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by **Reinas No.1 Fan** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:52 pm

stmichael wrote:some of the bile and jealousy from rival fans over this move is just hilarious. "he's only moved for the money" blah blah blah.

we dont have any lol

by **andy_g** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:52 pm

Scottbot wrote:
andy_g wrote:seen you mention this a couple of times scott. why do you think so? i'd be hugely surprised myself...

I guess it all depends on Hodgson's assessment of the squad dude. If he's not happy with certain areas of the squad he's gonna have to sell to buy i'd guess. Cole's arrival is a threat to Aquilani's position because he can play through the middle, he can play off the striker, he likes to play between the lines. It depends on how the manager is planning to utilise Cole but if it's through the middle (and Cole indicated that was where he wanted to play + perhaps that had a bearing on him joining LFC, could be Benny?) then Alberto may find himself expendable. Cole also has the advantage of having proved himself in the Premier League + he is capable of playing on either flank. Also, if we're planning a lot 4-4-2 this season I just can't see Aquilani getting the nod as one of a midfield two.

i'm not even sure if the possible sale of mascherano will have much of an effect on aquilani's future. if he goes and we're a midfielder light then aquilani isn't the guy to fill that gap anyway.

i'm guessing that hodgson will keep him knowing that he has a 20 million rated player on his hands that is freshly fit and ready and has shown in fits and starts what he's capable of. seeing as we are so light down the left now (as we always have been, it feels like) i wouldn't be surprised to see cole playing out there a fair bit, despite the presence of jovanovic. if he doesn't then he's a good option as 'second striker' or the more forward of a midfield two. he's more verstaile than aquilani but i don't think he replaces him, in fact they could easily play together in my view.

having both aquilani and cole in the squad gives us a lot of strength, creativity and options in the advanced midfield department. i like it.

by **Scottbot** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:57 pm

andy_g wrote:i'm guessing that hodgson will keep him knowing that he has a 20 million rated player on his hands that is freshly fit and ready and has shown in fits and starts what he's capable of. seeing as we are so light down the left now (as we always have been, it feels like) i wouldn't be surprised to see cole playing out there a fair bit, despite the presence of jovanovic. if he doesn't then he's a good option as 'second striker' or the more forward of a midfield two. he's more verstaile than aquilani but i don't think he replaces him, in fact they could easily play together in my view.

having both aquilani and cole in the squad gives us a lot of strength, creativity and options in the advanced midfield department. i like it.

I'd like us to keep Aquilani myself dude, i'm not sold on the player but there's no doubt he is talented player. I think it would/will all depend on the strength of the market out there for him. If Hodgson wants to strengthen other areas and the only way he could do that is by selling a couple of players then I'd imagine a bid in excess of£12 million might tempt him. I guess we'll find out pretty soon.

PS. Good shout on the left of midfield, we're actually looking quite crowded out there all of a sudden with Riera, Babel, Jovanovic and now Cole. Maybe it's Babel's position that is most under threat?

by **Rimetto_** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:57 pm

burjennio wrote:In other news, why do we have no left backs?

That has to be the main worry for us going in to the new season unless he's thinking of playing agger there!

Not sure who we could bring in to fill that gap - not really got a player that jumps to my mind that we could afford

by **maguskwt** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:59 pm

bigmick wrote:
maguskwt wrote:
bigmick wrote:Fourthly and lastly (you'll be pleased to know), it shows that we have a manager who is well able to play his cards close to his chest yet come up with the goods. People said Purslow sold Benayoun and Roy had nothing to do with it, they said Purslow was doing the signing and the selling. I don't believe that to be true, I think it's Roy. Whoever it is though, 6 mill for Benayoun then Cole on a free is absolutely fantastic business by any standards.

Top man Roy Hodgson

Didn't you say just recently that the tracking of Joe cole was probably initiated by the PREVIOUS manager or something along that line? And that the PREVIOUS manager must have been heavily involved in the Benayoun deal as well?

Then surely credit must also go to the PREVIOUS manager and why change your tune now?

I'm not changing my tune at Magus, what a strange comment Unlike some on here, I'm more than prepared to pay credit where it is due. Now undoubtedly the previous manager will have been interested in Cole, four of the other five teams in the top seven (except of course Cheslea as they were selling him) were interested in Joe Cole and tried to get him. He's obviously a good player, an England international on a free, and I've no doubt our previous manager was well aware of the fact, fair play to him. Being interested in him and signing him however are different things, ask Harry Redknapp and Arsene Wenger if you don't believe me.

Now as I said in my post which you refer to, Cole has been widely quoted as saying he wanted a manager who "loved him", who would "talk to him', would "trust him" and "believe in him". None of us know of course if the previous manager would have been able to entice Cole to turn down the two London clubs, but Roy did and for that he deserves credit.

