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by **65-1140560321** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:38 am

Dalglish wrote:
Alfonso Alonso 2006 wrote:
Dalglish wrote:Liverpool lose a game and it's out with the double barrels as far as your concerned.

No its not.

this is an ongoing problem.

Since new year, Crouch has scored 1 goal, Cisse and Moro Zero!

Is THAT GOOD ENOUGH FOR LFC THEN IN YOUR BOOKS?

come back when you know what football is about!

I'm not going to rise to your obvious inability to see the bigger picture Hustler.............neither to your cheap shots about my knowledge of football which co-incidentally I don't go on a big EGO trip about like you on here ......

Your not Einstein mate cos you identify where the problems lie........ (strikers and goal ratio's).

Anybody with an hole in their can see that the strikers aren't producing the goods. Whats your solution ? Sack the lot of them and buy BIG in the summer Unless £27 million doesn't count as big in your book we already did that buying Cisse, Morientes and Crouch

Dalglish, its the worst games to goals ratio in the league for over 15 years.

whos to blame for that...... me for slating them?

we need top class strikers

by **Sabre** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:46 am

Dalglish, its the worst games to goals ratio in the league for over 15 years.

And what about the league position. Is it the worst of 15 years?

how could you get that with 9 good footballers and 2 shítty strikers on top?

I think that both Crouch and Morientes lacked some goals this season, and they've been to anxious about it, but the amount of work they've done for the team (and thus it's league position) is huge and ungrateful. I think that Rafa relies on them because of that.

If you brought Torres, he'd have the same trouble, only that he'd moan more about not having a free role. If you brought Raul, he'd score 3 goals more than Morientes, but your midfielders would score 5 less. Football is not as simple as, if our midfielders score, then if we bring a better striker we'll win the champions league.

THe only striker I can think of that would know making what Crouch and Mori does, plus scoring a lot of goals, would be Etoo, or somebody like him. Quite expensive if you ask me. We can improve a lot our game even with the same players we are playing now, football is not all about names.

by **Alanay** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:52 am

Agreed with our strikers not delivering the goals. But, we do need more quality service into the boxes where strikers can anticipate the incoming ball before the lost the firing power as they make their way into the box. We need a prolific premier league striker. we need a killer in front of the goal, or 2 of them.

But amazingly, even as we lost the game, I don't feel really bad or mad. Don't know why. Of course I want Liverpool to win. But, I see we will win the FA Cup this year. Because that's where our lady luck is.

by **badradio** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:56 am

I didn't read all the previous posts but it seems that some Benfica fans weren't the most polite. I feel sorry for them and we should show that we deserve to be respected.

About the game, we were a bit lucky in the first 20 mins, but we knew that it would be very hard to not concede since Liverpool was obviously trying to score an early goal and take advantage of the home support. Nevertheless, in my opinion Crouch's miss on one-on-one with Moretto and JC shot on the post were not a matter of luck. That's lack of ability.
Benfica defended well, as I expected and told you before. Your support was impressive, I never doubted of that, but as I also said, the atmosphere is not everything and besides that, we are used to it.
I hope that now some of you take back some words you said about Simão after watching just one match. He was not the MoM, but you could taste some of his excelency on that shot. I sincerely think that some of you were unfair to our team, that we would see a real hammering, and laughed when somebody said that we could win in Anfield.
Benfica did a perfect match,in my opinion...very realistic. Liverpool was not very productive on the attack. From the 20 mins on you were only kicking the ball upfront in hope that Crouch could do some damage. It's easy to deal with those efforts with our CB's.
It was really nice to see your support after our second goal, singing YNWA. That would never happen in Portugal. And I know that most of the stadium even clapped our team. That's nice and I appreciate it. When someone show class on defeat you just need to praise them... And you should still be proud of your players, afterall they're still the european champions.

Good luck for the rest of league.

by **The_Rock** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:02 am

1)Our best forward line at the moment is Cisse & Garcia....although..... tat is not saying much....... It is the best we have.

2)Enuff of playing this long ball :censored:

...only championship sides play this type of football. Last season, we kept the ball on the ground and won the champions league. Now just becos crouch is in the team, we are playing like Wimbledon :no

3)Get rid of Morientes, Crouch & Mellor. If anybody wants to buy Cisse for > 8 million pounds then only sell him (i don't think anyone will even bid 3 million pounds for him, seeing his performance as a RW and 15 mins cameo).

