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SouthCoastShankly » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:23 pm wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:11 pm wrote:http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/487691/Barcelona-set-to-announce-58m-Luis-Suarez-deal-after-negotiating-12m-DISCOUNT

Barcelona set to announce £58m Luis Suarez deal after negotiating £12m DISCOUNT

BARCELONA are set to announce today that they have agreed a £58m deal to sign Luis Suarez from Liverpool.

Reports in Spain suggest that the agreement is for a straight cash deal and will not involve any players heading to Anfield in part-exchange.

Suarez reportedly had a buy-out fee for foreign clubs of £70m but Barcelona have been able to negotiate a significant discount on that price.

Liverpool's hand was seemingly somewhat forced not only by the scandal - and subsequent ban - after Suarez bit Giorgio Chiellini, but also by the Uruguayan's wish to make the move.

Indeed, it is suggested that Suarez has stayed in Uruguay after the World Cup in the full expectation that he would be making a move to Barca ahead of next season


I can live with losing our finest player just ,but to lose him to these Spanish cuntz with such a derisory offer is hard to take    Really hope its *****.

IF, and I say if because this is the Express FFS, it is a discount based on 100% cash that may not be the worst thing in the world.

I suspect that we have played hardball on the fee and in return Barcelona have offered a long payment plan, ie 3-5 seasons. It could be that they have returned to the negotiating table by saying they'll pay 100% cash if it is less.

Not an unusual tactic at all.

We would get £60M to spend now, as opposed to £25M say. Bear in mind that if a payment plan over multiple seasons is agreed it doesn't mean you get the agreed transfer fee to spend immediately.

Nah, I don't buy that at all, if we sell him for less than the fee stipulated in the buyout clause then we must be fvcking soft.
It sounds like Barcelona are playing on the fact that Luis desperately wants to sign for them, they are just trying it on.

We don't hold all the cards though. It's widely reported that Suarez has a release clause, that will mean that Barcelona can have him assuming they meet the clause value, agree personal terms with the player and agree a payment method to us.

Of course we can say 100% cash or no deal, but the reality of the situation is that is an unlikely outcome. Most transfers are fee agreed and payment terms over 2-3 seasons, typically with a larger down payment in year 1.

So it seem the choices on the table are to accept the full fee over 2-3 seasons, significantly reducing our spending power this season. Remember with FFPR tightening their grip, we are unable to spend more than we receive.

Or alternatively accept a lower transfer fee in one cash payment. The benefit of this system would be immediate funds greater than the first option. It could be the buying power difference of £30M or £60M this year.

The club will be doing a cost/benefit analysis to determine the best course of action but I would suspect we would look to maximise spending this summer so as to ensure our top 4 status. A flow of cash for the next 2-3 seasons is of no use to us if we fail to secure top 4 again this season.

SouthCoastShankly » Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:48 pm wrote:We don't hold all the cards though. It's widely reported that Suarez has a release clause, that will mean that Barcelona can have him assuming they meet the clause value, agree personal terms with the player and agree a payment method to us.

Of course we can say 100% cash or no deal, but the reality of the situation is that is an unlikely outcome. Most transfers are fee agreed and payment terms over 2-3 seasons, typically with a larger down payment in year 1.

So it seem the choices on the table are to accept the full fee over 2-3 seasons, significantly reducing our spending power this season. Remember with FFPR tightening their grip, we are unable to spend more than we receive.

Or alternatively accept a lower transfer fee in one cash payment. The benefit of this system would be immediate funds greater than the first option. It could be the buying power difference of £30M or £60M this year.

The club will be doing a cost/benefit analysis to determine the best course of action but I would suspect we would look to maximise spending this summer so as to ensure our top 4 status. A flow of cash for the next 2-3 seasons is of no use to us if we fail to secure top 4 again this season.

Whatever way you look at the situation ,it's Barcelona that want Suarez ,I'm pretty sure if we played hard ball with these arrogant Spanish cuntz
they would soon come running.

SouthCoastShankly » Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:48 pm wrote:We don't hold all the cards though. It's widely reported that Suarez has a release clause, that will mean that Barcelona can have him assuming they meet the clause value, agree personal terms with the player and agree a payment method to us.

Of course we can say 100% cash or no deal, but the reality of the situation is that is an unlikely outcome. Most transfers are fee agreed and payment terms over 2-3 seasons, typically with a larger down payment in year 1.

