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by **Fo Dne** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:20 pm

GYBS wrote:The proof is on the pitch where results the matter . What did cheryou do while he was at the club ? a goal against chelsea ? anything else ?

Cheyrou

You're right lad, 100%.

Its all on the pitch it matters and those last 19 years back me up and 90% of what I've said.

Also, a striker who scores 4 league goals in just over a season, yep. I'll go with that arguement all day. Its all on the pitch that matters, come the end of the season when we're in third place, I think you should stick around for the "I told you so" as I've had the misfortune of doing so many times over the years.

by **GYBS** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:23 pm

Cheryou

If you had any credibility it dissappeared a couple of posts ago

Cheyrou :laugh:

by **LFC2007** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:46 pm

Fo Dne wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
Fo Dne wrote:
You're about as fickle as GBJH.

Oh right, so in what way am I fickle?

Well, in several ways.

You claim to have called almost every player right, when in fact you haven't e.g. Sissoko, Kuyt, Cheyrou, Cisse, Boumsong etc...

You used to defend Houllier to the hilt when he was coming under massive criticism from just about everyone and yet you insult those who defend Rafa and who use similar types of arguments to those you once used e.g. competing with the financial muscle of the Manc's and Chelsea.

Really? I never called Sissoko right?

I never called Kuyt right?

Think you'll find I did lad.

When I was 19 and inexperienced I did fall into the same trap as others yes, as I've grown up and continued to learn from people who know what they are talking about (you not being one of them) I learnt.

I rated Boumsong (wasn't the only one). I also rated Cheyrou (I still believe the lad lacked confidence in himself rather than ability).

I obviously wasn't the only one who rated Pennant either was I as our untouchable manager obviously had the same feeling I had.

I used to defend Houllier due to the way he was heavily critisised, I don't like the way Rafa is heavily praised for doing largely the same job.

LINK 1

Stu aka 'Good bob' stating Sissoko was one of Rafa's best signings.

Kromkamp an average signing alongside Agger, Zenden and Crouch :laugh:

LINK 2

Stu the red later declaring he'd called Sissoko wrong, now again disputing that.

Good signings for us in the past according to you would've been:

Prutton :laugh:

, Beattie, Dunn 'Class - end of'.

Stewart Downing was a player, in your own words, who would 'immensely improve our side', and yet not so long ago he wasn't good enough.

You'd rather us 'not sign sh!t like Riera and save the money', yet he is now looking like a 'superb' signing.

The list no doubt goes on...

All of course in light of your claim that you can spot a sh!t player in 5 min's

by **Fo Dne** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:56 pm

LFC2007 wrote:Stu aka 'Good bob' stating Sissoko was one of Rafa's best signings.

Kromkamp an average signing alongside Agger, Zenden and Crouch

LINK 2

Stu the red later declaring he'd called Sissoko wrong, now again disputing that.

Good signings for us in the past according to you would've been:

Prutton , Beattie, Dunn 'Class - end of'.

Stewart Downing was a player, in your own words, who would 'immensely improve our side', and yet not so long ago he wasn't good enough.

You'd rather us 'not sign sh!t like Riera and save the money', yet he is now looking like a 'superb' signing.

The list no doubt goes on...

All of course in light of your claim that you can spot a sh!t player in 5 min's

So are you suggesting in Rafa's first couple of season's Sissoko wasn't one of his best signings? My opinion of Sissoko never changed, the likes of Mick, Igor Zidane and other regulars will back that up.

David Dunn was ruined by injury and struggled for fitness. He is still a quality player with alot of ability.

Can't remember talking about Beattie or Prutton or in what context.

Stewart Downing would have improved our side in the past. I still don't see him as good enough and on Riera I made a judement without seeing the lad pay and wrongly assumed he'd be a typical Rafael Benitez signing.

All in I stand by what I say. I'm not right all the time, sometimes I get it wrong, at least I have the :censored:

to back my opinion up and state what I see rather go along with Benitez and take 50 games to see the likes of Kuyt, Babel and other aren't good enough.

Why don't you now go and find out my opinions of Phillips, Keane, Carragher, Finnan, SISSOKO AND KUYT, Baros, Finnan, Hyypia (being past it), Baros and the likes.

by **Fo Dne** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:58 pm

What I also see is how I admitted a mistake and it was two years ago. You learn alot in two years.

by **Sabre** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:59 pm

Each of us could look like a real muppet if we make a selection of past posts that are not read in context, LFC2007.

