ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:07 am wrote:We were miles short last season, those cup runs papered over a lot of cracks, even with Jurgen at the helm we saw plenty of terrible league performances but people took it on the chin because they thought there would be major changes in the summer.
If we are to realistically challenge for the top 4 this squad of players needs a radical overhaul, tinkering around the edges by selling one or two and bringing in one or two isn't going to be enough. Not unless those players coming in are top, top quality but that doesn't seem to be happening.
I don't care how good the manager is if we still have the likes of Henderson, Allen and Milner running around our midfield next season then we are going to be finishing with the also rans again. The squad we currently have just aren't consistent enough, we all know the script - 2 or 3 good performances followed by a total capitulation against a Watford or Palace type side that we should really be beating and then rinse and repeat for 9 months.
We are going to have 60,000 gates next year with fans paying 4 or 5 times more for a ticket than what the likes of Bayern Munich fans do, surely for a club of our size a few decent players is not too much to ask.
johnbarnes » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:43 pm wrote:I just hope that we sign quality players this summer.
We don't need big names or ego's just quality.
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FSG's concept of signing young top quality talent has gone KAPOOT!
We need to widen the compass and sign quality!
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Payet is a great example. We were probably offered him as too many other PL clubs. But it was WH who signed him - NOW LOOK!
The players are out there, but our scouting system has been wrong for many seasons.
I hope JK corrects this, starting this summer.
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We don't need to spend lots of cash...
WE JUST NEED TO SIGN QUALITY - REGARDLESS OF AGE!
Doeboy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:40 pm wrote:johnbarnes » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:43 pm wrote:I just hope that we sign quality players this summer.
We don't need big names or ego's just quality.
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FSG's concept of signing young top quality talent has gone KAPOOT!
We need to widen the compass and sign quality!
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Payet is a great example. We were probably offered him as too many other PL clubs. But it was WH who signed him - NOW LOOK!
The players are out there, but our scouting system has been wrong for many seasons.
I hope JK corrects this, starting this summer.
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We don't need to spend lots of cash...
WE JUST NEED TO SIGN QUALITY - REGARDLESS OF AGE!
Good post mate. Spot on about not neccessirly bringing in names but just good players and working with them.
I was watching the England game today and was thinking of the fullbacks Walker and Rose. I would have never have thought these two would be starting for England a few years ago as they were distinctly poor/average at best. But to be fair both looked very good. But they havent just magically become decent players overnight. Its down to Pochettino at spurs improving them and bringing their games on. If it wernt for him, I'd say both those would be on a beach somewhere on their summmer holidays.
Now who's to say Klopp can't have the same effect on some of our players? He did it at Dortmund so has already shown he can do it. Remember he hasn't even had a preseason yet with our players. I think a lot of people still have bad memories of our time under Rodgers. Rodgers was never the type to bring out improvement in individual players in my opinion. Klopp is and I think a lot of people are maybe missing this point.
I'm quite happy for Klopp to bring in players he wants who may not be the big names we crave, but I'm quietly confident he can bring their games on to make them quality players.
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:14 pm wrote:After paying £50m less than 12 months ago City would still want £35m+ for him. He's still only 21 as well so he's got a lot of footy left in him. Given the riches at their disposal though I wonder if it's worth putting in a sneaky loan bid for him? Like him or not he was an effective player for us who made good runs in behind defences.
devaney » Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:21 pm wrote:Yakka he had six decent months alongside Suarez who would make me look good !! The lad is a sh.it !! I wouldn't want him if he cost us nothing. Nasty little fkr !!! His decision making is still awful! His finishing and I didn't think this was possible has got worse !! Runs like a headless chicken !! Very limited player !! We did incredibly well to sell him for nearly £50m. Good riddance !! HE GOT BOOED BY THE FANS OF ENGLAND AND EVERY PREMIERSHIP CLUB FOR GOOD REASON !!
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