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by **tubby** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:56 pm

I don't think he is a natural RB but id prefer him due to the price. This is the first I have heard of us being linked with him so for it to come in the NOWT could mean it's :censored:

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by **ajsgs** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:58 pm

Hello I,m Spanish can you help me with this forum?? Musho Betis!!!!

by **tubby** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:58 pm

Hello,

What exactly do you need help with? Also you would probably be better of posting this in the introduction or chat areas. :;):

by **ajsgs** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:03 pm

I can,t understand hahaha but I,ll like to met people of Liverpool

by **Glen Quagmire** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:04 pm

ajsgs wrote:Hello I,m Spanish can you help me with this forum?? Musho Betis!!!!

We are all about help round these parts

by **Toffeehater** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:07 pm

For 5 million its a steal , but expect a host of clubs to be interested

by **tubby** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:26 pm

Is he in his last year of contract? 5Mil seems so cheap and another of the rumors today say Hughes wants 20Mil for him so if thats the case maybe we are better of with Johnson.

by **akumaface** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:59 pm

Well, a lot of people saying Rafa made mistake with Keane, Babel, Pennent and Bellemy but I remember a lot of us were very excited and thought those were very good signing. Again this is the chicken and egg question. If say Babel went to Arsenal and end up scoring like Henry, we would have said we missed out on that. Was it because Rafa is not good at nurturing young players or those players just didn't perform?? I'm just saying if Rafa signed Johnson and he played really well, a lot of people here will say it was a steal. Same goes for Micah, if he played shlt, people will say it was a waste of 5 million... We have to accept the fact signing a player is bit like gambling. Also, English player has a really inflated price and we don't have a lot of money to spend. Rafa is having a really tough job with the additional rumour with Alonso and Mascher. I think our team is so close that the priority is to keep our best players. Then I would be happy if we aren't able to sign Silva or the likes of Eto. If we are able to sign Distin, crouch and Micah. I would be happy if our full team is intact. I know the perfect scenerio is to be able to get a robben, Tevez or any other better known player but we must be realistic that the so called pessimistic scenerio with Distin, Crouch and Micah is not that bad either.

by **tubby** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:35 pm

akumaface wrote:If say Babel went to Arsenal and end up scoring like Henry, we would have said we missed out on that. Was it because Rafa is not good at nurturing young players or those players just didn't perform??

How can you say that assuming he would be a success at Arsenal? You cannot make assumptions based on a senario which never existed. Wenger has had flops too.

by **Alex G.** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:51 pm

Micah Richards will be another Pennant, immature guy.

by **DrPepe** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:02 pm

Alex G. wrote:Micah Richards will be another Pennant, immature guy.

i think that's exactly right :Oo:

but i think johnson could be even worse

by **akumaface** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:56 pm

bavlondon wrote:
akumaface wrote:If say Babel went to Arsenal and end up scoring like Henry, we would have said we missed out on that. Was it because Rafa is not good at nurturing young players or those players just didn't perform??

How can you say that assuming he would be a success at Arsenal? You cannot make assumptions based on a senario which never existed. Wenger has had flops too.

Don't be so touchy man, read the whole damn thing...I'm just saying that would a player flop here and perform elsewhere? Or can a flop somewhere perform here? Both scenerio can happen. I'm just saying if a player perform then he is a steal. If not, no matter how much the transfer fees are, he is a flop. There is no way all the fans can be satisfied. From Diouf, cisse, kewell, bellemy, Keane and many more. Most of us were so excited before we get them but end up disappointed. I remember especially in the case for Pennant, we were looking for a legit rm and many of us did say they prefer Pennant then (yes, you know who you are and I was one of them as he played very well for Birmingham I think). Everyone was giving him a rave review and said Rafa did a good job getting him. But when he didn't perform, it was suddenly all Rafa's fault. I have no way to know whether Rafa did that transfer simply listening to the fans or he thought he was a good player (it was the best we could do given our limited financial power). It is easy to blame it on someone else when most of us did supported his decision or just because we all felt so excited when someone new comes. We as fans would of course like lot of action from the transfer but most of us are talking Shlt just for transfer sake...

For someone like Johnson, it is doomed to be a failure no matter what as we as fans are never satisfied. If he played well, some will say "Of course, he cost 17 million, he better be." But once he played below par, most will say "see, i told you he ain't worth 17million and we should have gotten XYZ...blah blah blah". Again, it is not his fault he caused 17 million but the fact is that someone is actually willing to pay even more. English player is inflated and what else can we do. Do you think Rafa is stupid? If he can get him for less, he would.

Even if we can get Silva, if he played bad (even though most of us wanted him here now), it will all be Rafa's fault and then some will say "there goes another 20 million down the toilet, see, he is too lightweight as I told you so". You know what I mean......

by **Effes** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:05 pm

Reg wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:Villa to Madrid 34 million

A fool and their money soon go their separate ways Sr Perez....

Sr Perez is a billionaire

by **Owzat** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:13 am

bavlondon wrote:
akumaface wrote:If say Babel went to Arsenal and end up scoring like Henry, we would have said we missed out on that. Was it because Rafa is not good at nurturing young players or those players just didn't perform??

How can you say that assuming he would be a success at Arsenal? You cannot make assumptions based on a senario which never existed. Wenger has had flops too.

Wright and Jeffers to name but two expensive English flops.

Even if Babel were to work at Arsenal wouldn't mean we made a mistake selling him. If we get last season's performances out of him then we can only base it on what he does for us, not what he might do for someone else. If we sold him to Arsenal, Wenger made him a star and sold him back to us, there's no saying he wouldn't flop again.

akumaface wrote:Well, a lot of people saying Rafa made mistake with Keane, Babel, Pennent and Bellemy but I remember a lot of us were very excited and thought those were very good signing.??

I think you might be advised to find evidence of that. On the Keane 'score', excuse the pun, I don't remember people being excited, more dubious about the fee given his age. I for one never thought that much of Pennant, Arsenal to Birmingham said enough for me. Bellamy had a good season with Blackburn but I never was "excited" by his signing.

I think you'd better go find your "lot" in the archives, try the player names in topic titles

by **red_guy** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:37 am

I'm not excited by the prospect of signing Johnson as our new RB. Huh...

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