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[grayghost]

I think Rafa will play the same team he did against the Gunners. That was one of are best performaces of the season with Gerrard behind crouch and 2 whingers with Alonso and masherino in the middle. On a outher note does any one think chelski will hand out flags for there surporters again to try and recreate the kop atmosphire like they did 2 years ago it was a disgrace.

[Effes]

                   Reina

finnan      carra      agger    riise
                 mascherano
pennant   sissoko     alonso    gerrard
                   
                    Crouch


what you guys think bout this formation?

The actual formation is not bad mate; but playing Gerrard on the left is criminal.

Riise's best position is left midfield too, Arbeloa has looked really accomplished at left back.

[Effes]

On a outher note does any one think chelski will hand out flags for there surporters again to try and recreate the kop atmosphire like they did 2 years ago it was a disgrace.

They didn't do that 2 years ago, I was there and we outsang them for most of the time.

[Sabre]

I think your second line up is near the mark Bob ,with hopefully mascherano in for momo, that's the only change i'd make.
I really hope and pray he doesn't play gerrard on the left, he would do a job and probably a good one, but he needs to be in the middle in the thick of things so to speak.

Wether that's as a central midfielder or in the hole as a second striker ,he has to be in the centre of things to have a greater impact.

I'm with you on this one Igor Zidane, Mascherano, despite in the TV only certain details are grasped, is capable of doing a lot of defensive job aswell. There are some players that are good defensively because they run a lot, and others because they are where they should be.

I expected Kuyt in Barcelona away aswell, and Rafa played Crouch. And the most serious test with this formation was made with Crouch up front (Hat trick).

Anyhow, I'd be confident with both formations.

BTW, Effes, I'm shocked with the results, I expected a 18% for 4-4-1-1, not a leveled poll.

[Effes]

BTW, Effes, I'm shocked with the results, I expected a 18% for 4-4-1-1, not a leveled poll.

Iam too.

Funnily enough, I'd prefer to play that at home rather away.

[SJD]

The "leveled poll" just goes to show how many different options we have in the team. Sure other teams can play a 4-4-2 and then a 4-5-1  and then a 4-3-3 but they are bound to lose some of the quality that there preferred formations brings them. With Liverpool because of the standard of the players and the sheer size of the squad, it means we can afford to change the tactics and the formations and not lose any of the overall quality of the team.

Credit must go to Rafa for building the squad as it is.

He always goes on and on about having options, we have them in abundance here at Liverpool and it gives us a tactical advantage over most opposition.

[Scottbot]

Now, having said that, I actually think Rafa might play the following, since we've been "practicing" it the last few games:

                             Reina

Finnan      Carragher          Agger      Arbeloa

                Alonso            Sissoko

Pennant               Gerrard                Riise

                          Kuyt

The problem with this formation, for me, is Gerrard.  It doesn't make the most of his natural assets, including perhaps his best offensive asset: surging runs from deep positions.  Gerrard is very hard to pick up when he comes from deep and he can beat you with both a long shot or by feigning a shot and then surging past and into the box (not to mention through a well-executed 1-2 with someone on the edge of the area).  Put him in "the hole" and he gets smothered too easily.

I think you probably have the team picked out there mate. Despite Momo's poor form this season i think Rafa will remember his performance away at Barca and play him ahead of Mascherano. Personally i would like to see us in a 4-4-2 with Crouch and Kuyt (particularly if carvallo doesn't make it) up-front.

[stapo1000]

arbeloa carra agger finnan a the back.
risse mascherano alonso gerrard midfield.
kuyt and bellamy up front. 442

[Effes]

arbeloa carra agger finnan a the back.
risse mascherano alonso gerrard midfield.
kuyt and bellamy up front. 442

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[stapo1000]

Now, having said that, I actually think Rafa might play the following, since we've been "practicing" it the last few games:

                             Reina

Finnan      Carragher          Agger      Arbeloa

                Alonso            Sissoko

Pennant               Gerrard                Riise

                          Kuyt

The problem with this formation, for me, is Gerrard.  It doesn't make the most of his natural assets, including perhaps his best offensive asset: surging runs from deep positions.  Gerrard is very hard to pick up when he comes from deep and he can beat you with both a long shot or by feigning a shot and then surging past and into the box (not to mention through a well-executed 1-2 with someone on the edge of the area).  Put him in "the hole" and he gets smothered too easily.

I think you probably have the team picked out there mate. Despite Momo's poor form this season i think Rafa will remember his performance away at Barca and play him ahead of Mascherano. Personally i would like to see us in a 4-4-2 with Crouch and Kuyt (particularly if carvallo doesn't make it) up-front.

i dont think sissoko's been poor. he just has very little football in him. he can break up attacks and put in tackles but he cant pass and adds nothing in attack. thats where mascherano i think has the edge over sissoko. not only is a class holding player but he is a good passer and is much cooler on the ball

[Effes]

I'm amazed its 50/50

[grayghost]

On a outher note does any one think chelski will hand out flags for there surporters again to try and recreate the kop atmosphire like they did 2 years ago it was a disgrace.

They didn't do that 2 years ago, I was there and we outsang them for most of the time.

Yeah i no we out sang them we always do but a friend of mine told me that every surporter in one of there stands was given a blue flag.And all am saying is we don't have to hand out flags and banners to create an atmoshere we do it on are own.  That why are fans are the best.

[Owzat]

I'm amazed its 50/50

Amazed because you strongly believe in one over the other or simple amazement we could be so divided?

I'd leave Sissoko out, who plays instead depending on if we go one or two up front. Honest truth about our strikers is only Bellamy really looks like he's going to change the game coming on from the bench so I'd not play one up front if only for that reason. We can always take one off if it isn't working or if we did go ahead and wanted to defend the lead

[Effes]

I'm amazed its 50/50

Amazed because you strongly believe in one over the other or simple amazement we could be so divided?

Because I didn't think so many people thought 4-4-1-1 worked away from home

[grayghost]

On a outher note does any one think chelski will hand out flags for there surporters again to try and recreate the kop atmosphire like they did 2 years ago it was a disgrace.

They didn't do that 2 years ago, I was there and we outsang them for most of the time.

Yeah i no we out sang them we always do but a friend of mine told me that every surporter in one of there stands was given a blue flag.And all am saying is we don't have to hand out flags and banners to create an atmoshere we do it on are own.  That why are fans are the best.

It looked to me like they did hand out those shity blue plastic flags again. They should know that a Kop like stand can't be bought with cheap blue plastic it has to be made with passion and history.