Liverpool FC Forum

RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri May 18, 2012 3:57 pm wrote:

7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 3:51 pm wrote:Redbeergoggles, it matters little if you believe me or not, i still go to work each day and travel the world to write for a living. I would ask what you do; but the difference is i don't care. That's the difference.

Sorry it gripes you so much, why don't you abuse our chairman some more via twitter to make you feel better about yourself.

Do you write for the Viz mate ? 

heimdall » Fri May 18, 2012 4:09 pm wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri May 18, 2012 3:57 pm wrote:

7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 3:51 pm wrote:Redbeergoggles, it matters little if you believe me or not, i still go to work each day and travel the world to write for a living. I would ask what you do; but the difference is i don't care. That's the difference.

Sorry it gripes you so much, why don't you abuse our chairman some more via twitter to make you feel better about yourself.

Do you write for the Viz mate ? 

lakes10 » Fri May 18, 2012 4:30 pm wrote:


my old teacher Neil Nixon writes for them, he also used me and my mates for a bit he did in Brain damage mag lol

RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri May 18, 2012 5:34 pm wrote:

lakes10 » Fri May 18, 2012 4:30 pm wrote:


my old teacher Neil Nixon writes for them, he also used me and my mates for a bit he did in Brain damage mag lol

The Pink Floyd fanzine  ? Or the Graffiti mag mate ?

lakes10 » Fri May 18, 2012 4:39 pm wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri May 18, 2012 5:34 pm wrote:

lakes10 » Fri May 18, 2012 4:30 pm wrote:


my old teacher Neil Nixon writes for them, he also used me and my mates for a bit he did in Brain damage mag lol

The Pink Floyd fanzine  ? Or the Graffiti mag mate ?

Brain damage mag come out in about 89 i think.I was meant to be better than VIZ but did not last that long, the big pink stiff one come out that year and Brain damage could not keep up.

lakes10 » Fri May 18, 2012 4:51 pm wrote:here you go mate.



it was very good, it was stuff like Elvis is still alive and working as a milkman and stuff like that.

Boxscarf » Fri May 18, 2012 12:08 pm wrote:Pep Guardiola's career could easily go the same route that Frank Rijkaard's managerial career has gone. Whenever there is a vacant managerial position at one of the top clubs in Europe, Frank's name never gets a mention. Pep Guardiola appointed as our manager would be a risk, because when he went to Barcelona all the things were in place to create something special. At Liverpool he won't have that luxury and it appears he won't have much time to get to grips with life in England and the Barclay's Premier League, if Kenny's first and only season is anything to go by!

Thommo's perm » Fri May 18, 2012 8:04 pm wrote:I have been feeling bad, low, down, since we got the news that KK had been sacked. I have honestly took it badly, but why shouldnt I? He has been part of my life since I was a teenager. He has brought me more pleasure than anyone except my closest family. He has made me laugh and cry, feel great and awful. He has been a constant except when he left us, which was the only time I fell out with him and thought I hated him. But I didnt really because how could I? He was King Kenny, the reddest Red of them all. Player, Player/Manager, Manager, boy to man, Hero to Legend.
And now he's gone, never to return. It is like a death and I am grieving. For those who think I am being dramatic and over-reacting please go and fu'ck yourself because I dont give a sh'it. If you have been supporting LFC as long as I have and been through the highs and lows as I have you will understand what I mean. If you dont, you will never know, so dont let it concern you.
KK came back to save the club he loves and did just that. The problem was that the owners seen him as a threat and a problem, but they had no choice except to give him the job he had wanted for years. The fans won and KK was reinstated. Only problem was he was on sinking sand to begin with. The players he brought in and the money he spent, the teams he selected, the woodwork wierdness, the evra affair, the fa, the media, the lack of support from FSG, the lack of passion, spirit and loyalty from the players, the oppositions goalies giving world class performances: on and on the list went. Add on to this his tunnel vision, stubborness and media unfriendliness it was a recipe for disaster from the start. In reality KK was never going to last until next season because he had to go under the new regimes philosophy. I called it absolutely wrong because I was thinking with my heart instead of my head. Could he have survived if he had done things differently? He wouldnt have done things differently because thats not his way. He is what he is, love him or hate him, what you see is what you get. Like it or lump it. I love him, so Im not going to lump it.
Here are the 7 stages of grief. I think Im on number 3:

1. SHOCK & DENIAL- You will probably react to learning of the loss with numbed disbelief. You may deny the reality of the loss at some level, in order to avoid the pain. Shock provides emotional protection from being overwhelmed all at once. This may last for weeks.

2. PAIN & GUILT- As the shock wears off, it is replaced with the suffering of unbelievable pain. Although excruciating and almost unbearable, it is important that you experience the pain fully, and not hide it, avoid it or escape from it with alcohol or drugs. You may have guilty feelings or remorse over things you did or didn't do with your loved one. Life feels chaotic and scary during this phase.

3. ANGER & BARGAINING- Frustration gives way to anger, and you may lash out and lay unwarranted blame for the death on someone else. Please try to control this, as permanent damage to your relationships may result. This is a time for the release of bottled up emotion. You may rail against fate, questioning "Why me?" You may also try to bargain in vain with the powers that be for a way out of your despair ("I will never drink again if you just bring him back")

4. "DEPRESSION", REFLECTION, LONELINESS- Just when your friends may think you should be getting on with your life, a long period of sad reflection will likely overtake you. This is a normal stage of grief, so do not be "talked out of it" by well-meaning outsiders. Encouragement from others is not helpful to you during this stage of grieving. During this time, you finally realize the true magnitude of your loss, and it depresses you. You may isolate yourself on purpose, reflect on things you did with your lost one, and focus on memories of the past. You may sense feelings of emptiness or despair.

