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by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:13 pm

A top season ?! Really ??

by **bigmick** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:15 pm

We needed to change the previous manager because the players didn't want to play for him any more. We could have changed all the players instead I suppose and embarked on a 10 year rebuilding programme, but changing the manager was easier and made more sense. It remains to be seen whether or not we chose the right bloke to replace him.

It looks to me though like we didn't choose the right guy. My guess is that Roy will do better than Benitez, but not by far enough to make him the correct choice. Quite what those that say Roy is a sh!t manager will say if he ends up winning our first trophy for five seasons or finishing higher than Rafa did most recently I'm fecked if I know. It'll be fun watching it though :laugh:

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by **dawson99** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:17 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:A top season ?! Really ??

could Rafa have done as well with Fulham?

Fulham had a great season mate...

by **taff** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:24 pm

bigmick wrote:We needed to change the previous manager because the players didn't want to play for him any more. We could have changed all the players instead I suppose and embarked on a 10 year rebuilding programme, but changing the manager was easier and made more sense. It remains to be seen whether or not we chose the right bloke to replace him.

It looks to me though like we didn't choose the right guy. My guess is that Roy will do better than Benitez, but not by far enough to make him the correct choice. Quite what those that say Roy is a sh!t manager will say if he ends up winning our first trophy for five seasons or finishing higher than Rafa did most recently I'm fecked if I know. It'll be fun watching it though .

Can we put to bed once and for all the rumour that the players didnt want to play for him anymore unless you can attach a quote or something as I have heard different.

This CONTINUOUS bickering is getting more ridiculous

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:25 pm

bigmick wrote:We needed to change the previous manager because the players didn't want to play for him any more. We could have changed all the players instead I suppose and embarked on a 10 year rebuilding programme, but changing the manager was easier and made more sense. It remains to be seen whether or not we chose the right bloke to replace him.

It looks to me though like we didn't choose the right guy. My guess is that Roy will do better than Benitez, but not by far enough to make him the correct choice. Quite what those that say Roy is a sh!t manager will say if he ends up winning our first trophy for five seasons or finishing higher than Rafa did most recently I'm fecked if I know. It'll be fun watching it though .

The highlighted bit - pure specualtion with so far still no concrete evidence to back up

Second highlighted bit something you keep suggesting - im pretty sure 99.9% of Liverpool fans would be delighted if he won a trophy - We are off course Liverpool fans and we all want us to be a successful team amongst the elite of Europe .

Obviously people believe current manager will not give us that but that doesnt and never will suggest that they dont want him to succeed and suggesting as such is pretty disgracefull tbh .

by **bigmick** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:27 pm

taff wrote:This CONTINUOUS bickering is getting more ridiculous

Not only is it geting more ridiculous, it is feck all to do with the thread. There is a perfectly good Rafa Benitez thread in the area of the forum where it ought to be, why people can't just post there is beyond me. In certain threads you get carded if you derail them, in others you don't.

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:27 pm

dawson99 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:A top season ?! Really ??

could Rafa have done as well with Fulham?

Fulham had a great season mate...

could Rafa have done as well with Fulham?

Who knows - he could off

Fulham had a great season mate...

Depends what you class as a great season i suppose

As for the LMA award - Moyes has won it three times

by **Bad Bob** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:32 pm

Okay, I'm afraid I'm going to have to insist we call time on Benny's Grand Inquisition and move on. I think we can all plainly see that there is never going to be any substantial agreement between those who think Rafa's time was up and those that think it wasn't. I think all sides have had their say on the matter, explained their respective views at length and we've reached the "agree to disagree" phase of the proceedings. I'm also pretty sure this isn't the Rafa thread and that there have been some suggestions of late that deviations from the thread topic be discouraged. So, for the love of all that is holy, can everyone just stand down now?

by **tubby** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:33 pm

dawson99 wrote:I wanted a different approach from the new manager.

Well we got that. Happy? :laugh:

by **dawson99** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:34 pm

bavlondon wrote:
dawson99 wrote:I wanted a different approach from the new manager.

Well we got that. Happy?

