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Postby lakes10 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:36 pm

bbc five live monday night club

from 54 mins in

about Kenny and Liverpool



going by this they feel the powers at the club will get shot of him at the end of the season.
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Postby jacdaniel » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:38 pm

Jose Mourinho should never manage Liverpool.  the job wouldnt suit him.
He only goes to clubs with lots of money and achieves short term success by signing experienced players for big fees.

Every manager in the history of Liverpool has always focused on the long term future with or without them in charge.  Thats why we sign players like Shelvey + Hendo and work on our academy. 

With Jose in charge we'd sell our soul for some short term success then he'd leave and we'd be left to pick up the pieces.  Look at Chelsea and Inter as examples.  Chelsea are still trying to recover from the millions he spent on older players that are now past it.
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Postby Reg » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:55 pm

I disagree, I think Maurice is a hiighly intelligent man who knows exactly how to win which is what Liverpool now need. There is no point throwing good money after bad, so lets get the right man in and get started.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:22 pm

Maureen only focuses on himself - he buys for the present and has no interest in building up a club , he wants to walk in , spend a bit of money on instant success then walk away with all the plaudits ignoring the mess left behind, Chelsea are seeing , Inter Milan are seeing .

Wouldnt want the disrepsectful :censored: near our club.
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Postby Basil » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:48 pm

I agree, would never want that scumbag at Liverpool.
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Postby tubby » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:05 pm

Reg wrote:I disagree, I think Maurice is a hiighly intelligent man who knows exactly how to win which is what Liverpool now need. There is no point throwing good money after bad, so lets get the right man in and get started.

Whether his character fits the bill of a Liverpool FC manager is debatable and it's obvious that opinion on him is split. But he is a proven winner.

I think he is a bit of a kunt but part of that persona I think is him deflecting attention away from his players. One thing is for sure though, he has a proven track record of getting the best out of players.
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Postby Reg » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:15 pm

Bav, I don't care if he's a **nt to be honest but I sense Liverpool are staring over the edge of the cliff and wondering whether its possible to move forward in this player cycle or whether we become a mediocre, 6/7th place team for the next 3-4 years. We must move forward and I don't see the current crop of players even after Kenny's lavish supermarket frenzy being the team to challenge for top place.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:19 pm

Reg wrote:Bav, I don't care if he's a **nt to be honest but I sense Liverpool are staring over the edge of the cliff and wondering whether its possible to move forward in this player cycle or whether we become a mediocre, 6/7th place team for the next 3-4 years. We must move forward and I don't see the current crop of players even after Kenny's lavish supermarket frenzy being the team to challenge for top place.

Seriously Reginald, have faith. KK will lead us forward.
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Postby Octsky » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:21 pm

jacdaniel wrote:Jose Mourinho should never manage Liverpool.  the job wouldnt suit him.
He only goes to clubs with lots of money and achieves short term success by signing experienced players for big fees.

Every manager in the history of Liverpool has always focused on the long term future with or without them in charge.  Thats why we sign players like Shelvey + Hendo and work on our academy. 

With Jose in charge we'd sell our soul for some short term success then he'd leave and we'd be left to pick up the pieces.  Look at Chelsea and Inter as examples.  Chelsea are still trying to recover from the millions he spent on older players that are now past it.

agreed with you,
i believed from day one, from his Porto days he is aiming for the Real madscum position.
yes, his Porto did win the champs league, but a similar "smaller club" AC Monaco also did well in getting into the final against him.

from day one, he has managed the biggest clubs in their respective league.
look at Macinin at Citeh, league leader, was he the "best" manager around ?
it is up to debate, but the 500m war chest did help a lot.

even if morinho win la liga it is not really a big achievement as they probably can sign anyone they want.
similarly at chelsh1t.
at Inter, they were the biggest around as AC and Juve were hit by the match fixing scandal.

