Thingy wrote:I dont believe that if we would of played the same team consistantly from the start of the campaign we would of won the league.
skatesy wrote:Thingy wrote:I dont believe that if we would of played the same team consistantly from the start of the campaign we would of won the league.
Fair enough - and, expanding from my point I just believe that if we would've shown more consistency (less rotation) we would have been in the 'running' for the title, not necessarily a guaranteed win.
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god_bless_john_houlding wrote:I don't see why people get their knickers in a twist over the start of the season. We were unbeaten until December wasn't it. Top of the league early on. And to be frank, it was the european cup that was failing because of it...up until the Reading game (in the league) we'd won eight and drew five. But the Reading game changed the season. We gave up, plain and simple, for me Benitez gave up because of the european cup. For me he wasn't prepared to go out at the group stage, and concentrate on the league. This is where he "priorities" the european cup ahead of the league.
This will take some explaining...he put the league first (imo) up until the point that europe was about to go right out the window. Once he saw the european cup disappearing, the league became second on the priority list. If we'd taken 9 points from our opening three champions league games, then I don't think we'd be in the league position we currently find ourselves in. But to the fact that we picked up just one point in the opening three group games has forced the league to suffer IMO. This is where Benitez puts europe first, he's very happy to see the league slip away, but won't let europe go.
ruskiy playmaker wrote:god_bless_john_houlding wrote:I don't see why people get their knickers in a twist over the start of the season. We were unbeaten until December wasn't it. Top of the league early on. And to be frank, it was the european cup that was failing because of it...up until the Reading game (in the league) we'd won eight and drew five. But the Reading game changed the season. We gave up, plain and simple, for me Benitez gave up because of the european cup. For me he wasn't prepared to go out at the group stage, and concentrate on the league. This is where he "priorities" the european cup ahead of the league.
This will take some explaining...he put the league first (imo) up until the point that europe was about to go right out the window. Once he saw the european cup disappearing, the league became second on the priority list. If we'd taken 9 points from our opening three champions league games, then I don't think we'd be in the league position we currently find ourselves in. But to the fact that we picked up just one point in the opening three group games has forced the league to suffer IMO. This is where Benitez puts europe first, he's very happy to see the league slip away, but won't let europe go.
GBJH, when will you ever understand that it's not just Rafa's decision of what trophy we should go for. It's not like he just favors the CL and nothing else. The reason he gave up on the Reading game, was because Torres and Gerrard were getting kicked around and it would have been a disaster if one of them had gotten injured. Plus, he would have been fired, if he did not qualify for the knock out stages. Please tell me, what would you have done in his shoes?
Kharhaz wrote:ruskiy playmaker wrote:god_bless_john_houlding wrote:I don't see why people get their knickers in a twist over the start of the season. We were unbeaten until December wasn't it. Top of the league early on. And to be frank, it was the european cup that was failing because of it...up until the Reading game (in the league) we'd won eight and drew five. But the Reading game changed the season. We gave up, plain and simple, for me Benitez gave up because of the european cup. For me he wasn't prepared to go out at the group stage, and concentrate on the league. This is where he "priorities" the european cup ahead of the league.
This will take some explaining...he put the league first (imo) up until the point that europe was about to go right out the window. Once he saw the european cup disappearing, the league became second on the priority list. If we'd taken 9 points from our opening three champions league games, then I don't think we'd be in the league position we currently find ourselves in. But to the fact that we picked up just one point in the opening three group games has forced the league to suffer IMO. This is where Benitez puts europe first, he's very happy to see the league slip away, but won't let europe go.
GBJH, when will you ever understand that it's not just Rafa's decision of what trophy we should go for. It's not like he just favors the CL and nothing else. The reason he gave up on the Reading game, was because Torres and Gerrard were getting kicked around and it would have been a disaster if one of them had gotten injured. Plus, he would have been fired, if he did not qualify for the knock out stages. Please tell me, what would you have done in his shoes?
So what your saying is our best players cannot stand up to the physical side of the game, indeed when teams like reading are threatening our entire season it just makes sense to give up and wrap up our best in cotton wool?
bigmick wrote:*If you continued reading to this point and you are bored, you are an idiot. Not because it's a particularly good read, but because you should just have stopped reading it earlier on.
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