LFC2007 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:57 pm wrote:tubby » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:09 pm wrote:LFC2007 if you disagree with his points then tell us why? No use replying with 1 liners of pictures of f*cking sesame street characters mate. Kewell is making an attempt to explain why he feels how he does so as a courtesy you can at least afford him the same level of respect.
Sometimes, mate, I just can't be a'rsed trying to reason with people who are barely open to reason themselves. You can only learn if you are prepared to challenge your own views, but posters like kewell only show an interest in trying to confirm their views, as evidenced by the posts he has made in this thread and in countless others. Anything that goes against his theory that Kenny is past it gets short shrift, so entrenched are his views about the manager.
If he was such a reasonable poster, then it begs being asked why it is he is so dead set against Kenny and was (keen as he is to remind us) so dead set against his appointment to begin with, yet totally open to the appointment of Roy Hodgson, a man who couldn't even manage to win a single one of those "Mickey Mouse" trophies he likes to refer to at any time over the course of his long managerial career. His opinions may be sincere, but it doesn't mean they are sensible.
The reason kewell dwells on Kenny's time at Newcastle and Celtic is because that's where he finds justification for his views. He'd have you believe that those experiences prove beyond doubt that Kenny isn't capable of managing in the modern era, despite the fact that Kenny won the title with Blackburn less than two years prior to taking the Newcastle job. Likewise, according to kewell, all the success Kenny had with us as manager in the late 80s does little to nothing to inform us about Kenny ability to manager a team in the modern era, despite the fundamental principles of the game being no different back then to what they are today. A balanced poster would address precisely these points, but he isn't and he doesn't.
If some significant aspects of the game have changed, and they undoubtedly have, then do a better job of explaining why you believe Kenny is so obviously incapable of adapting to those changes as to make it futile for the club to persist with him, than simply giving a partial account of his previous managerial record or his present spell as manager (Andy Carroll, Jordan Henderson, disaster, disaster, disaster, tends to be the gist of it).
If Kenny has made some serious mistakes in the transfer market, and I believe he has, as well as having some notable successes, then explain your reasons for believing with such certainty that he cannot rectify those mistakes in future transfer windows.
Moreover, explain why, if the manager is so incapable of ever managing us to success in the modern era, he managed to get the team playing to a top four standard at the back end of last season, and why it is not possible for him to get the team performing to a similar standard next season.
If people like kewell want to be treated seriously, then they could start by answer some of these questions.
I’m stuck to my own views because I’ve seen little to change them.
Kenny’s managerial pattern at Liverpool is reflective of his time at his previous two clubs.
Poor league performance followed by a cup run.
The game has changed leaps and bounds over the last 20 years. The influx of foreign players, managers and coaches to the English game has kept its fast and physical nature, but today it’s also much more technical. Opposition managers change their formation, shape, approach constantly during a match and premier league managers need to be dynamic to outwit their opponent.
Kenny doesn’t do this... he picks a team, a formation and sticks with it. That’s why we dominate games and then get dicked on - the opposition change their shape and exploit our weaknesses.
I was extremely impressed last season, but there was no pressure. Kenny had no expectation on his shoulders and i think he works better when the pressure is off. This season it’s different...the media, the fans and the board EXPECT more...Kenny hasn’t reacted well and you can see it.
Can Kenny turn it around? Yes....but he needs to go back to basics, face up to the colossal mistakes he’s made, and try again.