Kenny is building for the future, so is Wenger but he is over-doing it. Barca (now) and manc (whole of 90's) dominated the game because more than half of the team was from the academy. the academy players breathe and bled the club's blood.
u want morinho to do that? no way, jose. i admit he is the one if u want short term instant results but cracks will start to show few years down the road.
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Postby Roger Red Hat » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:32 pm

I quote...

Bill Shankly was appointed Liverpool manager in 1959...

Slowly at first, and then with a gathering pace, Shankly and his backroom team turned Liverpool around, and with new signings Ron Yeats, Ian St. John and Gordon Milne, promotion was gained back to the First Division in 1961–1962.[4] Liverpool finished 8th in their first season back in the top flight. The addition of Peter Thompson in 1963 further strengthened the team, and in 1963–1964[4] Liverpool clinched their 6th league title, ahead of Manchester United.


Can anyone see the similarity? 2011 and the team is in termoil. Hodgson at the helm, relegation a reality. Then Kenny takes over. Is Kenny our modern day Shankly?
I think he just might be. Why? cos he 'gets' us. He is emotionally involved with LFC. He won't see us far wrong but it will not happen over night. Just like back in 1959, it'll take time to start to build.
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Postby lakes10 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:59 pm

tubby wrote:
Reg wrote:I disagree, I think Maurice is a hiighly intelligent man who knows exactly how to win which is what Liverpool now need. There is no point throwing good money after bad, so lets get the right man in and get started.

Whether his character fits the bill of a Liverpool FC manager is debatable and it's obvious that opinion on him is split. But he is a proven winner.

I think he is a bit of a kunt but part of that persona I think is him deflecting attention away from his players. One thing is for sure though, he has a proven track record of getting the best out of players.

i think you are spot on mate, most of it is an act.
the truth is that he has a lot of time for Liverpool as a club, the only person he never got on with was Rafa. I know they had a drinks a few times after games but that soon stopped.

he has said before that Liverpool would be one club he would come back to England for as he loves the history of the club and if a big Shankly fan.

he has said before that he trys to be cool just like Shankly was but to also have the passion for the game he had.
the inteview was given to the bbc in 2010 and was posted on here...in some thread.

how would us fans take to him as our manager, well i dont like the guy but he is a great manager. but if we did not win games fast if he took over from Kenny fans would turn on him faster than they did with Roy.
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Postby lakes10 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:02 pm

Roger Red Hat wrote:I quote...

Bill Shankly was appointed Liverpool manager in 1959...

Slowly at first, and then with a gathering pace, Shankly and his backroom team turned Liverpool around, and with new signings Ron Yeats, Ian St. John and Gordon Milne, promotion was gained back to the First Division in 1961–1962.[4] Liverpool finished 8th in their first season back in the top flight. The addition of Peter Thompson in 1963 further strengthened the team, and in 1963–1964[4] Liverpool clinched their 6th league title, ahead of Manchester United.


Can anyone see the similarity? 2011 and the team is in termoil. Hodgson at the helm, relegation a reality. Then Kenny takes over. Is Kenny our modern day Shankly?
I think he just might be. Why? cos he 'gets' us. He is emotionally involved with LFC. He won't see us far wrong but it will not happen over night. Just like back in 1959, it'll take time to start to build.

sorry mate but you must open up your eyes and stop saying "the team is in termoil. Hodgson at the helm" the truth was we were left a :censored: team by Rafa and Roy just added a bit more to it.

Rafa is not blame free when you talk about the state of the club.
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Postby Roger Red Hat » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:08 pm

thats why the full stop was between the 2 sentences lakes. I wasn't blaming hodgson, I wasn't blaming anyone, I was just saying we as a club were in a rough patch on and off the field.
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Postby Reg » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:10 pm

Rafa?  Hang on Lakes, he had to work under the pressure of H&G the thieving tw@ts and Purslow.

Blaming Rafa for where we are today is somewhat short sighted.
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Postby lakes10 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:11 pm

Roger Red Hat wrote:thats why the full stop was between the 2 sentences lakes. I wasn't blaming hodgson, I wasn't blaming anyone, I was just saying we as a club were in a rough patch on and off the field.

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