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Postby puroresu » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:55 pm

Nakumera doesnt get to the byeline and whip crosses in and isnt that quick.  He beats players with skill and technical ability.  His one of the best free kick takers in europe.  The only player I see score as many as him is Juninho at Lyon.    His happy at celtic though and settled.  No reason for him to even want to leave to go to England.
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Postby HacksawJimDuggin » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:24 pm

john craig wrote:
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cpc4eva wrote:http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/07/07/01/manual_124042.html&TEAMHD=soccer

Celtic have fired a warning to Tottenham, Liverpool and Aston Villa by insisting there is no get-out clause in Shunsuke Nakamura's contract.

I'm confused. Why we need another centre midfielder? we already got...er including masch and lucas... 5 centre midfielders... Stupid rumours indeed. Anyway, i guess, it's true about Spurs chasing Naka, Spurs got a habit of buying all the players they don't need.

Nakamura is a wide midfield player.

I live in Scotland and almost all of my family are Celtic fans. I have watched Nakamura a few times and there is no doubting the guy has ability but he is NOT what we are looking for. He is a dead ball specialist and a very good link player but he is not the dynamic wide player we are looking for. He shirks tackles and is known to 'hide' in games when he doesn't really fancy it and has taken a kick or two! This is especially true when he plays away from home.

He is not in the Rafa mould so I can't see this going any further than the pages of this forum. At least I hope not anyway!!

I'm also based up in Scotland mate and I agree with most of what you say about Nakamura.  It's correct he's not the out and out winger we're after, but that's not to say that for a decent price he wouldn't be a good addition to the squad - especially now Garcia's leaving and if the Benayoun deal doesn't happen.

He's got good feet, is a very good passer and is excellent at set pieces.  He won't go by a man though, he won't score goals from open play and he's pretty lightweight.  Can play on either side of midfield.

I think we could do with someone in the squad who's got something extra when it comes to set pieces, and Nakamura's better than anything we have in that respect.  I'm not just talking about scoring from free kicks, I'm talking about quality of corners and free kick deliveries into the box.

I'll admit I don't think this is the time to be buying more squad players, but this is a unique opportunity to get a player on the relative cheap who has something that no one else in our squad offers.

Agreed. At £1m he'd be a great buy but IMO he would not fit well into Rafa's system where he is looking for a disciplined midfield who attack as a unit and defend as a unit. Celtic can afford the luxury (playing in Scotland) of carrying a player like Nakamura. I just think he'd get shown up in the premiership!

If we had the option to sub him on for set pieces and corners (like American football ) then yeah lets go for him but otherwise no thanks!
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Postby HacksawJimDuggin » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:31 pm

I haven't yet commented on the rumour about Heinze yet and I can't find the thread discussing the rumour so I'll throw my tuppence in here....

I think Heinze would be a very good signing for LFC. He offers us competition at LB that will see us either get the best out of Riise or see Riise pushed into a more advanced role on the left of Midfield! With Kewell looking like he 'may' be fit for the season and Aurelio to come back that pretty much sorts our left side. Having said all of this I would still welcome (before heinze) the signing of Matty taylor.

OK people will bang on about "this is not the worldclasss wide player that we need to be buying" but I am a big fan of Riise on the left of midfield and think that if Kewell can get fit then we'll have a selection of top left sides players to choose from!

Maybe Rafa has a world class left winger lined up and if so then f*ckin great!!

The more quality in the squad the better! I do not believe Rafa is finished his summer transfer spree and can see another 2-3 players coming in!
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Postby tukes16 » Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:43 pm

Yeah we might have a quality left wing, but wat about the right hand side we do need 1 class right winger
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Postby puroresu » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:05 pm

HacksawJimDuggin wrote:
john craig wrote:
HacksawJimDuggin wrote:
red_guy wrote:
cpc4eva wrote:http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/07/07/01/manual_124042.html&TEAMHD=soccer

Celtic have fired a warning to Tottenham, Liverpool and Aston Villa by insisting there is no get-out clause in Shunsuke Nakamura's contract.

I'm confused. Why we need another centre midfielder? we already got...er including masch and lucas... 5 centre midfielders... Stupid rumours indeed. Anyway, i guess, it's true about Spurs chasing Naka, Spurs got a habit of buying all the players they don't need.

Nakamura is a wide midfield player.

I live in Scotland and almost all of my family are Celtic fans. I have watched Nakamura a few times and there is no doubting the guy has ability but he is NOT what we are looking for. He is a dead ball specialist and a very good link player but he is not the dynamic wide player we are looking for. He shirks tackles and is known to 'hide' in games when he doesn't really fancy it and has taken a kick or two! This is especially true when he plays away from home.

He is not in the Rafa mould so I can't see this going any further than the pages of this forum. At least I hope not anyway!!

I'm also based up in Scotland mate and I agree with most of what you say about Nakamura.  It's correct he's not the out and out winger we're after, but that's not to say that for a decent price he wouldn't be a good addition to the squad - especially now Garcia's leaving and if the Benayoun deal doesn't happen.

He's got good feet, is a very good passer and is excellent at set pieces.  He won't go by a man though, he won't score goals from open play and he's pretty lightweight.  Can play on either side of midfield.

I think we could do with someone in the squad who's got something extra when it comes to set pieces, and Nakamura's better than anything we have in that respect.  I'm not just talking about scoring from free kicks, I'm talking about quality of corners and free kick deliveries into the box.

I'll admit I don't think this is the time to be buying more squad players, but this is a unique opportunity to get a player on the relative cheap who has something that no one else in our squad offers.

