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by **Feeney** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:37 am

Straight outta left field.......

The TimesJune 30, 2007

Heinze next in line as BenÍtez spree goes on

Oliver Kay
Liverpool expect to complete the signing of Fernando Torres from Atlético Madrid within days, but even that £20 million-plus record deal may not be the most striking of the summer at Anfield if Rafael BenÍtez succeeds with an improbable bid to prise Gabriel Heinze from Manchester United.

No established player has moved directly between the North West rivals since Phil Chisnall joined Liverpool in 1964, but the manager intends to change that, having identified Heinze, who is out of favour at Old Trafford, as a leading contender to reinforce his defence.

The Argentinian, who is playing for his country in the Copa America, was thought to be close to moving to a club in Spain, but Liverpool are understood to have made preliminary inquiries about his availability.

Potential suitors may not be required to negotiate directly with United as the 29-year-old can be bought out of his contract for approximately £6 million under new Fifa regulations.

Do we even need him?

by **Reg** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:18 am

Too many argies and spaniards ffs where do we draw the line

Rafa's getting worse than Ged.

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:33 am

Why would we need Heinze when we have Robbie Threfall in the reserves. Along with Hobbs/Paletta if we were considering playing him at centre half. Come on he's not gonna break Carra/Agger at the back and although I don't rate Riise as a left back, I'd rather have him than a tin on baked beans (Heinze if you didn't get the joke) and for cover we still have Big Sami and Aurellio. So no to Heinze and yes to bringing some of the young lads through. Put Threlfall in now Rafa and get Craig Linfield up front.

by **account deleted by request** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:57 am

Feeney wrote:Straight outta left field.......

The TimesJune 30, 2007

Heinze next in line as BenÍtez spree goes on

Oliver Kay
Liverpool expect to complete the signing of Fernando Torres from Atlético Madrid within days, but even that £20 million-plus record deal may not be the most striking of the summer at Anfield if Rafael BenÍtez succeeds with an improbable bid to prise Gabriel Heinze from Manchester United.

No established player has moved directly between the North West rivals since Phil Chisnall joined Liverpool in 1964, but the manager intends to change that, having identified Heinze, who is out of favour at Old Trafford, as a leading contender to reinforce his defence.

The Argentinian, who is playing for his country in the Copa America, was thought to be close to moving to a club in Spain, but Liverpool are understood to have made preliminary inquiries about his availability.

Potential suitors may not be required to negotiate directly with United as the 29-year-old can be bought out of his contract for approximately £6 million under new Fifa regulations.

Do we even need him?

He can play CB and Left back, so would be decent cover for CB and a decent challenge for Riise and Aurelio,while also adding a bit more ferocity to our back four when played. Pace might be a problem with him, as from what I can gather hes pretty slow.

Cant say I would be thrilled paying £6million for him though (29).

by **bigmick** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:09 am

I think he's a really good player, and personally although I feel six million is possibly a bit steep think he would be a brilliant signing. He would add just the right mix of bite and experience to the squad, but after having said all that I think the move is unlikely given the history between the clubs.

by **account deleted by request** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:13 am

bigmick wrote:I think he's a really good player, and personally although I feel six million is possibly a bit steep think he would be a brilliant signing. He would add just the right mix of bite and experience to the squad, but after having said all that I think the move is unlikely given the history between the clubs.

Potential suitors may not be required to negotiate directly with United as the 29-year-old can be bought out of his contract for approximately £6 million under new Fifa regulations.

Perhaps this is the only way he will join us Mick (as long as we don't have to speak to them

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by **66-1112520797** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:53 am

Feeney wrote:Straight outta left field.......

The TimesJune 30, 2007

Heinze next in line as BenÍtez spree goes on

Oliver Kay
Liverpool expect to complete the signing of Fernando Torres from Atlético Madrid within days, but even that £20 million-plus record deal may not be the most striking of the summer at Anfield if Rafael BenÍtez succeeds with an improbable bid to prise Gabriel Heinze from Manchester United.

No established player has moved directly between the North West rivals since Phil Chisnall joined Liverpool in 1964, but the manager intends to change that, having identified Heinze, who is out of favour at Old Trafford, as a leading contender to reinforce his defence.

The Argentinian, who is playing for his country in the Copa America, was thought to be close to moving to a club in Spain, but Liverpool are understood to have made preliminary inquiries about his availability.

Potential suitors may not be required to negotiate directly with United as the 29-year-old can be bought out of his contract for approximately £6 million under new Fifa regulations.

Do we even need him?

I think he is a good player, between him JAR, Aurelio I'd say he looks the better defensively. Although we haent seen enough of Aurelio to be sure. The Argie does look better, if we were to sign him I think that would reinforce a solid defence even more.

If true a potentially good siging, but can anyone really see Man U selling to us ?

Oops just seen S@ints post :blush:

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:01 am

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:Why would we need Heinze when we have Robbie Threfall in the reserves. Along with Hobbs/Paletta if we were considering playing him at centre half. Come on he's not gonna break Carra/Agger at the back and although I don't rate Riise as a left back, I'd rather have him than a tin on baked beans (Heinze if you didn't get the joke) and for cover we still have Big Sami and Aurellio. So no to Heinze and yes to bringing some of the young lads through. Put Threlfall in now Rafa and get Craig Linfield up front.

you know, in about all of your posts you talk about picking a youngster from the reserves.
and if its not that, you talk about lita and doyle.

are you John Owens in disguise? :laugh:

by **whylongball?** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:44 am

i would pick him any day over Risse...very good playerdefensively and offensively though i dont know if he recovered from his previous injury

by **RichardLFC1** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:34 am

I think Heinze would be a great signing for us. Hes very good defesively and can support well up front. Always good to have another option

by **Ace Ventura** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:28 am

Couldnt see any deal between LFC and united taking place but Heinze would be a very good signing.
Before the injury last season he had been brilliant for them and can cover various positions.
He is decent on the ball and comfortable in possesion and would be top cover should anything happen to any of our defenders like the start of last season when Carra and Riise both turned there ankles in the opening game.

by **cpc4eva** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:06 am

Liverpool have signed Daniel Pacheco, a highly rated U16 centre forward from Barcelona. He is a Spanish u-16 international and appears to be one of their stars.

