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Nothing to do with price tag. When I'm criticising him, I'm not thinking about what we've paid for him. It's just to do with wether he is contributing or not.

Penguins » Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:30 pm wrote:Maybe half the price would had been close to reasonable, but since when do lfc do reasonable   :)

Right now at his current form he isn't worth 1m..He is the invisible man....I would rather have a player which gets everything wrong then one that hides from the game.

And yet it was his impressive assist that created the winning goal against Leicester !! He has been incredibly disappointing apart from that and a decent performance against City. Hopefully he will get better. It took Ozil a while and look at him now. He must have something when you look at his stats in Germany.

He's showing very very little to suggest he'll turn it around. He only seems to show up when sides give him the space and time to do what he wants on the ball. Only 1 or 2 sides have been naive enough to leave such spaces against us or anyone else for that matter. Ozil is supremely talented, so are the likes of Depay, Di Maria, Hazard, etc. who might struggle for form but their quality shows -at least in glimpses- when they're on the pitch. I havent seen enough of that from Firmino to suggest he'll turn into a world beater when he's on form. Best case scenario, he'll turn into a L.Garcia kind of player for us, but he'll need to offer more of a goal threat to reach that level; doesnt have the same flair our little Spaniard had.

aCe' » Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:40 pm wrote:He's showing very very little to suggest he'll turn it around. He only seems to show up when sides give him the space and time to do what he wants on the ball. Only 1 or 2 sides have been naive enough to leave such spaces against us or anyone else for that matter. Ozil is supremely talented, so are the likes of Depay, Di Maria, Hazard, etc. who might struggle for form but their quality shows -at least in glimpses- when they're on the pitch. I havent seen enough of that from Firmino to suggest he'll turn into a world beater when he's on form. Best case scenario, he'll turn into a L.Garcia kind of player for us, but he'll need to offer more of a goal threat to reach that level; doesnt have the same flair our little Spaniard had.

He does look an awful buy atm (especially for £29m) but he wouldn't be the first player that needed a bit of time to settle at a club, hopefully he'll come good during the second half of the season.

Brazilians ,struggle in this league ,and unless your blessed with a hunger and  appetite such as Suarez then  the pace of our game is a huge adjustment to South Americans.
I mean even Willian never found his game until his second season with Chelsea and look at how much he contributed to that title win. I'd say 'arguably' along with Hazard and Costa from an attacking stand point he was possibly one of their most influential players.

Patience is key in developing Firmino ,and playing to his strengths is vital if we really hope to include the artistry we know he can bring to this team.

Thought he looked a bit lightweight again but to be fair to the lad he hit the post and should have had two assists, Ibe should have hit his shot first time instead of trying to come inside on his favoured right peg and Benteke blew another one on one after Firmino put him clean through.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:15 am wrote:Thought he looked a bit lightweight again but to be fair to the lad he hit the post and should have had two assists, Ibe should have hit his shot first time instead of trying to come inside on his favoured right peg and Benteke blew another one on one after Firmino put him clean through.

I thought he was terrible. Offered us pretty much nothing and for large parts of the game Coutinho was actually taking up his space because he wasnt showing for the ball enough. Again, he continued to lose the ball too easily and miss simple passes.

I think we need to drop him for a game or two and give the likes of Ibe and Teixeira a chance to stake a claim.

Also, if we want to continue playing the 4-2-3-1, we might want to consider bringing in a player -or recalling Markovic if possible- in January to give us more options in the 3 AM spots.

aCe' » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:29 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:15 am wrote:Thought he looked a bit lightweight again but to be fair to the lad he hit the post and should have had two assists, Ibe should have hit his shot first time instead of trying to come inside on his favoured right peg and Benteke blew another one on one after Firmino put him clean through.

I thought he was terrible. Offered us pretty much nothing and for large parts of the game Coutinho was actually taking up his space because he wasnt showing for the ball enough. Again, he continued to lose the ball too easily and miss simple passes.

I think we need to drop him for a game or two and give the likes of Ibe and Teixeira a chance to stake a claim.

Also, if we want to continue playing the 4-2-3-1, we might want to consider bringing in a player -or recalling Markovic if possible- in January to give us more options in the 3 AM spots.

Pretty much agree with that Ace except I'd rather see what tex can do because ibe hasn't a clue where the net is.

i think we need to fully judge him base on his second season performance,
the epl is not a easy league to adapt as first.

There is a player there in Firmino, I just feel our set up is not right for him.

redshade » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:29 pm wrote:I felt he did okay tonight.

Effort wise he did great but he isn't paid just to run....Should really do much much better in passing and shooting.