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RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed May 16, 2012 6:56 pm wrote:FSG can go f*ck themselves now ,wouldnt ***** on the fucking two faced cuntz if they were on fire .Well and truly bent over for the media
What a cowardly way to pay the fans who got rid of Hicks and the other worm back .

Absolutely fuming with the decision , couldn't believe it when I heard it ,lost all respect for these cretins .
f*ck THEM ALL !!!!!!

Only way for them to gain our trust again if they get it right this summer

RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed May 16, 2012 6:56 pm wrote:FSG can go f*ck themselves now ,wouldnt ***** on the fucking two faced cuntz if they were on fire .Well and truly bent over for the media
What a cowardly way to pay the fans who got rid of Hicks and the other worm back .

Absolutely fuming with the decision , couldn't believe it when I heard it ,lost all respect for these cretins .
f*ck THEM ALL !!!!!!

Except that the form from the New Year onwards was relegation form there's no getting away from that. I share your frustration but I think this decision was inevitable.

RedSi35 » Wed May 16, 2012 6:57 pm wrote:So here we are again.


What happened to stability????

It disappeared around the same time all these impatient pathetic whining fucking so called fans came to fucking light
Boxtart and DC just two soul destroying examples that have been allowed to fester and excrete with distasteful regularity their
fucking tiresome droning fucking dirge.

If ever their was a time to use the phrase "Heart says no but Head says Yes", for me that sums up how I feel. 

To call this a terrible decision at this point is very easy to do for alot of people.  I'd just add that we have no idea if the decision is a poor one or a great one.  It all depends on what FSG do next that will lead to the verdict on their choice of making a managerial change.

Having said that, I am f*cking gutted and really wanted Kenny to be kept on.

RedSi35 » Wed May 16, 2012 7:57 pm wrote:So here we are again.

Another new manager who will need a season to bed in a new team, with new players and new tactics.

Another wasted season of "they need time to gel as a team" excuses.

What happened to stability????

it's a symptom of the short termism of football. everyone wants everything now. fans and owners always want more.

winning stuff (cups especially) essentially mean sod all now in the modern climate. 4th or higher is the holy grail. i happen to think that kenny would still have gone even if he had won the fa cup. it's a sad state of affairs.

gutted thought Kenny might of been given @ least another season some of the players he bought should  shoulder the blame for under per-forming we got beat in the FA cup then a couple days later beat chelsea in the league by a big margin he never asked for the job he was asked to be manger when we were in the sh@te....

People like Red Beergoggles are just way out of line. You might not like or agree with their decision to dispense of Kenny's services, but to come out with comments like that is disgraceful and shows that they care more about Kenny than our club. FSG are doing what they feel is right and they have clearly come to the conclusion that Kenny isn't the man to take us forward and rather than give him another season (which is the right thing to do) they feel a fresh approach is needed to take us forward. Whilst I do not like their decision, I can understand why they feel the way they do.

FSG are businessman first and foremost and Liverpool football club is an asset to them and evidently they care about their assets. Last season we finished 6th, over £50m of investment is used in the summer and a year later we finish two positions lower than before with the worst tally of points since the Premier League began in 1992. I can completely understand why they have chosen to end his stint as manager - that said they have set a dangerous precedent, they have sent the message that failure is not an option and no matter who you are in football, if you do not deliver the bare minimum in terms of expectations you're backside is turfed out. This is an admirable trait, it's a business trait, but it won't give us the stability we need and we cannot ever hope to achieve sustained long-term success with this method. If FSG want us to become the top dogs in England and Europe then they need to select a manager, back him to the hilt and watch this project grow and flourish. It's unfair on the next manager to expect him to take us from 8th to 4th next season, irrespective of the amount of investment. We need to show signs of improvement each season and gradually build that way.

My other concern is who on earth is going to be our next manager? It's easy to sack a manager, but it's not easy to replace them. I would love to see Benitez back here because I feel he has unfinished business, but how would he get on with the Owners? How would he cope with a Director of Football above him? If we go for Roberto Martinez then does he have what it takes to step up from Wigan to Liverpool? The same with Brendan Rogers and Paul Lambert? Are these managers one season wonders? I cannot for the life of me think who are next manager is going to be! Whoever it is they'll need to start showing signs of improvement as soon as possible and any minimum expectation of them must be met otherwise they'll more than likely be shown the door.

When our next manager comes in, it will be 4 managers in 4 seasons, such a rapid turn over leaves a sour taste in my mouth, so it is imperative that FSG get things sorted out as soon as possible. They've wielded their axe this year, but the real proof in the pudding will be the personnel selected as their replacements.

friendlyguy33 » Wed May 16, 2012 7:06 pm wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed May 16, 2012 6:56 pm wrote:FSG can go f*ck themselves now ,wouldnt ***** on the fucking two faced cuntz if they were on fire .Well and truly bent over for the media
What a cowardly way to pay the fans who got rid of Hicks and the other worm back .

Absolutely fuming with the decision , couldn't believe it when I heard it ,lost all respect for these cretins .
f*ck THEM ALL !!!!!!

Except that the form from the New Year onwards was relegation form there's no getting away from that. I share your frustration but I think this decision was inevitable.

You don't share my frustration ...You couldn't be further away from the truth if you had just fell out of Roswell you f*cking moaning blurt .

Boxscarf » Wed May 16, 2012 7:17 pm wrote:People like Red Beergoggles are just way out of line. You might not like or agree with their decision to dispense of Kenny's services, but to come out with comments like that is disgraceful and shows that they care more about Kenny than our club. FSG are doing what they feel is right and they have clearly come to the conclusion that Kenny isn't the man to take us forward and rather than give him another season (which is the right thing to do) they feel a fresh approach is needed to take us forward. Whilst I do not like their decision, I can understand why they feel the way they do.

