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by **Greavesie** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:09 pm

what does criticising Roy have to do with praising R**a?

by **Emerald Red** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:10 pm

rocky29 wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Sorry, fella, it's not me that's embarrassing myself. Hodgson is doing that all on his own. He's a shambles.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the job he's doing. You can criticise without the abuse and the persistent ridicule. And I daren't mention the hypocrisy.

lets hope we win 2moro and then against fulham. So least then we can have week off from the same rafa worshippers!

You just don't have a clue, do you like? This has f*ck all to do with Rafa Benitez. Have you got some sort of mental disabillity that doesn't allow you to think that anyone opposed to Roy being here is doing so because they were a fan of Rafa and not because they can see where Hodgson is taking this taking this football club?

by **Ben Patrick** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:13 pm

Greavesie wrote:what does criticising Roy have to do with praising R**a?

the people that are the most critical (or havent given him a chance from the start) are the ones that still want Rafa here.

Apologies to the fans that are critical of Roy that wanted a change (i am one of them), i just mean the ones that in general resort to the name calling.

by **Emerald Red** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:13 pm

Greavesie wrote:what does criticising Roy have to do with praising R**a?

It's got f*ck all to do with Benitez, but some eejits are just intent on dragging that one out.

by **Ben Patrick** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:16 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
Greavesie wrote:what does criticising Roy have to do with praising R**a?

It's got f*ck all to do with Benitez, but some eejits are just intent on dragging that one out.

did you want Rafa replaced at the end of last season ?

by **Emerald Red** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:19 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:
Greavesie wrote:what does criticising Roy have to do with praising R**a?

the people that are the most critical (or havent given him a chance from the start) are the ones that still want Rafa here.

Apologies to the fans that are critical of Roy that wanted a change (i am one of them), i just mean the ones that in general resort to the name calling.

Regardless of whether or not some people wanted Rafa to still be here, the fact remains that some people didn't want a manager of Roy's credentials here in the first place because, erm, I don't know, maybe they thought we deserved a manager that was a bit more ambitious and a bit more decorated? Maybe we as Liverpool supporters deserved better? I find it absolutely bizarre that some derided the previous manager for stating, at the very least, that we would get fourth, yet when Roy comes out with a press conference of the likes of which he recently has, those people will still defend him? What's going on there, like? Happy to be mid-table, are we? Happy that we have a manager who doesn't seem to give a bollox about what he says? This is the manager of LFC we're talking about here. I don't want to hear the defeatist drivel he's coming out with.

by **Emerald Red** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:21 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
Greavesie wrote:what does criticising Roy have to do with praising R**a?

It's got f*ck all to do with Benitez, but some eejits are just intent on dragging that one out.

did you want Rafa replaced at the end of last season ?

Again, what's that got to do with it? I might not have wanted him replaced, but I sure as f*ck didn't want him replaced with Roy Hodgson for reasons that are as obvious as our away form, not just at us, but at most clubs he's been at.

by **Ben Patrick** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:23 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:
Greavesie wrote:what does criticising Roy have to do with praising R**a?

the people that are the most critical (or havent given him a chance from the start) are the ones that still want Rafa here.

Apologies to the fans that are critical of Roy that wanted a change (i am one of them), i just mean the ones that in general resort to the name calling.

Regardless of whether or not some people wanted Rafa to still be here, the fact remains that some people didn't want a manager of Roy's credentials here in the first place because, erm, I don't know, maybe they thought we deserved a manager that was a bit more ambitious and a bit more decorated? Maybe we as Liverpool supporters deserved better? I find it absolutely bizarre that some derided the previous manager for stating, at the very least, that we would get fourth, yet when Roy comes out with a press conference of the likes of which he recently has, those people will still defend him? What's going on there, like? Happy to be mid-table, are we? Happy that we have a manager who doesn't seem to give a bollox about what he says? This is the manager of LFC we're talking about here. I don't want to hear the defeatist drivel he's coming out with.

maybe he could say we will get fourth, play like sh!t and take Torres off away to Birmingham when we are drawing and finish in seventh and then we would be ok ?

I dont think its great that Roy appears so defeatist but i dont think its the be all and end all.

Did you want Rafa to go at the end of last season ?

by **rocky29** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:25 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:
Greavesie wrote:what does criticising Roy have to do with praising R**a?

the people that are the most critical (or havent given him a chance from the start) are the ones that still want Rafa here.

Apologies to the fans that are critical of Roy that wanted a change (i am one of them), i just mean the ones that in general resort to the name calling.

Regardless of whether or not some people wanted Rafa to still be here, the fact remains that some people didn't want a manager of Roy's credentials here in the first place because, erm, I don't know, maybe they thought we deserved a manager that was a bit more ambitious and a bit more decorated? Maybe we as Liverpool supporters deserved better? I find it absolutely bizarre that some derided the previous manager for stating, at the very least, that we would get fourth, yet when Roy comes out with a press conference of the likes of which he recently has, those people will still defend him? What's going on there, like? Happy to be mid-table, are we? Happy that we have a manager who doesn't seem to give a bollox about what he says? This is the manager of LFC we're talking about here. I don't want to hear the defeatist drivel he's coming out with.

lol he only said that as to not make the same mistake rafa did by saying he would definetely make the top 4. You know what the media are like if he would of said top 4 the media would of said right we will hold you to that. I knew exactly why he said what he did.

by **Ben Patrick** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:29 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
Greavesie wrote:what does criticising Roy have to do with praising R**a?