So it seem the choices on the table are to accept the full fee over 2-3 seasons, significantly reducing our spending power this season. Remember with FFPR tightening their grip, we are unable to spend more than we receive.

Or alternatively accept a lower transfer fee in one cash payment. The benefit of this system would be immediate funds greater than the first option. It could be the buying power difference of £30M or £60M this year.

The club will be doing a cost/benefit analysis to determine the best course of action but I would suspect we would look to maximise spending this summer so as to ensure our top 4 status. A flow of cash for the next 2-3 seasons is of no use to us if we fail to secure top 4 again this season.

But paying in instalments is how football clubs have always worked, you can still spend the money on transfers.
Real Madrid and Barcelona have been stitching us up for years and it looks like we can now add the Suarez transfer to that long list, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up at £40m and we get a load of their deadwood too, that's what usually happens.
If we get shafted here FSG need to have a serious look at how we conduct our transfer business, we can't get deals done when we are trying to sign players and now by the looks of it we can't even get the right money for one of the best players in the world even when it's written into a contract.
Tbh I don't believe this is true, not even we are that soft.

We're gonna get shafted I reckon, but we just have to wait and see til there's something more concrete

il be cracking up if we dont get the reported release clause of between £70- £80 million.
surely its us who holds the cards and most importantly the players contract. they can't afford to not bring in their targeted players this window as they might not have another one for a while.

I really do fear for us here ,I think Ayre will be getting severely dicked by these dodgy fuckerz .

As I said a few posts earlier..... think we will be lucky to get the £70 -80m reported.

Can see the 58m being about right - given Barca's history and current situation re:bite.

58m 

Why have we not walked away from these clowns.

And they just sold Sanchez for 34m? So they are essentially getting Suarez for 24m+Sanchez!!!! Ayre you inept f**k you better get this right.

They don't want to pay top dollar, f**k off then........

FORF UCKSSAKE!!! I hope this is wrong. Why can't we just hold fast to the "He's not for sale unless you can afford to pay the full whack up front" stance? Why do we have to accept their fvcking terms?
I shouldn't have read this just before going to bed!
Going to sleep this p1ssed off can only result in a bad day tomorrow.
I'll have to go and kick the dog before bed.
Bloody typical.
Cheers Luis, you cnut.
After all the support and backing he received from the club and fans, he has certainly got his revenge for not being allowed to go last season.
Hope he enjoys playing third fiddle to Messi and Neymar.
Actually no, I hope he falls down the stairs and knocks all his bleeding teeth out.

Suarez for £58M you fucking kidding me right? Might as well put the club up for sale at £200M while you're at it Ayre...I hoped these are just rumours and you do indeed grew some balls because we don't need a CEO to "negotiate" that my granny could get us a better deal 

Suarez appeal has failed apparently. Length of ban remains the same

Santa » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:10 pm wrote:Suarez for £58M you fucking kidding me right? Might as well put the club up for sale at £200M while you're at it Ayre...I hoped these are just rumours and you do indeed grew some balls because we don't need a CEO to "negotiate" that my granny could get us a better deal 

Daily Mirror site is reporting we are still holding out for 75 million which could also be a load of made up tosh.

Don't see the point of getting blood boiling over budgie cage litter tabloid rubbish.
Im sure there will plenty of time for that after official announcement

I may be in a minority here, but if the fee is 58 million I am happy.

Firstly we get the cash up front which can be used to strengthen. If the money is reinvested we can get hold of two more marquee signings.

Secondly, it is 12 million more than twice what we paid for him. Good business regardless of his perceived actual value.

Thirdly there is every chance he will do something else stupid in the future devaluing him more.

Fourth and finally. I actually feel getting rid of him will help Sturridge. Let's make him the main man and see him go. We know he is capable of 30 goals a season. The balance of the side will change as we won't have to accommodate Suarez so we will Coutinho, sterling and the other attacking players being used better.

Luis Suarez: Bite ban appeal rejected by Fifa

Fifa has rejected Uruguay and Liverpool striker Luis Suarez's appeal against a four-month ban from all football-related activities for biting Italy's Giorgio Chiellini.

Suarez was also banned for nine international matches after the incident at the World Cup in Brazil.

The Uruguayan FA had described Fifa's ruling as an "excessive decision" for which "there was not enough evidence".

Suarez can now make a further appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.