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bavlondon wrote:

Thommo's perm wrote:This thread just about sums up what is wrong with our club at the minute. Im not going to go into the part Benitez has played in our downfall (thats what it is folks) because theres no point. What I will say is that Ive seen enough to know that Roy is not the man to turn us round and into a major force again. To be honest I dont know who is. Certainly not Kenny, because as much as I love the man for what he did for LFC, he is, was and probably always will be a quitter (history books show this) and he has been too long out of the game anyway. So, who else is there? Who is this magic-wand waving miracle worker with divine powers who will come into this disastrous, once great, split-fan based club and drag it off its knees and back onto its feet? Because, looking at that performance from those players, we need a superman not a mere mortal to make us great again.

Can I interject before the former manager's name gets dragged into this.

Might be worth quoting that paragraph nanny posted earlier.

On the radio on the way home from the match I heard pundits and "fans" alike lining up to use that totally invalid excuse. Not saying it's full of quality, but ffs 7 of yesterdays team played in the 4-1 drubbing of Manu and the massacre of Real Madrid.  Of the other 4 I think it's ackowledged that the Greek was a good buy on a shoestring budget, Konchesky and the Raul are Hodgons buys, so that just leaves Maxi - so it must be him who's making us play so No chance it's the manager, it's Rafa's  squad.
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S@int At what point does the responsability fall under the present manager?

Thommo's perm wrote:This thread just about sums up what is wrong with our club at the minute. Im not going to go into the part Benitez has played in our downfall (thats what it is folks) because theres no point. What I will say is that Ive seen enough to know that Roy is not the man to turn us round and into a major force again. To be honest I dont know who is. Certainly not Kenny, because as much as I love the man for what he did for LFC, he is, was and probably always will be a quitter (history books show this) and he has been too long out of the game anyway. So, who else is there? Who is this magic-wand waving miracle worker with divine powers who will come into this disastrous, once great, split-fan based club and drag it off its knees and back onto its feet? Because, looking at that performance from those players, we need a superman not a mere mortal to make us great again.

Reg wrote:Is he still here?

What concerns me is what we NEED now is a strong Capello style of character to get the squad focused and give 100%, the maturity to convice the club an supporters that we can compete and the status to attract the right players come a very important january transfer window.

The reality is if Roy stays we must lumber on in agony but even if the new owners boot him out, their prefered style is to bring in a young, upandcoming replacement who likes statistics with no known success record as yet to replace him.

So the encumbent is wrong and I fear the owners replacement policy is wrong as well. This is not the time for Owen Coyle to walk into our changing room and convert water into wine. Its difficult to see a way forward as if we go with the owners, such a manager would ned 3 seasons to find his way.

Exactly
We need a GREAT manager not a good one. And even if we do get him it will take time.
Those who believe this person will turn things around in a couple of games are deluded. He would have to be superman, like I have said.




Nice to see youve stopped drinking Reggie

Number 9 wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

Number 9 wrote:I can't for the life of me why people are still defending Roy....really I'm perplexed!The old..."he deserves our support he's the LFC manager" thing is really commendable.

I fully support him while he is here in the way I want him to win every game,but that's because I love LFC not because I think he is the man for the job.You can support the manger but you can also be realistic and say he is not good enough,cause he is not.
We have played well in 3 games under Roy..Arsenal,UTD and Chelsea...now it does not take a genius to understand that these 3 games are self motivators for players,the managers job here is easy...pick 11 players and occasion delivers the passion....no big team talk or tactical genius required!

In the rest of our games we have been terrible,it's not an exaggeration to say we are playing terrible football(probably amongst the worst in the league)....it's hard to watch!

The club is just too big for the man,he is way out of his depth and under pressure!FFS every time they put the camera on him and ask a few questions he is like a rabbit caught in headlights,he falls apart and says something daft!

I would like to hear why people think he is up to the job.....what he has done so far to earn more time...what they can see that I can't!
Cause simply put,the fact that he is our manager is not enough.

HE could be dangerous for our future.Look at it this way NESV could hand him say £80million at the end of the season..we could finish in the bottom half near the bottom 3 maybe...what quality player would say....."oh I want to go and help Roy with the LFC revival" when UTD,City,Chelsea,Spurs etc are waving money at them too......I can't think of many!

Also the old Rafa left him a sh'it squad excuse does not wash either....OK granted it was not as good as UTD,City etc but he has better players available than most teams in the League....certainly a squad that should be doing better than having Played 13,won 4,drew,lost 5!!

He has to go ASAP...he is getting NOTHING from the players!!

Barry where you been mate? You don't post too much these days.

This place annoys me now!

Everyone is saying if ya support Roy its because you hated Rafa and if you want Roy out its because you loved Rafa....it's sh'ite!

Reg wrote:Is he still here?

What concerns me is what we NEED now is a strong Capello style of character to get the squad focused and give 100%, the maturity to convice the club an supporters that we can compete and the status to attract the right players come a very important january transfer window.

The reality is if Roy stays we must lumber on in agony but even if the new owners boot him out, their prefered style is to bring in a young, upandcoming replacement who likes statistics with no known success record as yet to replace him.

So the encumbent is wrong and I fear the owners replacement policy is wrong as well. This is not the time for Owen Coyle to walk into our changing room and convert water into wine. Its difficult to see a way forward as if we go with the owners, such a manager would ned 3 seasons to find his way.

dawson99 wrote:I think the problem re: hodgson now are the two main factions that are ruining the forum. And we're stubborn.

Me, Mick and Thommo are too pro Roy. In reality Roy is mucking up

Cigs, RBG nan and Bav are too anti Roy. Even after the Cheatski there was hardly a well dnoe.

lakes10 wrote:what about the ones that did not like Rafa but dont like Roy that much lol.....i dont think i have a camp to sit in right now lol

laza wrote:

dawson99 wrote:I think the problem re: hodgson now are the two main factions that are ruining the forum. And we're stubborn.

Me, Mick and Thommo are too pro Roy. In reality Roy is mucking up

Cigs, RBG nan and Bav are too anti Roy. Even after the Cheatski there was hardly a well dnoe.

Well you cant get fairer then that assessment

Ban the lot of them Mods  and place will be hunky dory again

whats her name..err.. the Paraguayan model is requesting you to pick up the phone 

dawson99 wrote:Lakes, you got a camp all of your own, you're special

i am always told i am "special" but most put "needs" on the end lol

dawson99 wrote:Lakes, you got a camp all of your own, you're special

And he goes to it on a yellow bus!