4)Make sure we get 2 proven strikers and a RW this summer..... This is gonna cost $$$. Yeah, sure...But we have to spend if we are to progress further. Just 2 proven striker & RW...That should be the priority...We can improve the other positions of the squad once we get the 2 strikers and a RW. That means no new goalie, right back, left back, centreback, centrehalf, sweeper, central midfielder, left winger, defensive midfielder...etc.

by **65-1140560321** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:06 am

Sabre wrote:
Dalglish, its the worst games to goals ratio in the league for over 15 years.

And what about the league position. Is it the worst of 15 years? how could you get that with 9 good footballers and 2 shítty strikers on top?

count the league points mate. we are proable as near to the bottom four s twe are chelsea.

by **The_Rock** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:16 am

Sabre wrote:
Dalglish, its the worst games to goals ratio in the league for over 15 years.

And what about the league position. Is it the worst of 15 years? how could you get that with 9 good footballers and 2 shítty strikers on top?

I think that both Crouch and Morientes lacked some goals this season, and they've been to anxious about it, but the amount of work they've done for the team (and thus it's league position) is huge and ungrateful. I think that Rafa relies on them because of that.

If you brought Torres, he'd have the same trouble, only that he'd moan more about not having a free role. If you brought Raul, he'd score 3 goals more than Morientes, but your midfielders would score 5 less. Football is not as simple as, if our midfielders score, then if we bring a better striker we'll win the champions league.

THe only striker I can think of that would know making what Crouch and Mori does, plus scoring a lot of goals, would be Etoo, or somebody like him. Quite expensive if you ask me. We can improve a lot our game even with the same players we are playing now, football is not all about names.

Sabre, i have been supporting LFC for 22 yrs..... Even during Souness era, our attacking front wasn't this bad. Strikers have to score (end of discussion)...... i mean ppl were bashing baros when he scored 13 goals last season. U saying we shouldn't at least question the wisdom of playing these 2 tortoises together ?

To sum it, "OUR ATTACK IS A JOKE".

by **tel** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:25 am

Morientes has been disappointing to say the least, but those first half chances didnt fall to him.

As much as I think we're better off without him, I would much prefer when Gerrard played Crouch through that it had been Morientes. Crouch never for a second looked like he was going to score that chance.

For mine, if Crouch is going to stay at this club and not be shipped out along with Cisse, its to play a Heskey role and create chances, not finish them. I'm so riled I'm even prepared to say bring Michael Owen back. He would have scored a hatrick in that game.

by **Houllier=LFC** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:48 am

I jumped out of my seat when Crouch missed that chance, do we even have shooting practises in our training ground?? If that one had gone in the whole game would be entirely different.
Cisse is a very one dimensional player who only knows how to run in a straight line and has problem using his left foot, doesnt know how to cross decently. But can he be worse than moro? Moro is slow, bad at running into spaces, pretty much always disappear in the 2nd half of every match.
Strictly speaking Fowler is the only poacher in the team with Garcia, but Garcia is a very inconsistent player, you just couldnt know when is he going to play like a champ.
This is frustrating, if you realise what we could have achieved if the strikers are converting the easiest chances...

by **GunGod** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:08 am

I actually think Crouch (and Traore) knocked us out.

Traore is an absolute liability. Not because he couldn't take care of himself, but because he makes other defenders having to clean up after him. That messes up the system completed. Especially when Traore plays in the middle. I almost wanted to say that I am tearing my hair out on Rafa's insistence to play Traore despite him obviously knowing DT belongs to division 1 material. But we indeed did not have any other center backs yesterday. Such is the thinness of our squad.

Crouch is never going to get us 20 goals a season. Even worse, the reason we bought him for, his headers, are not even efficient because he does not have a good technique. Furthermore, while he used to get freekicks after players climb on him to reach a header, now referees are probably being sympathetic to the defenders instead! That miss by Crouch knocked us out. Period. Had he scored, I dare say we would settle down in the game and Benfica would have no chance. But Benfica played well in the end and all that whistling against them was probably not too nice to hear.

