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by **GYBS** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:52 am

Alves (danny) always seemed to go down very easily - even when he was at sevilla but his attacking qualities are high quality .

by **Bad Bob** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:54 am

Good shout on RVP, Mick. I rate him very highly as a player, although--like many Arsenal players--he seems to be made of glass. He could lead the line in Torres' absence but I think he would excel in "the hole" if Gerrard were out. Alternatively, he would probably be effective down the left in the 4-2-3-1 as he's got a sweet left peg. He might even be an option down the right in that formation, as he seems to like to cut infield and get shots away with his left (much like Babel does on the left when he's not running into people).

by **GYBS** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:55 am

RVP would be a first class signing but can never see it happening - he also seems to be a bit injury prone - but if we got him i would be delighted .

by **Sabre** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:01 pm

GYBS wrote:
Sabre wrote:*Sabre mumbles something about Alves not being a striker then coughs*

which alves are you thinking off sabre ?

Ooops.

I only know my local league and Liverpool, so I take it there's a new Alves out there right?

I watch little international football bar Liverpool and Spanish league, sorry for that. How is he as a player Gybs?

P.S. I've looked google and I didn't remember Boro had him. I should start watching MOTD to know more rival players of this league.

by **bigmick** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:01 pm

Bad Bob wrote:Good shout on RVP, Mick. I rate him very highly as a player, although--like many Arsenal players--he seems to be made of glass. He could lead the line in Torres' absence but I think he would excel in "the hole" if Gerrard were out. Alternatively, he would probably be effective down the left in the 4-2-3-1 as he's got a sweet left peg. He might even be an option down the right in that formation, as he seems to like to cut infield and get shots away with his left (much like Babel does on the left when he's not running into people).

The main problem with van persie Bob may not be his physical structure, more of his mental frailty. When I was in London I knew a few lads who knew a few lads and Van persie is by all accounts a bit of a strange one. Not saying he's a bargepole merchant and evidently he has improved from his tearaway days, but definately needs managing.

Tell the truth I didn't even know he was left footed :blush:

. When I replay in my head that brilliant goal he scored against us at the Emirates this season, he hits that with his right and if I'm not going even more mad, I'd agree with you and suggest that he is good enough to play right side as well as left.

Top player though, I've always really rated him ever since they got him. When they're all fit, they are up there with Man Utd as having the most quality in depth up top in the Premiership. Adebayor, Van Persie, Eduardo, Arshavin and Bendtner are a decent bunch of strikers in anyones language.

by **Greavesie** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:59 pm

bigmick wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:Good shout on RVP, Mick. I rate him very highly as a player, although--like many Arsenal players--he seems to be made of glass. He could lead the line in Torres' absence but I think he would excel in "the hole" if Gerrard were out. Alternatively, he would probably be effective down the left in the 4-2-3-1 as he's got a sweet left peg. He might even be an option down the right in that formation, as he seems to like to cut infield and get shots away with his left (much like Babel does on the left when he's not running into people).

The main problem with van persie Bob may not be his physical structure, more of his mental frailty. When I was in London I knew a few lads who knew a few lads and Van persie is by all accounts a bit of a strange one. Not saying he's a bargepole merchant and evidently he has improved from his tearaway days, but definately needs managing.

Tell the truth I didn't even know he was left footed . When I replay in my head that brilliant goal he scored against us at the Emirates this season, he hits that with his right and if I'm not going even more mad, I'd agree with you and suggest that he is good enough to play right side as well as left.

Top player though, I've always really rated him ever since they got him. When they're all fit, they are up there with Man Utd as having the most quality in depth up top in the Premiership. Adebayor, Van Persie, Eduardo, Arshavin and Bendtner are a decent bunch of strikers in anyones language.

It's with his left Mick

by **stmichael** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:30 pm

bigmick wrote:The other bloke who really impressed me aside from the superstars who only flickered intermittently like harbour lights when viewed from a fishing boat, was (I think his name is) Yaya Toure who gave a monsterous performance in midfield. He would improve Man Utd's team out of all recognition, as would the holder Porto had when they played them.

It astounds me that he's not at Arsenal, considering they haven't had a decent holding player for ages, plus the fact that his brother plays for the club aswell.

by **tubby** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:38 pm

Greavesie wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:Good shout on RVP, Mick. I rate him very highly as a player, although--like many Arsenal players--he seems to be made of glass. He could lead the line in Torres' absence but I think he would excel in "the hole" if Gerrard were out. Alternatively, he would probably be effective down the left in the 4-2-3-1 as he's got a sweet left peg. He might even be an option down the right in that formation, as he seems to like to cut infield and get shots away with his left (much like Babel does on the left when he's not running into people).