It's got f*ck all to do with Benitez, but some eejits are just intent on dragging that one out.

did you want Rafa replaced at the end of last season ?

Again, what's that got to do with it? I might not have wanted him replaced, but I sure as f*ck didn't want him replaced with Roy Hodgson for reasons that are as obvious as our away form, not just at us, but at most clubs he's been at.

its got everything to do with it.

like i said the people that are most critical and abusive towards the current manager still want the previous one.
The one that they are conveniently forgetting fecked things up big style last season and continues to do so for the current european champions league holders.

Like i said, you can dress it up how yous like, but yous havent given the fella an ounce of support.
It was a difficult enough job to come into but it hasnt been made any easier by a portion of our own fans.

By the way i like you feel we made the wrong choice in manager, i just dont think he is a senile imbecile.

by **Emerald Red** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:29 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:
Greavesie wrote:what does criticising Roy have to do with praising R**a?

the people that are the most critical (or havent given him a chance from the start) are the ones that still want Rafa here.

Apologies to the fans that are critical of Roy that wanted a change (i am one of them), i just mean the ones that in general resort to the name calling.

Regardless of whether or not some people wanted Rafa to still be here, the fact remains that some people didn't want a manager of Roy's credentials here in the first place because, erm, I don't know, maybe they thought we deserved a manager that was a bit more ambitious and a bit more decorated? Maybe we as Liverpool supporters deserved better? I find it absolutely bizarre that some derided the previous manager for stating, at the very least, that we would get fourth, yet when Roy comes out with a press conference of the likes of which he recently has, those people will still defend him? What's going on there, like? Happy to be mid-table, are we? Happy that we have a manager who doesn't seem to give a bollox about what he says? This is the manager of LFC we're talking about here. I don't want to hear the defeatist drivel he's coming out with.

maybe he could say we will get fourth, play like sh!t and take Torres off away to Birmingham when we are drawing and finish in seventh and then we would be ok ?

I dont think its great that Roy appears so defeatist but i dont think its the be all and end all.

Did you want Rafa to go at the end of last season ?

F*ck me, I might as well put a head banging against the wall gif in reply to this. What the f*ck is wrong with you? So you prefer to have someone in charge of the team you support that throws the white flag in whilst taking absolutely no blame whatsoever for the performances (which are lied about) and instead deflects the blame onto his players? Well done, fella. You probably deserve to be watching the sh*te Hodsgon's dishing out week in, week out.

by **Emerald Red** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:31 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:its got everything to do with it.

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Are your eyes painted on? I'm telling you this straight from my perspective: it's got f*ck all to do with Benitez regarding my opinion of Roy Hodgson! Clear enough now?

by **LFC2007** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:32 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:
Greavesie wrote:what does criticising Roy have to do with praising R**a?

the people that are the most critical (or havent given him a chance from the start) are the ones that still want Rafa here.

And who defended Rafa against the abuse and ridicule that ensued following his "facts" rant - from those who charged that he was "cracking up" under the pressure, analogous to having a "nervous breakdown", or having a neurological disorder - indeed, exactly the kind of abuse they now employ to attack Roy. How would you describe such people?

by **Emerald Red** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:33 pm

rocky29 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:
Greavesie wrote:what does criticising Roy have to do with praising R**a?

the people that are the most critical (or havent given him a chance from the start) are the ones that still want Rafa here.

Apologies to the fans that are critical of Roy that wanted a change (i am one of them), i just mean the ones that in general resort to the name calling.

Regardless of whether or not some people wanted Rafa to still be here, the fact remains that some people didn't want a manager of Roy's credentials here in the first place because, erm, I don't know, maybe they thought we deserved a manager that was a bit more ambitious and a bit more decorated? Maybe we as Liverpool supporters deserved better? I find it absolutely bizarre that some derided the previous manager for stating, at the very least, that we would get fourth, yet when Roy comes out with a press conference of the likes of which he recently has, those people will still defend him? What's going on there, like? Happy to be mid-table, are we? Happy that we have a manager who doesn't seem to give a bollox about what he says? This is the manager of LFC we're talking about here. I don't want to hear the defeatist drivel he's coming out with.

lol he only said that as to not make the same mistake rafa did by saying he would definetely make the top 4. You know what the media are like if he would of said top 4 the media would of said right we will hold you to that. I knew exactly why he said what he did.

Aye, whatever you say.

by **NANNY RED** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:36 pm

rocky29 wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:Not even gonna go there greavesie lad, as far as im concerned Lucas stepping up is down to Lucas, He took the sh.ite that was thrown at him and sometimes it was rightly deserved along with a few others i could mention, but he got his head down ,beefed himself up a bit by bringing in his own personal trainer , as i said he got his head down and grafted , hes sussed when to pass and when to play the ball not just side to side , he works hard on the pitch, and that is down to himself , not Roy or Rafa ,so as far as im concerned he at this moment deserves his shirt in the side ,

i agree about what he has done for himself there is no doubt he has grafted and worked hard.
Hass his personal trainer taught him how to pass forwards though ?
Or just maybe he has been given a bit of encouragement and freedom to do that this season

I remember Alonso saying something about Rafa after he left wanting to control almost everything about what the players did on the pitch. Maybe he was always instructed to give it simple ?

Its funny how some can totally disregard a players improvement might have a tiny bit to do with the manager.

nanny will never give roy a compliment because her gang boss may ban her from the rafa cult christmas party.

Will you fu.ckin shut up about gangs, your doin my head in, ill bet your one of these little kids who long to be in a gang an youve been told to do one soft lad, seriously you are goin over the top on this gang lark,

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