I'm happier yeah

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:34 pm

Bad Bob wrote:Okay, I'm afraid I'm going to have to insist we call time on Benny's Grand Inquisition and move on. I think we can all plainly see that there is never going to be any substantial agreement between those who think Rafa's time was up and those that think it wasn't. I think all sides have had their say on the matter, explained their respective views at length and we've reached the "agree to disagree" phase of the proceedings. I'm also pretty sure this isn't the Rafa thread and that there have been some suggestions of late that deviations from the thread topic are discouraged. So, for the love of all that is holy, can everyone just stand down now?

Quite happy to agree to disagree Bob - can i also ask (if its ok ) that people stop suggesting that fans will be unhappy if we win a trophy or if we beat Chelsea etc as i find it quite insulting and im sure a number of people do when someone suggests such a thing .

Thanks

by **bigmick** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:35 pm

It says it all that in the thread about our current manager, half of the people at least only want to talk about the previous one. They say "what he needs to do is to win football matches" and he is doing. Our last three results have been very positive. They say about the press conferences, and he kind of offered an olive branch to the previous manager which was nice. We play Chelsea at the weekend, and if by hook or by crook we can win that, we are going to be right on the edge of where we want to be. Not playing great, bt getting there. We then have a run of very nice looking fixtures.

he has adapted his style a tad, we are playing better, things are looking up. We're on the "Roy Hodgson" thread, and what do people want to talk about? Says it all really.

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:40 pm

bigmick wrote:It says it all that in the thread about our current manager, half of the people at least only want to talk about the previous one. They say "what he needs to do is to win football matches" and he is doing. Our last three results have been very positive. They say about the press conferences, and he kind of offered an olive branch to the previous manager which was nice. We play Chelsea at the weekend, and if by hook or by crook we can win that, we are going to be right on the edge of where we want to be. Not playing great, bt getting there. We then have a run of very nice looking fixtures.

he has adapted his style a tad, we are playing better, things are looking up. We're on the "Roy Hodgson" thread, and what do people want to talk about? Says it all really.

And people have said he needs to keep going - winning two games - one where we played very well and one where we got away with a win isnt a whole season just yet . Its a tiny start - one that now needs to be built on , improvements still need to be made and step forwards still need to be done . Two games dont make people forget the games before hand - another 6 or 7 or 8 or even ten games with performances and points and then the displays against Blackpool Everton etc get forgotten about .

But it still doesnt suggest that people want us to lose or people wont be happy even if we win a trophy . So can you please cut that sort of talk out - its insulting .

by **Bad Bob** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:42 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:Okay, I'm afraid I'm going to have to insist we call time on Benny's Grand Inquisition and move on. I think we can all plainly see that there is never going to be any substantial agreement between those who think Rafa's time was up and those that think it wasn't. I think all sides have had their say on the matter, explained their respective views at length and we've reached the "agree to disagree" phase of the proceedings. I'm also pretty sure this isn't the Rafa thread and that there have been some suggestions of late that deviations from the thread topic are discouraged. So, for the love of all that is holy, can everyone just stand down now?

Quite happy to agree to disagree Bob - can i also ask (if its ok ) that people stop suggesting that fans will be unhappy if we win a trophy or if we beat Chelsea etc as i find it quite insulting and im sure a number of people do when someone suggests such a thing .

Thanks

Yes, it's insulting--just as it was last year when it was directed at the Rafa critics. However, two wrongs don't make a right and such stirring is strongly discouraged.

With that agreed, maybe we could now have a break from the relentless interrogations? Ta.

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:43 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:Okay, I'm afraid I'm going to have to insist we call time on Benny's Grand Inquisition and move on. I think we can all plainly see that there is never going to be any substantial agreement between those who think Rafa's time was up and those that think it wasn't. I think all sides have had their say on the matter, explained their respective views at length and we've reached the "agree to disagree" phase of the proceedings. I'm also pretty sure this isn't the Rafa thread and that there have been some suggestions of late that deviations from the thread topic are discouraged. So, for the love of all that is holy, can everyone just stand down now?

Quite happy to agree to disagree Bob - can i also ask (if its ok ) that people stop suggesting that fans will be unhappy if we win a trophy or if we beat Chelsea etc as i find it quite insulting and im sure a number of people do when someone suggests such a thing .

Thanks

Yes, it's insulting--just as it was last year when it was directed at the Rafa critics. However, two wrongs don't make a right and such stirring is strongly discouraged.

With that agreed, maybe we could now have a break from the relentless interrogations? Ta.

No worries mate .

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