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Now we've brought in a new CB a new keeper should be next on our list, I know one or two disagree but I honestly believe that having a calming influence at the back would improve us immeasurably. It's got to the stage now with Mingolet that even when he's having a decent game everyone is still expecting him to drop a clanger and the fact that we are still talking about the same issue's 3 years in says everything.
We need someone between the sticks who wins us points not costs us them.
I know he makes some great saves but all keepers do, I watched the Boro keeper last night on the telly make an unbelievable save against Leeds.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:44 am wrote:Now we've brought in a new CB a new keeper should be next on our list, I know one or two disagree but I honestly believe that having a calming influence at the back would improve us immeasurably. It's got to the stage now with Mingolet that even when he's having a decent game everyone is still expecting him to drop a clanger and the fact that we are still talking about the same issue's 3 years in says everything.
We need someone between the sticks who wins us points not costs us them.
I know he makes some great saves but all keepers do, I watched the Boro keeper last night on the telly make an unbelievable save against Leeds.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:44 am wrote:Now we've brought in a new CB a new keeper should be next on our list, I know one or two disagree but I honestly believe that having a calming influence at the back would improve us immeasurably. It's got to the stage now with Mingolet that even when he's having a decent game everyone is still expecting him to drop a clanger and the fact that we are still talking about the same issue's 3 years in says everything.
We need someone between the sticks who wins us points not costs us them.
I know he makes some great saves but all keepers do, I watched the Boro keeper last night on the telly make an unbelievable save against Leeds.

Kasper Schmeichel is worth how many points to Leicester this year? I don't know, but a lot.

Every time I watch De Gea play, I think if united had anybody other than maybe him or Schmeichel, they'd be bottom half of the table. He completely kept them in the game against Sunderland and they still lost.

Getting a keeper who can consistently save you points is becoming more and more rare, and so more and more valuable. Bogdan clearly isn't the answer for us, so we should be looking come this summer.

ethanr » Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:57 am wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:44 am wrote:Now we've brought in a new CB a new keeper should be next on our list, I know one or two disagree but I honestly believe that having a calming influence at the back would improve us immeasurably. It's got to the stage now with Mingolet that even when he's having a decent game everyone is still expecting him to drop a clanger and the fact that we are still talking about the same issue's 3 years in says everything.
We need someone between the sticks who wins us points not costs us them.
I know he makes some great saves but all keepers do, I watched the Boro keeper last night on the telly make an unbelievable save against Leeds.

Kasper Schmeichel is worth how many points to Leicester this year? I don't know, but a lot.

Every time I watch De Gea play, I think if united had anybody other than maybe him or Schmeichel, they'd be bottom half of the table. He completely kept them in the game against Sunderland and they still lost.

Getting a keeper who can consistently save you points is becoming more and more rare, and so more and more valuable. Bogdan clearly isn't the answer for us, so we should be looking come this summer.

Yeah De Gea is the ultimate example really mate, he makes Uniteds back 4 look better than they really are, the likes of Smalling gets plenty of praise but De Gea probably saves 2 or 3 one on ones every game.
I'd say United's defence gifts the opposition twice as many clear cut chances as ours but because of the keepers our back 4 is labelled dodgy and theirs rock solid.

Klopp just said that matip has saved LFC millions and that he is a quality defender that only the top 4 in Bundesliga could afford. I hope so!

Well, you can't go wrong when he's on a free! Though i get the feeling that money isn't the factor when it comes to Klopp. According to JK, he already had his eye on Matip even when he was on his break, so to get him for free is a complete bonus. Hopefully he will add that much needed height and solidity we need when it comes to defending set pieces and corners.

It wasn't really a surprise for me at all. I mean, if you were in Klopp's place, you'd do exactly the same thing. And I agree with what alyx just said. Joel's in his best form. He's tall and strong, no need to mention just from the Bundesliga. If all that came with a zero fee, why not?

Now that he will be part of the LFC, let's all expect the unexpected. I think he is qualified enough so I like to congratulate him already.

Great job Joel and welcome to LFC.

I think whether he will come good is maybe not the question, most think he will. The question is with him, we will have 5 centrebacks (6 if you count Ilori) in our squad. Assuming he starts, that leaves Sakho, Skrtel, Lovren and Kolo to fight it out for the last spot. I think Kolo staying on should be a given, as he's willing to wait on the bench for his chance. And when he does come on when needed (like these few games), he's shown he has the experience to carry us through. But I cannot see the other 3 being content to be bench warmers. I guess at least 1 will have to go. So question is: who would we want it to be? My pick would be Lovren. I don't think he's shown enough to leave him ahead of the other 2, and he's so far the more error prone of them all.

Having said that though, I would be happy if we managed to keep all of them

alxy » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:00 am wrote:I think whether he will come good is maybe not the question, most think he will. The question is with him, we will have 5 centrebacks (6 if you count Ilori) in our squad. Assuming he starts, that leaves Sakho, Skrtel, Lovren and Kolo to fight it out for the last spot. I think Kolo staying on should be a given, as he's willing to wait on the bench for his chance. And when he does come on when needed (like these few games), he's shown he has the experience to carry us through. But I cannot see the other 3 being content to be bench warmers. I guess at least 1 will have to go. So question is: who would we want it to be? My pick would be Lovren. I don't think he's shown enough to leave him ahead of the other 2, and he's so far the more error prone of them all.

Having said that though, I would be happy if we managed to keep all of them

Kolo's contract runs out in the summer and apparently we are not going to offer him a new one. Tbh it wouldn't surprise me if we shipped another one out either.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:10 am wrote:

alxy » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:00 am wrote:I think whether he will come good is maybe not the question, most think he will. The question is with him, we will have 5 centrebacks (6 if you count Ilori) in our squad. Assuming he starts, that leaves Sakho, Skrtel, Lovren and Kolo to fight it out for the last spot. I think Kolo staying on should be a given, as he's willing to wait on the bench for his chance. And when he does come on when needed (like these few games), he's shown he has the experience to carry us through. But I cannot see the other 3 being content to be bench warmers. I guess at least 1 will have to go. So question is: who would we want it to be? My pick would be Lovren. I don't think he's shown enough to leave him ahead of the other 2, and he's so far the more error prone of them all.

Having said that though, I would be happy if we managed to keep all of them

Kolo's contract runs out in the summer and apparently we are not going to offer him a new one. Tbh it wouldn't surprise me if we shipped another one out either.

Yea, looks likely it will be Kolo out + another one of the 3...

Poor mistake against Shaktar yesterday. He had a Skyrtel/ Lovren/Sakho moment

Lets hope he leaves those mistakes in Germany. :-p

That was a bad mistake.

But Shakhtar capitalised on it well. He might have got away with it on another day.

Better get it out of your system before you come here lad!

Its now Officially official!

http://www.empireofthekop.com/2016/07/0 ... a-signing/?