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Dalglish: We're all disappointed
Fifa.com 5th April 2012


Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish admits the club's current run of bad results places him in unfamiliar territory.

The Reds have lost six of their last seven league matches and have dropped to eighth in the table as the expected boost from winning the League Cup in February has failed to materialise.

It is their worst run of results for 59 years and is something alien to a man who had so much success at Anfield both as a player and manager. "I don't know if I experienced a run of results like this," Dalglish said.

Everyone needs picking up but the best way to pick yourself up is to put in a winning performance.
Kenny Dalglish, Liverpool manager
"Someone told me for the club it was [the worst since] 1953 - I'm not that old and so can't remember that far back. But I don't remember anything as a manager or a player - or even as a supporter.

"I suppose the worst I've experienced was when I think we were third or fourth-bottom one year at Christmas time, which wasn't pleasant. But I don't think it matters what the results have been, we've lost games everywhere.

"At any stage of your career you lose games and it is how you react and respond to it which is important. What number of games, and whether they are back to back, is in many ways irrelevant because you don't like to lose any games."

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Liverpool have registered only two league wins since the turn of the year, with the last one of those being last month's 3-0 home Merseyside derby victory over Everton, who have since moved ahead of their near-neighbours in the table.

It has impacted on squad morale at the worst possible time with another meeting with the Toffees in an FA Cup semi-final just over a week away. Dalglish accepts the cumulative negative effect is getting to the players but believes the only way they can rectify their problems is through good preparation.

He knows, however, that a return to winning ways is long overdue. "Everyone is disappointed with the results and understands it is much more enjoyable when you win games," he added.

"The frustration and disappointment is something which is a virtue if you can control it. I've been disappointed but I've never been down. Everyone needs picking up but the best way to pick yourself up is to put in a winning performance.

"The result last weekend [a 2-0 defeat at Newcastle] was on the back of some other poor results which no-one is pleased with or wants to accept but the only way to correct it is to work as hard as we possibly can.

"We have to concentrate on ourselves, make sure we get ourselves prepared as well as we can, and go on the pitch on Saturday and give our all. We can't go about feeling sorry for ourselves. No-one is enjoying the results when we've lost - and we don't want them to be happy.

"For us we just have to work hard and have belief and confidence in our ability because there is bags of ability there. The players have trained the way they train normally, which is very impressive, and the training is always good."

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1611539.html?cid=rssfeed&att=


The world and its dog will be watching on Saturday hoping for another capitulation against perennial underachievers Villa ,so lets fucking slaughter
them by attacking from the start .... COME ON THE REDMEN !

let's kick on from here Kenny! put this behind us and go at them from the start.

LET'S FUKING RAG THEM!

Roger Red Hat » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:16 pm wrote:let's kick on from here Kenny! put this behind us and go at them from the start.

LET'S FUKING RAG THEM!

Is right !!  lets take maximum points over Easter and then give the fucking Bitterz food for thought .

mart » Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:48 pm wrote:Its interesting to see how we are willing to blame just about everyone except kenny for this seasons failure. It seems that FSG, Comolli, Ayre, the media, the refs, the new players, the old players, rafa, hodgson, the texas *****, and the woodwork has worked together to stop kenny from having a successful season.

I think blame is probably the wrong word
There are legitimate reasons why we are where we are, some of which you have mentioned.
And its also KK's responsibility as well as the players to make sure we win games
KK is the manager so the buck has to stop with him

Thommo's perm » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:14 pm wrote:

mart » Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:48 pm wrote:Its interesting to see how we are willing to blame just about everyone except kenny for this seasons failure. It seems that FSG, Comolli, Ayre, the media, the refs, the new players, the old players, rafa, hodgson, the texas *****, and the woodwork has worked together to stop kenny from having a successful season.

I think blame is probably the wrong word
There are legitimate reasons why we are where we are, some of which you have mentioned.
And its also KK's responsibility as well as the players to make sure we win games
KK is the manager so the buck has to stop with him

i find it more funny that most of the ones that blame Kenny are also the main ones that would not blame Rafa.

lakes10 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:48 am wrote:

Thommo's perm » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:14 pm wrote:

mart » Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:48 pm wrote:Its interesting to see how we are willing to blame just about everyone except kenny for this seasons failure. It seems that FSG, Comolli, Ayre, the media, the refs, the new players, the old players, rafa, hodgson, the texas *****, and the woodwork has worked together to stop kenny from having a successful season.

I think blame is probably the wrong word
There are legitimate reasons why we are where we are, some of which you have mentioned.
And its also KK's responsibility as well as the players to make sure we win games
KK is the manager so the buck has to stop with him

i find it more funny that most of the ones that blame Kenny are also the main ones that would not blame Rafa.

