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by **DAV** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:11 pm

Someone in 1 post mentioned that our league is becoming more and more like the italian league.
We have managers now from abroad who have come into our game in droves
most of which either never played football themselves or were pretty :censored:

at it.
I'm not saying their all bad but they seem to think its like playing chess
slow boring and give nothing away
and attack very frequently
also they are obsessed with new formations, and new ideas
again not all bad
however
goals win games not clean sheets
clean sheets are a bonus
sort it out raffa

by **Starbridge42** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:31 pm

the italian league? if memory serves me correctly there isnt a single foreign coach at a Serie A club... and are there any italian managers in the premiership? whats the italian connection?

by **DAV** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:37 pm

the connection is
The premiership is beginning to play like the italian league
do u remember when everyone thought the continental wing back formation was the way forward
well that flopped
italian football is more about defence
attacking options seem limited generally hense all the 0-0, and 1-1 they get
the top managers in our game today seem to think the italian way should be or way
my answer to that is english football has dominated european football before and will again (but our way)
we were known to play the fastest best football in europe
hense alot of over sea players either cannot adapt or take along time doing so
managers are more concerned with defence than attack

by **Leonmc0708** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:04 pm

DAV wrote:Someone in 1 post mentioned that our league is becoming more and more like the italian league.
We have managers now from abroad who have come into our game in droves
most of which either never played football themselves or were pretty at it.
I'm not saying their all bad but they seem to think its like playing chess
slow boring and give nothing away
and attack very frequently
also they are obsessed with new formations, and new ideas
again not all bad
however
goals win games not clean sheets
clean sheets are a bonus
sort it out raffa

by **109-1093441336** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:45 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
DAV wrote:Someone in 1 post mentioned that our league is becoming more and more like the italian league.
We have managers now from abroad who have come into our game in droves
most of which either never played football themselves or were pretty at it.
I'm not saying their all bad but they seem to think its like playing chess
slow boring and give nothing away
and attack very frequently
also they are obsessed with new formations, and new ideas
again not all bad
however
goals win games not clean sheets
clean sheets are a bonus
sort it out raffa

well said Dav.

pity pre-pubesents like this leon boy have no real chain of thought, so they use smilies to somehow jumble an opinion.

what dav can say in one para, this nobody leon boy cannot fathome in all his 1000 + posts.

leon probably got to that post amount through meaningful posts like "

" and "

" .

pathetic.

by **Pablo_Escobar** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:52 pm

meelan#5 wrote:well said Dav.

pity pre-pubesents like this leon boy have no real chain of thought, so they use smilies to somehow jumble an opinion.

what dav can say in one para, this nobody leon boy cannot fathome in all his 1000 + posts.

leon probably got to that post amount through meaningful posts like " " and " " and " " .

pathetic.

Yeah meelan#5, but instead of Your true wisdom posts, Leon loves the club, and he brings something to the forum. You're just a wind up boy, and I hope You'll reach the ban card limit soon, 3 already, I believe there's 3 to go, so don't keep us waiting.

by **109-1093441336** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:37 am

Pablo_Escobar wrote:
Yeah meelan#5, and I hope You'll reach the ban limit soon, i hope you rot like your coloured people

You hope for alot of things, like pubes.

My hope is you get shot like your name sake.

:nod

Am i there yet?

:laugh:

by **woof woof !** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:40 am

DAV wrote:the connection is
The premiership is beginning to play like the italian league
do u remember when everyone thought the continental wing back formation was the way forward
well that flopped
italian football is more about defence
attacking options seem limited generally hense all the 0-0, and 1-1 they get
the top managers in our game today seem to think the italian way should be or way

Did you actually think about this prior to posting or was it something that just came to you as you were taking a dump ?

" italian football is more about defence
attacking options seem limited generally hense all the 0-0, and 1-1 they get "

Lets look at some stats from Italian , Spanish and English football for the 2004/05 season.
In 380 serie A matches last season there were 125 draws whilst in la liga there were only 50 draws in 380 matches . Superficially this may support your observation that italian football is more about defence ,however the total goals scored in serie A was 959 ,only 21 goals fewer than la liga . That is a difference of .05 (five hundreths) goals per game . This doesn't suggest to me that Italian football today is primarily more defensively minded but rather that teams within the italian league are perhaps more evenly matched .
The premiership had 110 draws last season ,15 fewer than serie A and yet 975 goals were scored , only 5 fewer than la liga .Based on that I could say that the premiership is becoming more like the spanish league but that would be as ridiculous as your original assertion . :kungfu:

by **Sabre** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:25 am

Hey guys, a question of tactics that I don't get and doesn't deserve a new thread:

Why do English teams traditionally defend the corners with ONE man in the second post, instead of two? I mean I don't know if that has changed, since I have seen a couple of teams putting two men defending the corner in the goalie, but that is not what it was usual.
---------------
| |
-----------------------------------------------
Corner Goalie X English defender
kick

That's to say, we put one X in the first, and another in the second. English used to put just one in the second, is it still that way? what is Reina commanding to do? (didn't realize last match)

A friend of mine says that the first man in the post just quits visibility to the goalie, but I don't agree -- have seen saved many goals under the goal by that player.

Thank you in advance

Sabre

by **bigmick** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:41 am

Sabre wrote:Hey guys, a question of tactics that I don't get and doesn't deserve a new thread:

Why do English teams traditionally defend the corners with ONE man in the second post, instead of two? I mean I don't know if that has changed, since I have seen a couple of teams putting two men defending the corner in the goalie, but that is not what it was usual.
---------------
| |
-----------------------------------------------
Corner Goalie X English defender
kick

That's to say, we put one X in the first, and another in the second. English used to put just one in the second, is it still that way? what is Reina commanding to do? (didn't realize last match)

A friend of mine says that the first man in the post just quits visibility to the goalie, but I don't agree -- have seen saved many goals under the goal by that player.

Thank you in advance

Sabre

It's an interesting point Sabre. Actually the premise of the question that English teams "traditionally" defend only the second post isn't quite correct. The reality is that some Premiership teams don't defend either post, some one and some two.
The theory for defending posts is obvious to all, a man standing there can clear any goalbound effort providing it doesn't arrive too high for him to reach.
The theories against are a touch more complex. Say the ball arrives too high for said defender to clear, then it will be a goal. However, would the goalkeeper have been able to get accross and save it if his own man wasn't standing in the way? If the ball arrives above waist hieght and to one side of the defender, he almost always handles it. You lose a goal and the defender is sent off. If you opt for men on the post, you increase the chances of the ball flying into the net and the keeper and defenders looking at each other, "I thought you were going for it" etc etc.
My favoured policy? Defend both posts.

by **MilitiaRusher** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:03 pm

meelan#5, aren't you gonna support Aston Villa?

by **Adebisi** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:23 pm

Someone pointed out that its early in the season, most players are at peak fitness after the summer meaning nothing is given away, players are'nt making many mistakes.
Other factors like new players gelling with the team are the reason we are seeing so many 0-0 and 1-1's
Come November the league will get a bit better and more exciting

(I hope!)

by **109-1093441336** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:00 pm

MilitiaRusher wrote:meelan#5, aren't you gonna support Aston Villa?

why?

My name is Meelanovic Raronkovic and the five means we won CL five times.

back hand.

by **1234ram** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:19 pm

rubbish game footy manager the best

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