5. THE UPWARD TURN- As you start to adjust to life without your dear one, your life becomes a little calmer and more organized. Your physical symptoms lessen, and your "depression" begins to lift slightly.

6. RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH- As you become more functional, your mind starts working again, and you will find yourself seeking realistic solutions to problems posed by life without your loved one. You will start to work on practical and financial problems and reconstructing yourself and your life without him or her.

7. ACCEPTANCE & HOPE- During this, the last of the seven stages in this grief model, you learn to accept and deal with the reality of your situation. Acceptance does not necessarily mean instant happiness. Given the pain and turmoil you have experienced, you can never return to the carefree, untroubled YOU that existed before this tragedy. But you will find a way forward.

lakes10 » Fri May 18, 2012 8:10 pm wrote:

Thommo's perm » Fri May 18, 2012 8:04 pm wrote:I have been feeling bad, low, down, since we got the news that KK had been sacked. I have honestly took it badly, but why shouldnt I? He has been part of my life since I was a teenager. He has brought me more pleasure than anyone except my closest family. He has made me laugh and cry, feel great and awful. He has been a constant except when he left us, which was the only time I fell out with him and thought I hated him. But I didnt really because how could I? He was King Kenny, the reddest Red of them all. Player, Player/Manager, Manager, boy to man, Hero to Legend.
And now he's gone, never to return. It is like a death and I am grieving. For those who think I am being dramatic and over-reacting please go and fu'ck yourself because I dont give a sh'it. If you have been supporting LFC as long as I have and been through the highs and lows as I have you will understand what I mean. If you dont, you will never know, so dont let it concern you.
KK came back to save the club he loves and did just that. The problem was that the owners seen him as a threat and a problem, but they had no choice except to give him the job he had wanted for years. The fans won and KK was reinstated. Only problem was he was on sinking sand to begin with. The players he brought in and the money he spent, the teams he selected, the woodwork wierdness, the evra affair, the fa, the media, the lack of support from FSG, the lack of passion, spirit and loyalty from the players, the oppositions goalies giving world class performances: on and on the list went. Add on to this his tunnel vision, stubborness and media unfriendliness it was a recipe for disaster from the start. In reality KK was never going to last until next season because he had to go under the new regimes philosophy. I called it absolutely wrong because I was thinking with my heart instead of my head. Could he have survived if he had done things differently? He wouldnt have done things differently because thats not his way. He is what he is, love him or hate him, what you see is what you get. Like it or lump it. I love him, so Im not going to lump it.
Here are the 7 stages of grief. I think Im on number 3:

1. SHOCK & DENIAL- You will probably react to learning of the loss with numbed disbelief. You may deny the reality of the loss at some level, in order to avoid the pain. Shock provides emotional protection from being overwhelmed all at once. This may last for weeks.

2. PAIN & GUILT- As the shock wears off, it is replaced with the suffering of unbelievable pain. Although excruciating and almost unbearable, it is important that you experience the pain fully, and not hide it, avoid it or escape from it with alcohol or drugs. You may have guilty feelings or remorse over things you did or didn't do with your loved one. Life feels chaotic and scary during this phase.

3. ANGER & BARGAINING- Frustration gives way to anger, and you may lash out and lay unwarranted blame for the death on someone else. Please try to control this, as permanent damage to your relationships may result. This is a time for the release of bottled up emotion. You may rail against fate, questioning "Why me?" You may also try to bargain in vain with the powers that be for a way out of your despair ("I will never drink again if you just bring him back")

4. "DEPRESSION", REFLECTION, LONELINESS- Just when your friends may think you should be getting on with your life, a long period of sad reflection will likely overtake you. This is a normal stage of grief, so do not be "talked out of it" by well-meaning outsiders. Encouragement from others is not helpful to you during this stage of grieving. During this time, you finally realize the true magnitude of your loss, and it depresses you. You may isolate yourself on purpose, reflect on things you did with your lost one, and focus on memories of the past. You may sense feelings of emptiness or despair.

5. THE UPWARD TURN- As you start to adjust to life without your dear one, your life becomes a little calmer and more organized. Your physical symptoms lessen, and your "depression" begins to lift slightly.

6. RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH- As you become more functional, your mind starts working again, and you will find yourself seeking realistic solutions to problems posed by life without your loved one. You will start to work on practical and financial problems and reconstructing yourself and your life without him or her.

7. ACCEPTANCE & HOPE- During this, the last of the seven stages in this grief model, you learn to accept and deal with the reality of your situation. Acceptance does not necessarily mean instant happiness. Given the pain and turmoil you have experienced, you can never return to the carefree, untroubled YOU that existed before this tragedy. But you will find a way forward.

well if you are stuck on number 3 then come on my next course.......but you will have to share the room with 3 murderers.

heres the outline lol

3. Content:  What will the course cover?

What is Anger
Beliefs about Anger
Role play
Giving and receiving criticism
What Role Guilt plays in Anger
How to Identify your Anger triggers

4. Achievement:  What can I expect to achieve?

By the end of the course, you should be able to:

1. Recognise your irrational beliefs and identify your anger triggers.
2. identify  recognise warning signs in mind and body

3. Identify ways to eliminate stressful situations
4. demonstrate how a stress management plan can be put into place avoiding moving into the state of anger
5. identify how Guilt plays a big roll in Anger

lakes10 » Fri May 18, 2012 8:33 pm wrote:lol, its set up to get them talking, then io tell the that they are acting like babies and we take it from there.......and thats the truth lol
its all based on CBT.