by Emerald Red » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:57 pm
Ciggy wrote:“The goalless draw against Utrecht in the Europa League on Wednesday confirmed that Hodgson's cautious tactics and conservative attitude have permeated the whole squad: because he picked a second-string team and the football was as unambitious and unexciting as it is when the first XI take to the field.
by Emerald Red » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:00 pm
lakes10 wrote:Ciggy wrote:They are finally starting to twig.
http://www.sport.co.uk/news....m_.aspx
Tony Cascarino has lambasted Roy Hodgson’s managerial reign at Anfield, suggesting the under-fire Liverpool boss is failing the club’s rich footballing traditions.
The former Republic of Ireland international claims the results under the ex-Fulham manager have not been good enough, but even more alarmingly for the club’s fans, are the manner in which these poor results have been achieved.
Citing the drab 0-0 draw against Utrecht on Wednesday night, the much maligned football pundit believes Hodgson’s tactics are far too similar to those he implemented at Craven Cottage, and criticises him for turning the footballing institution that is Liverpool into a “bigger-budget Fulham”.
Cascarino told the Times: “Any Liverpool manager has a duty to play with a certain style: fluent, attractive, attacking, passing football.
“Roy Hodgson is not only failing with the results, he's failing in his duty to the club's traditions and to the fans, and that's a pretty serious combination. If you haven't got style, you at least need results.
“The goalless draw against Utrecht in the Europa League on Wednesday confirmed that Hodgson's cautious tactics and conservative attitude have permeated the whole squad: because he picked a second-string team and the football was as unambitious and unexciting as it is when the first XI take to the field.
He continued: “Nine away games, one win and six losses is dreadful. That's relegation form, and even if you could argue that Liverpool no longer have a squad good enough for the top four, they ought to be challenging for the top six.
“It's not a new problem for Hodgson. With Fulham his record was: 2008-09, three away league wins; 2009-10, one away league win. It has to be the manager's tactics.
“Hodgson has quickly turned Liverpool into a bigger-budget Fulham: they go out, away from home, not to lose. They should be going out to win.
“Imagine Manchester United or Arsenal playing such dull football, given their reputation and past success.
“It wouldn't be tolerated. Nor should it be at Anfield even if the club isn't the force it once was.
“That's no excuse for failing to entertain and failing to act like the big team Liverpool still are.
He added: “Hodgson remains inflexible, conservative, old-fashioned.”
Tony who?
by SouthCoastShankly » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:01 pm
Emerald Red wrote:worcester_red wrote:Emerald Red wrote:rocky29 wrote:listen people may laugh at roys expressions and habits. To me least it shows passion and that he fecking cares. Maybe if our so called stars showed the same grit and determination during matches we wouldnt be in this mess in the first place. Nando are you listening?
Yep. It's all Torres' fault, folks. We're playing dung, minus goal difference, relegation zones, terrible defending in the box from set pieces. It's all "Nando's" fault. The man clearly can't be ar$sed defending and playing through balls to himself.
Oh you mean like the two through balls he's had when he is was one on one with the kepper and fluffing both chances?
You're a laugh. How many has Torres scored for us, yet you single out two chances that he's fluffed? Yeah, you're right - he's sh*t. Flog him. Overrated, lazy so and so that Torres!
by Thommo's perm » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:02 pm
red till i die!! wrote:Thommo's perm wrote:Roy is clearly a dead man walking. Depending on who you listen to he is an owl faced, boring arl, negative, small minded, small club, middle of the table out of his depth, cant win an away game gobsh'ite. The truth is he has never been given a fair crack of the whip and has been under immense pressure from day one for reasons well documented on here. Every phone in and chat show now has the same theme: how long will he survive? There have been varying interpretations of everything anyone with an opinion has said and all with the same outcome: he has to go.
The only doubt remaining is when. I dare say it will not matter if he does qualify for the CL or win a cup. Those with the loudest voices have now got the support of the sheep among us and Hodgsons mistakes, errors and virtually every trivial thing he does has now become a weapon against him or evidence to prove why the doubters are right.
Who should replace him? Not Kenny, who has been out of management for far too long and has a history of bailing when hes had enough. Definitely not Benitez who is busy fighting his own demons and attempting without much success at the moment to rebuild his tarnished reputation.
So who is this messiah who will wave his wand and turn sh'it into gold for us? Whoever he is he will have to wait until next season because I dont believe the owners will sack Roy unless it becomes clear that they have to
you shouldnt allow yourself to get so worked up defending roy.
yes every phone in,forum and chat show are on roys back slating his tactics and abilities and credentials.that comes with being the manager of a top club and is part of the parcel,especially when the results arent being delivered.
the players cop stick also for lacklustre performances and rightly so but the buck ultimately stops with the gaffer.
last year was disastrous,the club imploded,manager and board members at war and benitez allowed this to affect his performances and got the boot,the ship needed steadying we were told until the club got sold,they appointed roy as an interim manager.