Our best partnership up front now must be Kewell and Fowler. Yes, I would play Kewell up front and Risse on the left. I'm no brillant tactician but sometimes Benitiz needs to think out of the box to solve situations.

by **alilo** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:00 am

we need a real striker:angry:

by **looprevil** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:12 am

Kewell and Fowler up front? Interesting. Normally I would want to keep kewell on the wing as I think he has being playing really well out there, but desperate times call for desperate measures. I've tried to be patient with our strikers but enough is enough. Its March and they have scored 1 goal? And its not like they haven't had chances, who knows maybe kewell is a hidden striker

by **The Manhattan Project** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:14 am

The thing that amazes me is that despite all our striking problems, we are still in a great position in the Premiership and have been in the top three for months.

With the right strikers, there's no telling what we can accomplish next season. We are still very much a "work in progress". There's much to look forward to.

by **Kasual** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:23 am

The Game : I thought Benfica was lucky not to concede on the first 25 minutes. I expected even more pressure but you had lots of chances even so. We could have easily conceded a goal from 2 or 3 chances you had. Having said that, i thought from the moment Geovanni hit the bar we got in control. 5 minutes later Simão (yes what a load of bullcra.p he is, don't sign him) showed some magic on a typical Simão movement. From then on i thought we made a perfect game. I'm sorry i know this is against what most of you think but i don't think Benfica were inferior to Liverpool. Sincerely. We did what we had to do.

If you didn't slag Benfica after the 1st leg skip this paragraph please : For those of you who went on saying we were shi.te and the worst team ever in the CL and were gonna be hammered easily in anfield etc my sincere wishes that you learn something, like i did for the last 2 CL when the underdogs got it (you and fuc.ken Porto).

I want to congratulate your fantastic fair-play at the end by applauding our players. I can assure you that would not happen in Portugal unfortunately. Another thing that wouldn't happen in Portugal would be after conceding a goal that sent you off of the competition to start singing at full strength. You should be proud for that, not many teams have that kind of support, although the actual support during the match could have been better but i understand everyone was too nervous.

Despite some arrogant comments here or there, that only reveal a lack of experience when it comes to seeing games (i've learned anything can happen) by some of you, i consider that you should be proud of your fan base and of your club. Few clubs have the kind of history you have and most of all , the soul you have which is the most important thing. That's something Chelsea or Real Madrid or Juventus don't have. They're just successfull clubs. Win it or not, Liverpool will forever be respected for many reasons.

Good luck for the rest of the season, and i hope we meet in next year's CL final if possible so get that 2nd place.

by **SGERRARDno8** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:28 am

Ciggy wrote:Right Im ready for a fucking rant
Constant persistance with Fernando Morientes has cost us prem games plus CL games.
I know he is Rafa's best mate but FFS Rafa we went out of Europe tonight because you persist on playing him.
Pongolle could come off the bench and turn a game, Milan Baros ran his heart out for Liverpool had pace was a goal threat but he got shipped off and out aswell.

In comes Peter Crouch BTW he is still not good enough for Liverpool football club, harsh but true I know the idea of him sort of thing but he is just a taller Heskey.
We have never replaced Michael Owen, he would have a f.uckin field day with the chances we create.

We didnt get beat over 2 legs I am not Mourhino but Benfica where there for the taking sorry, if we took our chances in the first half with a prolific goal scorer we would have gone through.

so basicly we knocked ourselves out because we fail to put it in the onion bag.
A game to far aswell maybe thanx to UEFA with us having a two week holiday then back to buisness, oh well we can concentrate on finishing 2nd now (goals permitting )
Probably play them feckin cheating rent boys in the F.A.Cup.

So guys we are still in with a chance of the F.A.Cup and automatic qualification to the CL next season.

Yes last nyt was disappointing but liverpool still have a lot of work to do for this season and exiting UCL last nyt can help us in beating manure to 2nd place and taking the FA cup. this season was always going to be tough and especially long for liverpool with them playing so many matches this season already, at least now that number will be cut down. this team is still growing and next season we wil be back to reclaim the UCL title from this years winners. & we're still European Champions until the final whistle blows at the final. :buttrock

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