lakes10 » Sun May 06, 2012 9:46 am wrote:devaney » Sun May 06, 2012 10:32 am wrote:lakes10 » Sun May 06, 2012 9:14 am wrote:I think the problem is that members on here keep looking back at Rafas years here and thinking they where great, in truth we were a Sh*t team many times under Rafa.
members on here keep saying about Rafas Net spend.......well kenny only been here a year and had not had the time to build up a Net spend, you will have to hold off for a few windows to see how his works out.
this season we have won something for the first time in 6 years, more than that we have been in two finals.
The big problem this year has been our home games, in most we have had control for over 65% of the game and had about 15 shots on goal in each game. hit the post at home about 20 times (11 in away games i think), its not as if we have always looked a bad team in them games, in truth we have looked the better team but just did not get the result.
This year the prem has given other clubs a shock aswell, more smaller clubs are getting results that you would never think could happen.
I back Kenny to make us a top 3 team next year.
I hope your right Lakes and no doubt you would make a half decent attempt at convincing me that Kenny's starting line up yesterday was correct! As for Rafa's net spend it is not something I was comparing with Kenny who in net terms has not spent a fortune. Circa £35m which considering the work that needed doing isn't too bad.It is what Kenny has spent it on that concerns me.I wasn't Rafa's biggest fan at the end.The team and the football wasn't good.His controlling demands were too great and his stubbornness lead to his downfall and the reason why not many clubs have gone after him. It is your criticism of Rafa's 72 purchases which in fact was only 59 that I do not accept. He created one of the best midfields in the world and I'm sure you remember the song.Do you think the Kop will pen a song for the current bunch? He bought Torres who gave us some great memories and £30m in the bank! He bought Alonso who gave us some great years and £20m in the bank.Net spend is massively important and your simple dismissal of Rafa's achievement in this area smacks of either bloo.dy mindedness or naivety.Yes he bought some rubbish but so does every manager including the whiskey nosey cu.nt down the road!
The ponit I am making about net spend is that we dont know what kenny will do in this window, how much he is going to sell players for, and we might end up thinking that the money spent on Andy is well worth it, as it stands he has already got us into one final and was our best player in that final he got us into.
and Rafa did not get us 56 players it was 76 players lol
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... reign.html
Sh.it Lakes do you believe everything that rag say? lol
Here are the accurate figures - have I left anybody out? Don't go cross out reading it!
Player Club Fee Date
Josemi Rey Malaga £2,000,000 26.07.2004
Antonio Nunez Real Madrid £1,500,000 * 17.08.2004
Xabi Alonso Real Sociedad £10,700,000 20.08.2004
Luis Garcia Barcelona £6,000,000 20.08.2004
Mauricio Pellegrino Valencia Free 05.01.2005
Fernando Morientes Real Madrid £6,300,000 13.01.2005
Scott Carson Leeds United £1,000,000 21.01.2005
Boudewijn Zenden Free Transfer Free * 04.07.2005
Jose Reina Villareal £6,000,000 04.07.2005
Antonio Barragan Sevilla £240,000 04.07.2005
Mohamed Sissoko Valencia £5,600,000 14.07.2005
Peter Crouch Southampton £7,000,000 20.07.2005
Miki Roque Lleida Unknown 15.08.2005
Jack Hobbs Lincoln City £150,000 * 18.08.2005
Besian Idrizaj LASK Linz £190,000 * 22.08.2005
Mark Gonzalez Albacete £1,500,000 * 20.10.2005
Paul Anderson Hull City Player Exchange * 01.01.2006
Jan Kromkamp Villareal Player Exchange * 04.01.2006
David Martin MK Dons £250,000 * 12.01.2006
Daniel Agger Brøndby £5,800,000 12.01.2006
Robbie Fowler Manchester City Free 27.01.2006
Craig Bellamy Blackburn Rovers £6,000,000 01.07.2006
Gabriel Paletta Club Atlético Banfield £2,000,000 04.07.2006
Fábio Aurélio Valencia Free 05.07.2006
Jermaine Pennant Birmingham £6,700,000 26.07.2006
Dirk Kuyt Feyenoord £9,000,000 18.08.2006
Nabil El Zhar St Etienne £200,000 21.08.2006
Astrit Ajdarevic Falkenberg £750,000 11.01.2007
Daniele Padelli Sampdoria On Loan * 12.01.2007
Jordy Brouwer Ajax Undisclosed * 24.01.2007
Francisco Durán Malaga £66,000 * 30.01.2007
Álvaro Arbeloa Deportivo La Coruna £2,500,000 31.01.2007
Javier Mascherano West Ham United On Loan 20.02.2007
Lucas Leiva Gremio £5,000,000 11.05.2007
Krisztián Németh MTK Hungaria Undisclosed 25.05.2007
Mikel Domínguez Athletic Bilbao £270,000 28.06.2007
Sebastian Leto Club Atlético Lanús £1,800,000 01.07.2007
Fernando Torres Atletico Madrid £20,200,000 04.07.2007
Andriy Voronin Bayer Leverkusen Free * 06.07.2007
Yossi Benayoun West Ham United £5,000,000 12.07.2007
Ryan Babel Ajax £11,500,000 13.07.2007
Charles Itandje Lens Undisclosed 09.08.2007
Emiliano Insúa Boca Juniors £1,675,000 * 26.08.2007
Lauri Dalla Valle JIPPO £600,000 * 08.11.2007
Martin Skrtel Zenit St Petersburg £6,500,000 11.01.2008
Javier Mascherano Media Sports Investment £18,600,000 * 29.02.2008
Philipp Degen Dortmund Free * 03.07.2008
Andrea Dossena Udinese £7,000,000 04.07.2008
Diego Cavalieri Palmeiras £3,500,000 11.07.2008
David N'Gog Paris St Germain £1,500,000 24.07.2008
Robbie Keane Tottenham Hotspur £19,000,000 28.07.2008
Albert Riera Espanyol £8,000,000 31.08.2008
Glen Johnson Portsmouth £17,500,000 26.06.2009
Alberto Aquilani AS Roma £17,100,000 * 07.08.2009
Sotirios Kyrgiakos AEK Athens £2,000,000 21.08.2009
Daniel Ayala Sevilla £160,000 17.09.2009
Maxi Rodriguez Atletico Madrid Free 12.01.2010
Jonjo Shelvey Charlton Athletic £1,700,000 * 10.05.2010
Milan Jovanovic Standard Liege Free * 08.07.2010
Rafael Benítez bought 59 players for £231,651,000