Agreed. At £1m he'd be a great buy but IMO he would not fit well into Rafa's system where he is looking for a disciplined midfield who attack as a unit and defend as a unit. Celtic can afford the luxury (playing in Scotland) of carrying a player like Nakamura. I just think he'd get shown up in the premiership!

If we had the option to sub him on for set pieces and corners (like American football ) then yeah lets go for him but otherwise no thanks!

£1 mil.  Where does that figure arise from.  Those release cause rumours are BS.  There is no such clause.  Agreed he wouldnt really fit into the current side.
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Postby parchpea » Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:23 pm

I think the right side of midfield is our most pressing position now.

Pennant didnt do enough to convince he is the answer and the long and short is there is no one else at the club we can play that side.

The left needs improving but we have Riise and Kewell plus this new kid from Argentina, Lito I think and still Gonzales. There are better players but we have sheer numbers that side.
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Postby puroresu » Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:32 pm

parchpea wrote:I think the right side of midfield is our most pressing position now.

Pennant didnt do enough to convince he is the answer and the long and short is there is no one else at the club we can play that side.

The left needs improving but we have Riise and Kewell plus this new kid from Argentina, Lito I think and still Gonzales. There are better players but we have sheer numbers that side.

I agree.,  I dont think pennant is good enough and we need to sign someone else. For me we need RW and LW
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Postby Paul C » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:23 pm

Liverpool could lose Javier Mascherano after the Copa America.
The People says Mascherano has not signed for Liverpool in a full-time transfer yet and could move on this summer.

The Argentina midfield star was only on loan at the Kop for the second half of last season and Liverpool have not yet agreed to pay the fee of around £16 million.

He has yet to buy a house on Merseyside because of all of the uncertainty - Kop boss Rafa Benitez has already tied up midfielders Momo Sissoko and Xabi Alonso on long deals - and he may leave. Liverpool want to keep Mascherano on loan for another year, but there is the chance of a surprise departure.

The news will alert incoming Manchester City boss Sven Goran Eriksson.
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Postby heimdall » Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:50 pm

Paul C wrote:Liverpool could lose Javier Mascherano after the Copa America.
The People says Mascherano has not signed for Liverpool in a full-time transfer yet and could move on this summer.

The Argentina midfield star was only on loan at the Kop for the second half of last season and Liverpool have not yet agreed to pay the fee of around £16 million.

He has yet to buy a house on Merseyside because of all of the uncertainty - Kop boss Rafa Benitez has already tied up midfielders Momo Sissoko and Xabi Alonso on long deals - and he may leave. Liverpool want to keep Mascherano on loan for another year, but there is the chance of a surprise departure.

The news will alert incoming Manchester City boss Sven Goran Eriksson.

this rumour is cr8p, he singed an 18 month laon contract, we have him until the end of next season, when we will almost certainly buy him and Tevez  :buttrock
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Postby Paul C » Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:48 am

heimdall wrote:
Paul C wrote:Liverpool could lose Javier Mascherano after the Copa America.
The People says Mascherano has not signed for Liverpool in a full-time transfer yet and could move on this summer.

The Argentina midfield star was only on loan at the Kop for the second half of last season and Liverpool have not yet agreed to pay the fee of around £16 million.

He has yet to buy a house on Merseyside because of all of the uncertainty - Kop boss Rafa Benitez has already tied up midfielders Momo Sissoko and Xabi Alonso on long deals - and he may leave. Liverpool want to keep Mascherano on loan for another year, but there is the chance of a surprise departure.

The news will alert incoming Manchester City boss Sven Goran Eriksson.

this rumour is cr8p, he singed an 18 month laon contract, we have him until the end of next season, when we will almost certainly buy him and Tevez  :buttrock

Mascher AND Tevez? I don't think were gonna buy Tevez mate cos Rafa has blown a big chunk of the cash on Torres.
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Postby Ola Mr Benitez » Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:03 am

Mascha is ours until the end of next season on loan and we then have an option to buy for £17 million.
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Postby Ray Pugh » Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:50 pm

Hello all my LFC Loving Comrades, Ray here!!

I'm new to this site, nice to meet you all, you all seem jolly nice

It seems to me that this "no mark" of a signing Voronin is causing all the trouble. Who the hell is he? if it weren't for him we could get rid of Bellemy and Cisse and leave us with Torres, Crouch and Kuyt. Then, although unlikely, we could sign Tevez. Job done

Damn you Andriy !!

Oh well suppose we better give him a chance though

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Postby destro » Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:31 pm

According to  Talksport. Originally Atletico were going to sign Riquelme AND Forlan as everyone knows - then they suddenly pulled out of that deal and just got Forlan.

Apparently Liverpool gave them the guarantee of Garcia for £4m in exchange for them dropping their interest in Juan Roman.

Talksport say that they're preparing a bid but nothing has been sealed yet.

Anyone heard anything else about this
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Postby roberto green » Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:54 pm

juan roman riquelme, isnt he an everton player!!!!!! lol, lol lol
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Postby Elchris » Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:34 pm

Holy jesus....i heard enough , riquelme to anfield...? ??? He's like the argies's Zidane..!!!!

A lazy player , players around him do the dirty work for him tackling , track back ,marking but he's quality on his passing and thru passes and can open up and any defences plus he's very good on dead ball situation..!!! Very Very intelligent players cool as a cucumber..!!

But this is another case that is too good to be true , he is a awesome players and expects to be in the starting eleven ,we got too many players in the centrel position but he's different mayb could play a *cf role and would not go well with rafa rotation policy ... but if we got him , god dammit it'z goona be a joy to watch him play
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