6 mths in and the players are still underperforming,results are terrible,league position is unacceptable and the performances are absolutely dire.there is little or no improvement under roy.
kenny has been out of management for a while yes,but not out of football.the man is a winner as a player and a manager and that is something you never forget.maybe an older wiser kenny is what we need.
not sure who the new messiah will be but what i am sure of is that if he has us serving up the same sh1t the fans will call for his head too.it's fickle but thats football for you.
hodgson never got the full support of the fans because they felt that his away record would be poor,he was negative,small minded and out of his depth.
so far there isnt enough evidence to prove fans wrong.
by Emerald Red » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:04 pm
SouthCoastShankly wrote:Emerald Red wrote:worcester_red wrote:Emerald Red wrote:rocky29 wrote:listen people may laugh at roys expressions and habits. To me least it shows passion and that he fecking cares. Maybe if our so called stars showed the same grit and determination during matches we wouldnt be in this mess in the first place. Nando are you listening?
Yep. It's all Torres' fault, folks. We're playing dung, minus goal difference, relegation zones, terrible defending in the box from set pieces. It's all "Nando's" fault. The man clearly can't be ar$sed defending and playing through balls to himself.
Oh you mean like the two through balls he's had when he is was one on one with the kepper and fluffing both chances?
You're a laugh. How many has Torres scored for us, yet you single out two chances that he's fluffed? Yeah, you're right - he's sh*t. Flog him. Overrated, lazy so and so that Torres!
Torres isn't the cause of this mess but he does play a significant factor. He has been off form a lot, it is more than two chances missed.
The forum as a whole on average rate him outside of the top ten performers. It's hardly normal.
by Thommo's perm » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:08 pm
Ciggy wrote:They are finally starting to twig.
http://www.sport.co.uk/news....m_.aspx
Tony Cascarino has lambasted Roy Hodgson’s managerial reign at Anfield, suggesting the under-fire Liverpool boss is failing the club’s rich footballing traditions.
The former Republic of Ireland international claims the results under the ex-Fulham manager have not been good enough, but even more alarmingly for the club’s fans, are the manner in which these poor results have been achieved.
Citing the drab 0-0 draw against Utrecht on Wednesday night, the much maligned football pundit believes Hodgson’s tactics are far too similar to those he implemented at Craven Cottage, and criticises him for turning the footballing institution that is Liverpool into a “bigger-budget Fulham”.
Cascarino told the Times: “Any Liverpool manager has a duty to play with a certain style: fluent, attractive, attacking, passing football.
“Roy Hodgson is not only failing with the results, he's failing in his duty to the club's traditions and to the fans, and that's a pretty serious combination. If you haven't got style, you at least need results.
“The goalless draw against Utrecht in the Europa League on Wednesday confirmed that Hodgson's cautious tactics and conservative attitude have permeated the whole squad: because he picked a second-string team and the football was as unambitious and unexciting as it is when the first XI take to the field.
He continued: “Nine away games, one win and six losses is dreadful. That's relegation form, and even if you could argue that Liverpool no longer have a squad good enough for the top four, they ought to be challenging for the top six.
“It's not a new problem for Hodgson. With Fulham his record was: 2008-09, three away league wins; 2009-10, one away league win. It has to be the manager's tactics.
“Hodgson has quickly turned Liverpool into a bigger-budget Fulham: they go out, away from home, not to lose. They should be going out to win.
“Imagine Manchester United or Arsenal playing such dull football, given their reputation and past success.
“It wouldn't be tolerated. Nor should it be at Anfield even if the club isn't the force it once was.
“That's no excuse for failing to entertain and failing to act like the big team Liverpool still are.
He added: “Hodgson remains inflexible, conservative, old-fashioned.”
by worcester_red » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:22 pm
Emerald Red wrote:worcester_red wrote:Emerald Red wrote:rocky29 wrote:listen people may laugh at roys expressions and habits. To me least it shows passion and that he fecking cares. Maybe if our so called stars showed the same grit and determination during matches we wouldnt be in this mess in the first place. Nando are you listening?
Yep. It's all Torres' fault, folks. We're playing dung, minus goal difference, relegation zones, terrible defending in the box from set pieces. It's all "Nando's" fault. The man clearly can't be ar$sed defending and playing through balls to himself.
Oh you mean like the two through balls he's had when he is was one on one with the kepper and fluffing both chances?
You're a laugh. How many has Torres scored for us, yet you single out two chances that he's fluffed? Yeah, you're right - he's sh*t. Flog him. Overrated, lazy so and so that Torres!
, you can't deny that. He is getting the chances and fecking them up.
by Ben Patrick » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:02 pm
Emerald Red wrote:lakes10 wrote:Ciggy wrote:They are finally starting to twig.
http://www.sport.co.uk/news....m_.aspx
Tony Cascarino has lambasted Roy Hodgson’s managerial reign at Anfield, suggesting the under-fire Liverpool boss is failing the club’s rich footballing traditions.