The main problem with van persie Bob may not be his physical structure, more of his mental frailty. When I was in London I knew a few lads who knew a few lads and Van persie is by all accounts a bit of a strange one. Not saying he's a bargepole merchant and evidently he has improved from his tearaway days, but definately needs managing.

Tell the truth I didn't even know he was left footed . When I replay in my head that brilliant goal he scored against us at the Emirates this season, he hits that with his right and if I'm not going even more mad, I'd agree with you and suggest that he is good enough to play right side as well as left.

Top player though, I've always really rated him ever since they got him. When they're all fit, they are up there with Man Utd as having the most quality in depth up top in the Premiership. Adebayor, Van Persie, Eduardo, Arshavin and Bendtner are a decent bunch of strikers in anyones language.

It's with his left Mick

Also regarding RVP I doubt Arsenal would ever let him leave. As often as he does get injured he is vital to their set up.

by **Scottbot** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:51 pm

Can't beleive I haven't stumbled into this thread before! Ya can't beat the who's and why's of signing new players. We have this discussion every year but it's a lot more complex this time around in that we need a player who can lead the line (in the absence of Torres), play in the hole behind Torres and challenge for starting time at one (or both) of the wide positions. And that kinda narrows the search down a bit doesn't it!? Now we can only get a player capable of performing all three roles if we spend the majority of the budget on the one player.

Big Money Players

He's a real wish list player but Sergio Aguero probably tops the list for me, who knows how much he would cost? I'm guessing £20 to 25 million. I've been hugely impressed with him every time i've watched him, I think he'd link well with Torres, is strong enough to be the focal point of attack and has the strenght, pace and talent to play on either flank.

Another VERY interesting player would be Tevez, it seems highly unlikely given he is a real fan favourite with the mancs but he could be looking for a new club this summer considering how rarely he plays for them. He'd be a perfect partner for Torres and he's got the pace, mobility and strength to play the lone striker role when needed, i'm not so sure about him playing wide but i'd chance he would be easily as productive as Dirk/Riera and Babel. Chances are he will end in Madrid of he doesn't stay in manc land.

Budget Buys / Guys who would accept sitting on the bench for the big games

Gudjonsen - I've always thought he was an excellent player, big lad who would give us a bit of a target man up-front (something we really lack), he holds it well, scores his fair share and has proved he can play on the flanks. I'm not sure what sort of shape he's in these days but he would be well worth a punt.

Martins - Another one i've always liked and he would be a direct replacement for Torres. He's quick, mobile and skillfull enough to occupy and stretch defences as a lone frontman.

Santa Cruz - I like him, watched him play for Blackburn at Fratton Park earlier this season and was very impressed, he's a tidy player, intelligent, excellent hold the ball up and linking play (better than Crouch I would say) and is tremendous in the air. Is he worth the money we would have to pay with City also chasing him? No.

Tuncay - Is a good shout, good player but I don't think that would help us. I agree with John, he couldn't lead the line.

by **stmichael** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:58 pm

Scottbot wrote:Santa Cruz - I like him, watched him play for Blackburn at Fratton Park earlier this season and was very impressed, he's a tidy player, intelligent, excellent hold the ball up and linking play (better than Crouch I would say) and is tremendous in the air. Is he worth the money we would have to pay with City also chasing him? No.

If not Santa Cruz I'd take John Carew. Decent target man and Rafa knows him from his time at Valencia.

by **GYBS** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:04 pm

would snap up carew - think he would be very good for us

by **GYBS** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:13 pm

Sabre wrote:
GYBS wrote:
Sabre wrote:*Sabre mumbles something about Alves not being a striker then coughs*

which alves are you thinking off sabre ?

Ooops.

I only know my local league and Liverpool, so I take it there's a new Alves out there right?

I watch little international football bar Liverpool and Spanish league, sorry for that. How is he as a player Gybs?

P.S. I've looked google and I didn't remember Boro had him. I should start watching MOTD to know more rival players of this league.

Alfonso Alves mate - brazilian - tore up the dutch league and started well when he arrived at boro but just seems off form totally at the moment . He has the tools to be a very good striker - pace power finishing strength , could be a very good option for us

by **taff** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:50 pm

Assuming Michael Owen will leave the Toon I would take him on a free as we hold all the aces and he is still capable of being a good premiership striker. If we then sell Voronin for a million or so we have some options.

If we keep Babel then he could be the Torres mark2 for some games, but would then spend big on a winger. Riberry for example and Bayern are all over the place at the moment.

If Babel goes for a tidy sum then we should look seriously at Villa

by **GYBS** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:52 pm

im in two minds about owen on a free . think ribery will be out of our price range and dont think we will win any bidding war for villa .

by **tubby** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:08 pm

I think Riberybis dead set on Barca especially the way he acting after the QF and Villa will definatley be out of our price range.

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