The original link to this story is Spanish and comes from here: click here.

http://www.sport.es/default...._PK=803

Here are some videos of the kid in action. Click here for videos.

http://www.airfutbol.com/videodanipacheco.htm

In action against England Under 16 Click here for this.

http://www.thefa.com/England....ort.htm

The excerpt below comes from a Barcelona forum:

quote:
Pacheco, one of the pearls of the youth team, 'flees' to Liverpool

The never ending story. England has set it's sights yet another one of the emerging figures in the blaugrana youth setup and, this time, they've managed to pry it away from Barça. In this occasion, the 'robbery' has been committed by Liverpool, who have taken Daniel Pacheco with them, central forward of the U-16 team.

The young player, who, despite having just turned 16 this past January, has already been used regularly for Alex Garcia for the U-18A, has decided to accept the 'Reds' offer to play in England for the next 3 seasons. Although Barça has tried to keep the player under it's wing, the agreement between the English club and the player is irreversible.

Garcia Pimienta, his manager at the U-16A's this season, considers that he is "a big loss for the club because we're talking about a striker with lots of quality and a goalscorer. He's been our top goalscorer, reaching almost 30 goals and he's already played with the U-18A's, so i don't think this is a sporting issue, because he is highly valued at the club". The coach considers that "along with Thiago Alcantara and Gai Assulin he is one of the U-16 players with best prospects that we have, but there is nothing we can do now. It all happen very fast".

Dani Pacheco arrived in Barcelona from his native Malaga and has spent the last four years at the club. Now, like Cesc, Pique or Fran Merida before him, he's gone to England.

This comes off the same forum but from 2 years ago in 2005, seems he was making waves back then:

quote:

I have a question about a young player named Dani Pacheco. We bought him from Málaga in 2003 when he was 13 years old. Back then he was the biggest star in Spain having already played for the Spanish NT in a youth tournament.He must be 15 years old now and I wonder if some of you people who lives in Barça have some more info about him? How's he doing and so on.

Daniel Pacheco Lobato is half Spanish and half Czech, and he plays in Barca's Cadet B team. He's a good striker who scores a lot of goals, and shoots with both feets. However, he's not the most talented player in this team, where there are Terron(arguably the most talented defender in the Cantera), the German Dennis Krol(strong midfielder, with much quality), The Brazilian Thiago(Son of the Former Brazilian midfielder Mazinho), the Portuguese Alexander Zahavi(a winger with much quality, a little selfish) and of course, the Israeli playmaker and probably the most talented player in Cadet B - Gai Asulin.

Most of the information I gave is from reports i'm reading about this team every now or then, but I haven't seen much of most of this team's players in action

http://home.skysports.com/list.as....ZE+RACE

Liverpool are reportedly ready to rival Juventus for the signature of Gabriel Heinze, but the Manchester United defender is remaining tight-lipped about his future until after the Copa America.

The uncompromising full-back is currently representing Argentina in Venezuela but on his return to Manchester, it does look likely that he could be set for a move away from Old Trafford.

Heinze has cultivated a cult status amongst the United faithful since arriving at the club from Paris Saint Germain, but last season, was more of a peripheral figure due to Patrice Evra's emergence as first choice left-back.

Juventus and Real Madrid are known to be keen on recruiting him for next season, but it has now emerged that United's Premier League rivals Liverpool are also suitors.

Sir Alex Ferguson would likely be loath to sanction Heinze's departure to Merseyside, but should Rafa Benitez outbid foreign interest then a deal could yet be concluded.

Heinze, though, is concentrating his thoughts on matters on-the-field, rather than off it.

"I know some clubs are interested in me," he told the :censored:

"My head is with the Argentina team to play the Copa America.

"After that and a holiday, I will know better where I will play next season."

by **maguskwt** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:08 am

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:Why would we need Heinze when we have Robbie Threfall in the reserves. Along with Hobbs/Paletta if we were considering playing him at centre half. Come on he's not gonna break Carra/Agger at the back and although I don't rate Riise as a left back, I'd rather have him than a tin on baked beans (Heinze if you didn't get the joke) and for cover we still have Big Sami and Aurellio. So no to Heinze and yes to bringing some of the young lads through. Put Threlfall in now Rafa and get Craig Linfield up front.

for a moment i thought you were being sarcastic... and then i realised you were being sereious!... :laugh:

...

Heinze IMO would be a great addition he's a better LB than riise and in his first season he was good for united only when he got injured his form dropped and that's expected after such a serious injury... if we have him we can play riise as LW... right now we dont' have a cover for that position and i'm not talking about the CB position...

by **heimdall** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:20 am

This would be a great signing,

A) It would p1ss off the Manc c**ts :angry:

B) He's a very good player and would give needed cover to our defence. :buttrock

by **Mick-o dywer** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:22 pm

Heinze is manure best def alongside vidic...only reason why he has fallen out of fav with alex is because he has too much culture.........regarding your man on about the youngfella, you're taking the :censored:

...heinze at this moment in time is better than agger......

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