The former Republic of Ireland international claims the results under the ex-Fulham manager have not been good enough, but even more alarmingly for the club’s fans, are the manner in which these poor results have been achieved.
Citing the drab 0-0 draw against Utrecht on Wednesday night, the much maligned football pundit believes Hodgson’s tactics are far too similar to those he implemented at Craven Cottage, and criticises him for turning the footballing institution that is Liverpool into a “bigger-budget Fulham”.
Cascarino told the Times: “Any Liverpool manager has a duty to play with a certain style: fluent, attractive, attacking, passing football.
“Roy Hodgson is not only failing with the results, he's failing in his duty to the club's traditions and to the fans, and that's a pretty serious combination. If you haven't got style, you at least need results.
“The goalless draw against Utrecht in the Europa League on Wednesday confirmed that Hodgson's cautious tactics and conservative attitude have permeated the whole squad: because he picked a second-string team and the football was as unambitious and unexciting as it is when the first XI take to the field.
He continued: “Nine away games, one win and six losses is dreadful. That's relegation form, and even if you could argue that Liverpool no longer have a squad good enough for the top four, they ought to be challenging for the top six.
“It's not a new problem for Hodgson. With Fulham his record was: 2008-09, three away league wins; 2009-10, one away league win. It has to be the manager's tactics.
“Hodgson has quickly turned Liverpool into a bigger-budget Fulham: they go out, away from home, not to lose. They should be going out to win.
“Imagine Manchester United or Arsenal playing such dull football, given their reputation and past success.
“It wouldn't be tolerated. Nor should it be at Anfield even if the club isn't the force it once was.
“That's no excuse for failing to entertain and failing to act like the big team Liverpool still are.
He added: “Hodgson remains inflexible, conservative, old-fashioned.”
Tony who?
You don't know who Tony Cascarino is?
Played for Ireland, Chelsea, Villa and a few French sides. I think he played for Celtic too. Anyway, he was a decent centre forward, especially in France.
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by Emerald Red » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:34 pm
Ben Patrick wrote:Emerald Red wrote:lakes10 wrote:Ciggy wrote:They are finally starting to twig.
http://www.sport.co.uk/news....m_.aspx
Tony Cascarino has lambasted Roy Hodgson’s managerial reign at Anfield, suggesting the under-fire Liverpool boss is failing the club’s rich footballing traditions.
The former Republic of Ireland international claims the results under the ex-Fulham manager have not been good enough, but even more alarmingly for the club’s fans, are the manner in which these poor results have been achieved.
Citing the drab 0-0 draw against Utrecht on Wednesday night, the much maligned football pundit believes Hodgson’s tactics are far too similar to those he implemented at Craven Cottage, and criticises him for turning the footballing institution that is Liverpool into a “bigger-budget Fulham”.
Cascarino told the Times: “Any Liverpool manager has a duty to play with a certain style: fluent, attractive, attacking, passing football.
“Roy Hodgson is not only failing with the results, he's failing in his duty to the club's traditions and to the fans, and that's a pretty serious combination. If you haven't got style, you at least need results.
“The goalless draw against Utrecht in the Europa League on Wednesday confirmed that Hodgson's cautious tactics and conservative attitude have permeated the whole squad: because he picked a second-string team and the football was as unambitious and unexciting as it is when the first XI take to the field.
He continued: “Nine away games, one win and six losses is dreadful. That's relegation form, and even if you could argue that Liverpool no longer have a squad good enough for the top four, they ought to be challenging for the top six.
“It's not a new problem for Hodgson. With Fulham his record was: 2008-09, three away league wins; 2009-10, one away league win. It has to be the manager's tactics.
“Hodgson has quickly turned Liverpool into a bigger-budget Fulham: they go out, away from home, not to lose. They should be going out to win.
“Imagine Manchester United or Arsenal playing such dull football, given their reputation and past success.
“It wouldn't be tolerated. Nor should it be at Anfield even if the club isn't the force it once was.
“That's no excuse for failing to entertain and failing to act like the big team Liverpool still are.
He added: “Hodgson remains inflexible, conservative, old-fashioned.”
Tony who?
You don't know who Tony Cascarino is?
Played for Ireland, Chelsea, Villa and a few French sides. I think he played for Celtic too. Anyway, he was a decent centre forward, especially in France.
if tony cascarino would have criticised Rafa last season people on here would have kicked off saying who the feck are you.
what's the difference now ?
by LFC2007 » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:10 pm
“Hodgson has quickly turned Liverpool into a bigger-budget Fulham: they go out, away from home, not to lose. They should be going out to win."
by Ciggy » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:46 pm
Ben Patrick wrote:if tony cascarino would have criticised Rafa last season people on here would have kicked off saying who the feck are you.
what's the difference now ?
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