Of course there will be double standards where KK is concerned, the man was a legend.

Roy was really bad, KK needs time to sort out the problems left by Hicks and Gilette...

KK just needs to mix it up a bit, attack more, not play so deep and not play JC so much! We seem to play well (Coates a few weeks back) and the next game he is benched, for no reason. We play well pushing up so next game we go deep. It just makes no sense and he needs to sort it out

Rafa's time was up. Ok, it wasn't easy towards the end with the two idiots in charge, but he'd been backed for the most of his stay here and turned over a huge number of players, of whom most weren't good enough for the reserves, let alone the first 11.

worries me that some want him back, mind.

7_kewell

Still can't see how you can blame him for that since he had to wheel and deal with every transfer he did. Most of the times he even had to sell players he wanted to keep in order to buy player that he hoped would be a little bit better. It's very hard to do transfers like that. No other big clubs does that. At the same time we hade the worlds crappiest owners and we bought into the hype about Rafa being the fat spanish waiter that actually was the reason the club didn't accomplish more. I bet the oppositions fans are happy now.

Just take a look at the team we had around 2007.

First eleven
Reina, Finnan, Carragher, Hyypia, Arbeloa, Mascherano, Alonso, Kuyt, Riise, Gerrard and Torres.

Subs
Lucas, Crouch, Babel, Pennant, Benayon, Kewell, Agger, Insua, Sissoko and Skrtel.

Net spend is what's really shows how good your transfers are compared to the end results. Rafa finished amongst the top most of his years and took us far in the finest club competition in the world. I would be happy to have most of those subs in our first eleven by now.

Kukilon » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:38 am wrote:7_kewell

Still can't see how you can blame him for that since he had to wheel and deal with every transfer he did. Most of the times he even had to sell players he wanted to keep in order to buy player that he hoped would be a little bit better. It's very hard to do transfers like that. No other big clubs does that. At the same time we hade the worlds crappiest owners and we bought into the hype about Rafa being the fat spanish waiter that actually was the reason the club didn't accomplish more. I bet the oppositions fans are happy now.

Just take a look at the team we had around 2007.

First eleven
Reina, Finnan, Carragher, Hyypia, Arbeloa, Mascherano, Alonso, Kuyt, Riise, Gerrard and Torres.

Subs
Lucas, Crouch, Babel, Pennant, Benayon, Kewell, Agger, Insua, Sissoko and Skrtel.

Net spend is what's really shows how good your transfers are compared to the end results. Rafa finished amongst the top most of his years and took us far in the finest club competition in the world. I would be happy to have most of those subs in our first eleven by now.

When will people shut up about net spend. Whats the point of a great net spend if you buy 30 players and sell 30 oplayers a season so you never get any cohesion in the team. If the team has no time to bond it doesn't matter how much you have spent or not spent. The team needs time to gel and bond.

Rafas time was up, hes gone, move on. This is a completely different topic now.

dawson99 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:46 am wrote:

Kukilon » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:38 am wrote:7_kewell

Still can't see how you can blame him for that since he had to wheel and deal with every transfer he did. Most of the times he even had to sell players he wanted to keep in order to buy player that he hoped would be a little bit better. It's very hard to do transfers like that. No other big clubs does that. At the same time we hade the worlds crappiest owners and we bought into the hype about Rafa being the fat spanish waiter that actually was the reason the club didn't accomplish more. I bet the oppositions fans are happy now.

Just take a look at the team we had around 2007.

First eleven
Reina, Finnan, Carragher, Hyypia, Arbeloa, Mascherano, Alonso, Kuyt, Riise, Gerrard and Torres.

Subs
Lucas, Crouch, Babel, Pennant, Benayon, Kewell, Agger, Insua, Sissoko and Skrtel.

Net spend is what's really shows how good your transfers are compared to the end results. Rafa finished amongst the top most of his years and took us far in the finest club competition in the world. I would be happy to have most of those subs in our first eleven by now.

When will people shut up about net spend. Whats the point of a great net spend if you buy 30 players and sell 30 oplayers a season so you never get any cohesion in the team. If the team has no time to bond it doesn't matter how much you have spent or not spent. The team needs time to gel and bond.

Rafas time was up, hes gone, move on. This is a completely different topic now.

As I said wheeling and dealing is not something any manager wants to do. It comes down to resources. With ***** backing as Rafa had he had to do it.

He had his faults but he was the best manager we had for a long time.

Kukilon » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:57 am wrote:

dawson99 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:46 am wrote:

Kukilon » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:38 am wrote:7_kewell

Still can't see how you can blame him for that since he had to wheel and deal with every transfer he did. Most of the times he even had to sell players he wanted to keep in order to buy player that he hoped would be a little bit better. It's very hard to do transfers like that. No other big clubs does that. At the same time we hade the worlds crappiest owners and we bought into the hype about Rafa being the fat spanish waiter that actually was the reason the club didn't accomplish more. I bet the oppositions fans are happy now.