FSG are businessman first and foremost and Liverpool football club is an asset to them and evidently they care about their assets. Last season we finished 6th, over £50m of investment is used in the summer and a year later we finish two positions lower than before with the worst tally of points since the Premier League began in 1992. I can completely understand why they have chosen to end his stint as manager - that said they have set a dangerous precedent, they have sent the message that failure is not an option and no matter who you are in football, if you do not deliver the bare minimum in terms of expectations you're backside is turfed out. This is an admirable trait, it's a business trait, but it won't give us the stability we need and we cannot ever hope to achieve sustained long-term success with this method. If FSG want us to become the top dogs in England and Europe then they need to select a manager, back him to the hilt and watch this project grow and flourish. It's unfair on the next manager to expect him to take us from 8th to 4th next season, irrespective of the amount of investment. We need to show signs of improvement each season and gradually build that way.


My other concern is who on earth is going to be our next manager? It's easy to sack a manager, but it's not easy to replace them. I would love to see Benitez back here because I feel he has unfinished business, but how would he get on with the Owners? How would he cope with a Director of Football above him? If we go for Roberto Martinez then does he have what it takes to step up from Wigan to Liverpool? The same with Brendan Rogers and Paul Lambert? Are these managers one season wonders? I cannot for the life of me think who are next manager is going to be! Whoever it is they'll need to start showing signs of improvement as soon as possible and any minimum expectation of them must be met otherwise they'll more than likely be shown the door.

When our next manager comes in, it will be 4 managers in 4 seasons, such a rapid turn over leaves a sour taste in my mouth, so it is imperative that FSG get things sorted out as soon as possible. They've wielded their axe this year, but the real proof in the pudding will the personnel selected as their replacements.

Our club ? don't make me laugh you fucking ***** ,go and support Chelsea they're probably of closer proximity anyway .

RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed May 16, 2012 7:10 pm wrote:
It disappeared around the same time all these impatient pathetic whining fucking so called fans came to fucking light
Boxtart and DC just two soul destroying examples that have been allowed to fester and excrete with distasteful regularity their
fucking tiresome droning fucking dirge.

Again you are ridiculing my name for no apparent reason. Never once this season did I call for Kenny's head, all I have done is question Kenny's decisions because I felt they have been poor decisions, I'm as gutted and as disappointed as the next supporter that Kenny has gone as I felt he warranted another season to really make some progress with us and right the wrongs of his first full season at the helm. Kenny made a lot of poor decisions this season which have cost us, he had a winning formula last season when we were beating the likes of Fulham 5-2, Birmingham 5-0 and he chose to rip that formula up and implement his own brand on the club and this season he came up short. He has to be held accountable for that and I don't feel it was wrong to launch a tirade of criticisms for what I perceive to be some monumental errors which can all be directly linked to the players we signed in the summer. Never once did I call for Kenny's head, so don't you dare insult me you petulant forum member.

RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed May 16, 2012 6:46 pm wrote:Absolutely devastated by the news ,just left this message for John Henry "Congratulations, you now have less credibility than Venky's "
once again you Yanks have seriously underestimated Liverpool and their supporters .

Never was the sharpest tool was you lad.

RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed May 16, 2012 7:22 pm wrote:
Our club ? don't make me laugh you fucking ***** ,go and support Chelsea they're probably of closer proximity anyway .

It is my club thank you very much. I have supported this club since the summer of 1995 and I have no desire to support anyone else, so get over yourself you pompous, petulant child. You're 30+ years of age and all you do is insult people and swear, you need to grow up. I know you're hurt by Kenny being sacked, but just remember who saved this club from going into administration, it was FSG, so show them some respect. They saved our football club from collapse.

neil » Wed May 16, 2012 7:25 pm wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed May 16, 2012 6:46 pm wrote:Absolutely devastated by the news ,just left this message for John Henry "Congratulations, you now have less credibility than Venky's "
once again you Yanks have seriously underestimated Liverpool and their supporters .

Never was the sharpest tool was you lad.

You can shut the fuck up as well ... and talking of appendages .

Something in me ceased in me today. Maybe it was the sense that at Liverpool Football Club we do things in as decent and dignified a way as possible given the cuthroat way that football has gone in the last 20 years.

Whatever you believe about Kenny Dalglish there is a man who lives, breathes and bleeds LFC and to be treated in such a disgraceful manner is beyond the pale. People will point to the League position forgetting all that Kenny has done to stabilise the club and get it out of it's precarious position. They will conveniently forget the achievements and point to a position on a league table, a spreadsheet in the boardroom and take the one eyed view on whether

Football has become Schizophrenic, on the one hand laying down platitudes and sounbites whilst wielding the dagger ready to plunge it into it's targets back at the first sign of trouble.

D_C, Boxscarf, Kewell and others have got what they wished for. I hope your happy because some no mark in America adopts your approach to the beautiful game and turns it ugly in an instant.

What a day , a day that a little bit of football died all for the sake of a few pieces of silver !

Walk on Kenny with your head held high and thank you for the unseen work you have done during your brief tenure. I'm sorry that those who only see the surface and a CL place don't approach things in the same way.

YNWA

Dalglish » Wed May 16, 2012 7:29 pm wrote:
D_C, Boxscarf, Kewell and others have got what they wished for. I hope your happy because some no mark in America adopts your approach to the beautiful game and turns it ugly in an instant.

No, I haven't got what I wished for because I never wished for Kenny to be replaced. I wanted Kenny to be a success here and I am saddened by his exit. I feel he should have been given another season, however I can understand why FSG have chosen to dispense of his services, even if I don't agree with their decision.