difference maker.

Coming back to the price, when you compare it to Chelsea's purchase of Bosingwa for a similar fee last year I can remember saying to a few lads that the difference between them and us is that they can afford to pay that sort of money for a full-back. And here we are! I'd say that Johnson and Bosingwa are very comparable in terms of ability so the deal actually matches up quite well when you compare them. The problem posters have (including myself) is that this kid was there for the taking for the last two years, he could have been had at a bargain price and that is what will stick in people's minds. It looks like Chelsea weren't willing to go to such a high fee for the lad (particularly when they sold for just £4mill two years ago) so i'm guessing he could have been had for £12-14 million were it not for City sniffing around. Unfortunately they are having the same effect on transfers that we saw at Chelsea when Abramovich took over and i'm guessing they have probably shown interest in a few players out there just to get the price up to make things difficult for their rivals.

by **7_Kewell** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:54 pm

puroresu wrote:£17 mil. Madness. £17 Mil should get you world class. Johnson isnt world class. Crazy money.

that includes add ons. Rafa will pay about 8 million now and the rest in relation to:

Titles won
England appearances
Liverpool appeances

by **Dundalk** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:59 pm

Okay everyone watch this and pretend his name is Glennio Johnstanio

If he was Italian or Spanish we would be all drooling over him

by **tubby** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:00 pm

Dundalk wrote:Why is full back the most important position on the pitch

Off topic I know but that caption is wrong. That kit was the 98 kit, not from 2002.

by **tubby** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:02 pm

Dundalk wrote:Okay everyone watch this and pretend his name is Glennio Johnstanio

If he was Italian or Spanish we would be all drooling over him

If people want to moan let them moan but I think this is potentially one of our most important signings this summer and I think he is a fantastic player.

With the exception of Sagna id say he is the best in the country and im sure under Rafa and playing with better players around him he will excel beyond that.

by **7_Kewell** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:08 pm

bavlondon wrote:
Dundalk wrote:Okay everyone watch this and pretend his name is Glennio Johnstanio

If he was Italian or Spanish we would be all drooling over him

If people want to moan let them moan but I think this is potentially one of our most important signings this summer and I think he is a fantastic player.

With the exception of Sagna id say he is the best in the country and im sure under Rafa and playing with better players around him he will excel beyond that.

if he doesn't i'm sure Carra will threaten to knock his block off

by **Big Niall** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:14 pm

disgraceful buy, average player , stupid money for a full back, haven't been this annoyed since we bought Keane for stupid money.

What the f*ck is going on?

6 years later and I wouldn't change a word!

by **Igor Zidane** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:19 pm

I always thought he would be the ideal right back for us. A snip at £17 million .

by **dawson99** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:25 pm

I think it's a good signing too... weird how different the views are around here

by **Greavesie** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:27 pm

I'd say that position is pretty solid now and will be for years to come, we have three excellent centre backs, and two good left backs in Insua and Aurelio. Now we must focus on our attacking issues, Silva time

by **Big Niall** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:30 pm

Did we lose the league because of a full back - no we didn't so why are we wasting £18m on a bloody full back.

He isn't even that good, overpriced, flavour of the month, we could have bought him for about £6m a year ago.

Bloody crappy piece of sh!t business.

We need wingers, a creative midfielder, a second goalscorer (unless SG plays just off the front) but a FULL BACK FOR £18M.

WHO SIGNED THAT BLOODY CHEQUE :angry:

by **tubby** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:30 pm

Big Niall wrote:disgraceful buy, average player , stupid money for a full back, haven't been this annoyed since we bought Keane for stupid money.

What the f*ck is going on?

You cant have it both ways mate. Do you want bargain basement unknown or someone established and homegrown? He would have cost a lot anyway due to being English but Arby wanting to leave left Rafa with no choice as there was no other obvious alternative.

If Rafa had gone for an unknown cheaper option fine. If he worked out good, if he didn't it would come down on Rafa as he has sole control of transfers now so he has to make sure he is getting good players.

by **tubby** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:31 pm

Big Niall wrote:Did we lose the league because of a full back - no we didn't so why are we wasting £18m on a bloody full back.

He isn't even that good, overpriced, flavour of the month, we could have bought him for about £6m a year ago.

Bloody crappy piece of sh!t business.

We need wingers, a creative midfielder, a second goalscorer (unless SG plays just off the front) but a FULL BACK FOR £18M.

WHO SIGNED THAT BLOODY CHEQUE

No but you could probably blame Arbys lazy playing at times for conceding goals and posession.

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