So yes, you could tell to Stu to be a bit more respectful with other opinions, but selecting a couple of glorious moments isn't fair, because actually 98% of the posters wouldn't pass the test of time if we search enough.

by **LFC2007** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:08 pm

Fo Dne wrote:

So are you suggesting in Rafa's first couple of season's Sissoko wasn't one of his best signings? My opinion of Sissoko never changed, the likes of Mick, Igor Zidane and other regulars will back that up.

In May 2006, you said:

"No to be fair, Sissy i fell for all the hype. NEVER again... IE Gonzalez... once bitten twice shy."

In June 2006, you said:

"Rafa Benitez era:

Best Signings: Xabi Alonso, Momo Sissoko, Pepe Reina, Robbie Fowler.

Average Signings: Zenden, Crouch, Kromkamp, Agger, Carson.

Worst Signings: Josemi, Nunez, Morientes.

Given that May comes before June in the Gregorian Calendar, I'd say your opinion changed quite rapidly on that one - over 9 days to be precise.

Why don't you now go and find out my opinions of Phillips, Keane, Carragher, Finnan, SISSOKO AND KUYT, Baros, Finnan, Hyypia (being past it), Baros and the likes.

Well, Kuyt's gone from 'as good as he is...', to being 'woeful', to being 'useful'.

No doubt there are more.

by **LFC2007** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:10 pm

Sabre wrote:Each of us could look like a real muppet if we make a selection of past posts that are not read in context, LFC2007.

So yes, you could tell to Stu to be a bit more respectful with other opinions, but selecting a couple of glorious moments isn't fair, because actually 98% of the posters wouldn't pass the test of time if we search enough.

I've absolutely no doubt I've called plenty wrong (and with hindsight look like a muppet), as I'm sure others have. In this instance though, we're dealing with someone who claims to know more than the 'average joe's' who post on this forum, and who regularly insults those who give opinions on players.

It was time for a reality check.

by **Leonmc0708** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:46 pm

Boys, this is a discussion forum, not a make a tw@to f each other forum.

Locking this for 10 minutes till you start behaving like the men you clim to be.

Lord knows we have all changed our minds on things.

by **Leonmc0708** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:56 pm

Play nice.

by **Fo Dne** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:04 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
Fo Dne wrote:

So are you suggesting in Rafa's first couple of season's Sissoko wasn't one of his best signings? My opinion of Sissoko never changed, the likes of Mick, Igor Zidane and other regulars will back that up.

In May 2006, you said:

"No to be fair, Sissy i fell for all the hype. NEVER again... IE Gonzalez... once bitten twice shy."

In June 2006, you said:

"Rafa Benitez era:

Best Signings: Xabi Alonso, Momo Sissoko, Pepe Reina, Robbie Fowler.

Average Signings: Zenden, Crouch, Kromkamp, Agger, Carson.

Worst Signings: Josemi, Nunez, Morientes.

Given that May comes before June in the Gregorian Calendar, I'd say your opinion changed quite rapidly on that one - over 9 days to be precise.

Why don't you now go and find out my opinions of Phillips, Keane, Carragher, Finnan, SISSOKO AND KUYT, Baros, Finnan, Hyypia (being past it), Baros and the likes.

Well, Kuyt's gone from 'as good as he is...', to being 'woeful', to being 'useful'.

No doubt there are more.

Considering I clearly refered to Cisse as "Sissy" then yeah... keep going... :laugh:

Try looking at all the other Sissoko threads... :laugh:

Shove ya reality check up yer :censored:

.

by **JBG** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:29 pm

I say strip em off, douse em both in baby oil and make em wrestle it out, Oliver Reed style! :pirate

by **Fo Dne** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:41 pm

JBG wrote:I say strip em off, douse em both in baby oil and make em wrestle it out, Oliver Reed style!

Thats one fucked up fantasy that JBG! :alien:

by **Rush Job** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:48 pm

JBG wrote:I say strip em off, douse em both in baby oil and make em wrestle it out, Oliver Reed style!

I`m sure there are certain web sites you can visit if thats your thing.

Dirty boy.

by **LFC2007** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:49 am

Fo Dne wrote:Considering I clearly refered to Cisse as "Sissy" then yeah... keep going...

Try looking at all the other Sissoko threads...

Shove ya reality check up yer .

Kuyt as good at finishing as Gerrard...Kuyt woeful....

Agger a really, really good player....Agger not good enough...

Sissoko one of our best signings....Sissoko not value at £5m...

Stewart Downing would improve us immensely...Stewart Downing isn't good enough..

Bale is way overrated... Bale would be an excellent signing...

Kromkamp an average signing..... Kromkamp a joke...

Skrtel nowhere near good enough.....Skrtel a decent back up

Arbeloa a joke.....Arbeloa decent....

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