Just take a look at the team we had around 2007.

First eleven
Reina, Finnan, Carragher, Hyypia, Arbeloa, Mascherano, Alonso, Kuyt, Riise, Gerrard and Torres.

Subs
Lucas, Crouch, Babel, Pennant, Benayon, Kewell, Agger, Insua, Sissoko and Skrtel.

Net spend is what's really shows how good your transfers are compared to the end results. Rafa finished amongst the top most of his years and took us far in the finest club competition in the world. I would be happy to have most of those subs in our first eleven by now.

When will people shut up about net spend. Whats the point of a great net spend if you buy 30 players and sell 30 oplayers a season so you never get any cohesion in the team. If the team has no time to bond it doesn't matter how much you have spent or not spent. The team needs time to gel and bond.

Rafas time was up, hes gone, move on. This is a completely different topic now.

As I said wheeling and dealing is not something any manager wants to do. It comes down to resources. With ***** backing as Rafa had he had to do it.

He had his faults but he was the best manager we had for a long time.

Better than Evans (lol)?

In hindsight at a time Rafa was God, but then he went massively downhill... we have to look forward

(Wasn't having a go at you re: net spend, it's just my pet peeve with people saying its good, no matter the amount of players signed)

I don't have anything personal against Evans but you can hardly compare the competition back then. He was "meeeh good". Compared to other top clubs around europe our team back then our team was not so great. He was a great servant to the club the same way I think KK will always be remembered as one too. I hope this period of KK career won't leave a sour "taste" in peoples thoughts about him. Still did a lot to steady the ship last year and I wanted him here on a permanent basis. It was not wrong to offer him that position. We got who we wanted and some kudos should be given to the owners for that and also for the amounts of money spent.

As we don't know all the facts its hard to know what sort of blame KK deserves but in the end the manager has to take the blame in the same way Rafa did. A team like Liverpool should never accept finishing below 6th. Rafa should have concentrated on the "on field" activities though I will still love him for his way to hound the owners around. I don't think he gets the plaudits he deserves for his other seasons though.

KK has not worked out as I wished but that's how life is sometimes. To compare that to Hodgsons results which never even gave me hope to see us go forward.

None of our players or manager should ever be booed or something similar at games just for not reaching the results we want.

We need you now, Kenny Dalglish tells Liverpool FC fans

KENNY DALGLISH believes Liverpool FC supporters can play a key role in helping to restore his side’s belief at Anfield tomorrow.

The boss admits a dismal run of six defeats in seven league games has taken its toll on confidence levels in the squad ahead of the clash with Aston Villa.

But Dalglish is hoping the backing of a capacity home crowd will help inspire the Reds to a morale-boosting victory.

“It’s really important to be supportive of each other,” he said. “There’s not one faction of the football club that’s more important than the other – we can all help each other.

“We can help the punters by putting on a good performance and getting a good result.

“They can help us by giving us good support and encouragement that helps the players. I’m sure we’ll get fantastic support on Saturday and that’s when we really need them. When you think of the quality of the players we have got, and you say they maybe lack a bit of confidence or belief, you say that can’t be right because they are great players.

“But confidence and belief is a huge thing.

“It doesn’t matter how good you are, that’s still a large proportion of where your performance comes from.

“If they are confident and they have the belief, it’s going to be helpful. And if they feel other people have the belief in them that’s going to help as well.

“It seems strange when you talk about players of really high quality having taken a wee confidence knock but that’s a fact of life.”

The Reds will be up against a depleted Villa still coming to terms with skipper Stiliyan Petrov being diagnosed with acute leukaemia. Alex McLeish’s side boast just one win in eight games and are only five points above the relegation zone.

“They have been unfortunate with the news about Stiliyan Petrov, and that puts football into a bit of perspective,” Dalglish said. “Villa were a much changed side against Chelsea last week but if they were a wee bit upset about Stiliyan they didn’t show it in the game.

“We know it’s going to be difficult. They will come here with a lot of determination and grit. We need the help and support of each other – on the pitch and off it.”

Meanwhile, Dirk Kuyt’s agent, Rob Jansen, says the Liverpool FC forward would consider a move to Italy this summer.

Kuyt has said he intends to weigh up his options at the end of the season after losing his role as a regular starter for the Reds.

“Roma could be an option for Dirk,” Jansen said.

“They are a prestigious club that is fighting for important objectives. I can say that Roma is part of the list of clubs that Kuyt would take seriously into account

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2012/04/06/we-need-you-now-kenny-dalglish
Time to stand up and be counted Players ,manager ,and fans.

RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:30 pm wrote:We need you now, Kenny Dalglish tells Liverpool FC fans

KENNY DALGLISH believes Liverpool FC supporters can play a key role in helping to restore his side’s belief at Anfield tomorrow.

The boss admits a dismal run of six defeats in seven league games has taken its toll on confidence levels in the squad ahead of the clash with Aston Villa.

But Dalglish is hoping the backing of a capacity home crowd will help inspire the Reds to a morale-boosting victory.

“It’s really important to be supportive of each other,” he said. “There’s not one faction of the football club that’s more important than the other – we can all help each other.

“We can help the punters by putting on a good performance and getting a good result.

“They can help us by giving us good support and encouragement that helps the players. I’m sure we’ll get fantastic support on Saturday and that’s when we really need them. When you think of the quality of the players we have got, and you say they maybe lack a bit of confidence or belief, you say that can’t be right because they are great players.

“But confidence and belief is a huge thing.

“It doesn’t matter how good you are, that’s still a large proportion of where your performance comes from.

“If they are confident and they have the belief, it’s going to be helpful. And if they feel other people have the belief in them that’s going to help as well.

“It seems strange when you talk about players of really high quality having taken a wee confidence knock but that’s a fact of life.”

The Reds will be up against a depleted Villa still coming to terms with skipper Stiliyan Petrov being diagnosed with acute leukaemia. Alex McLeish’s side boast just one win in eight games and are only five points above the relegation zone.

“They have been unfortunate with the news about Stiliyan Petrov, and that puts football into a bit of perspective,” Dalglish said. “Villa were a much changed side against Chelsea last week but if they were a wee bit upset about Stiliyan they didn’t show it in the game.

“We know it’s going to be difficult. They will come here with a lot of determination and grit. We need the help and support of each other – on the pitch and off it.”

Meanwhile, Dirk Kuyt’s agent, Rob Jansen, says the Liverpool FC forward would consider a move to Italy this summer.

Kuyt has said he intends to weigh up his options at the end of the season after losing his role as a regular starter for the Reds.

“Roma could be an option for Dirk,” Jansen said.

“They are a prestigious club that is fighting for important objectives. I can say that Roma is part of the list of clubs that Kuyt would take seriously into account

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2012/04/06/we-need-you-now-kenny-dalglish
Time to stand up and be counted Players ,manager ,and fans.

for a man who says he has no time for the media, you don't half spent a lot of time posting about them or pasting articles...

Kukilon » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:39 pm wrote:I don't have anything personal against Evans but you can hardly compare the competition back then. He was "meeeh good". Compared to other top clubs around europe our team back then our team was not so great. He was a great servant to the club the same way I think KK will always be remembered as one too. I hope this period of KK career won't leave a sour "taste" in peoples thoughts about him. Still did a lot to steady the ship last year and I wanted him here on a permanent basis. It was not wrong to offer him that position. We got who we wanted and some kudos should be given to the owners for that and also for the amounts of money spent.

As we don't know all the facts its hard to know what sort of blame KK deserves but in the end the manager has to take the blame in the same way Rafa did. A team like Liverpool should never accept finishing below 6th. Rafa should have concentrated on the "on field" activities though I will still love him for his way to hound the owners around. I don't think he gets the plaudits he deserves for his other seasons though.

KK has not worked out as I wished but that's how life is sometimes. To compare that to Hodgsons results which never even gave me hope to see us go forward.

None of our players or manager should ever be booed or something similar at games just for not reaching the results we want.

i think your being a bit harsh on evans mate, you say the competition wasnt as good but i`d disagree, that united side that evans faced was the best united side in their entire history imo and their midfield with the likes of roy keane and paul ince in their prime would crush the side united have these days, arsenal probably had their greatest ever side too with george grahams back 5 along with the likes of viera, petit, bergkamp, overmars, anelka etc and newcastle under keegan werent bad either. he even had to face the equivalent of a moneybags team like chelsea or man city because blackburn won the title in those 4 years that roy was in charge.
whilst it`s true that not only evans but no one did particularly well back then in europe there were reasons for that, for a start english clubs had only been allowed back into europe for about 3 years when evans took charge so they still had catching up to do tactically but there was also that ruling that clubs couldnt play more than 3 foreigners in their side, whats more countries like wales, scotland and even ireland (i know they are technically foreign but the irish have played such a big part culturally in this country and are so similar to brits that we brits often forget they are foreign) were now classed as foreigners.
to be fair united were hit particularly hard by that ruling, they had a great side but in europe players like giggs (welsh), irwin (irish), keane (irish), hughes (welsh) and mclair (scottish) were classed the same as the likes of cantona, schmeichel and kanchelskis.
in europe they practically played a reserve side.
evans`s era was tough, the teams were better back then imo.