I'm more than happy though to give credit to whoever deserves it.

Fair enough bigmick... I don't want to argue too much anymore... I just thought I saw in one of your posts (I don't know whether it's in this thread or Insua thread) that "the previous manager must have been heavily involved in the benayoun deal as well. And fair play to him that was a good deal as well"... something along that line...

Now all of a sudden the selling of Benayoun for 6 million and acquiring Joe Cole for free is all down to Roy...

But anyway I must have misinterpreted your stance and nevertheless this IS a good deal...

by **Ian Rush's Right foot** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:00 pm

For me we have Top Class players in

Gerrard, (Anfield Legend)
Torres, (Prolific Talisman)
Kuyt, (hard working, helped Holland to world cup Final)
Reina,(best keeper in the league)
Johnson, (best attacking right back in the league)
Cole,(an english luis garcia - genuine defense unlocking ability)
Jovonovic (60plus goals from 140 odd games for club & country)
Babel & Aqualini (have real potential if nutured)
Skertal & Agger (Solid premiership CB's)
Mascharano (best holding mid in the world & if he goes he will do for bucketloads)

add the youngsters coming through like, Ayala,Pacheco, Spearing, and Shelvey (will make a huge impact this year imo)

and the Squad players like, Maxi, Lucas, Carra, etc

Then add a new LB, like Figaroua or Bridge.

There is no reason why we shouldn't be challenging for the Title.

REMEMBER, WE ARE LIVERPOOL FC. We are different to other clubs our fans believe in the club, in the team and in each other!!!

by **Scottbot** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:00 pm

Rimetto_ wrote:
burjennio wrote:In other news, why do we have no left backs?

That has to be the main worry for us going in to the new season unless he's thinking of playing agger there!

Not sure who we could bring in to fill that gap - not really got a player that jumps to my mind that we could afford

Figeroa seems the most likely given the press rumours I'd guess. Wayne Bridge could be another possibility given that City are in the process of splashing £17 million on another left back.

by **tubby** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:01 pm

Scottbot wrote:
Rimetto_ wrote:
burjennio wrote:In other news, why do we have no left backs?

That has to be the main worry for us going in to the new season unless he's thinking of playing agger there!

Not sure who we could bring in to fill that gap - not really got a player that jumps to my mind that we could afford

Figeroa seems the most likely given the press rumours I'd guess. Wayne Bridge could be another possibility given that City are in the process of splashing £17 million on another left back.

Looks like they are also about to get Balotelli too.

by **maguskwt** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:03 pm

I actually think the kid is better than most on here give him credit for, but 5 mill is in my opinion good money for him. As for who sanctioned it, well almost certainly the previous manager will have been heavily involved in the early stages of the negotiations before he left. I've no doubt that if the offer had been made to buy Insua for 5 million quid while he was still at the club, he'd have taken it in a heartbeat. Much the same as he was involved in the Benayoun sale, and fair play to him that was a good deal too.

Right here is your post bigmick...

by **7_Kewell** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:03 pm

Cole is TWICE the player that benny is. If you don't believe me, ask a chelsea fan for their opinions on this deal. We have 2 in our office and they are pretty sick.

by **andy_g** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:05 pm

Scottbot wrote:Figeroa seems the most likely given the press rumours I'd guess. Wayne Bridge could be another possibility given that City are in the process of splashing £17 million on another left back.

really hope its figeroa out of those two. in my opinion wayne bridge was the only left back weaker than insua out of the top seven teams last season.

btw, scott - i'm not stalking you, mate, even though it might look like it

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:08 pm

Just to clarify my point - the cole I saw playing for Chelsea last season was no better than Yossi . The Cole previous to his injury was twice the player Yossi is . Once again just my opinion of what I saw last season - so much so that Ancelotti preffered Kalou to Cole the majority of time hence him being on the bench a lot . Let's hope he recovers the form and hope he passes the medical first as he still isn't a Liverpool player and the signing is subject to said medical

by **parchpea** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:09 pm

If Cole passes the medical its a very good addition. I assume assurances about where he will play in the side have swung it not to mention the monster wages! Free is a bit misleading when you are looking at a reported £4.5m a year in wages over 4 years for a 28 year old but bizarre as it is thats what these boys cost. Most people, including Cole himself seem to have the impression hes been in the wrong place at the wrong time, misunderstood, and used incorrectly, but he will surely have no excuses now. This is his chance to prove his previous managers at Chelsea and the England gaffer wrong by putting in a shift every week and producing the goods for Liverpool FC. Fingers crossed the lad can deliver.

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:10 pm

andy_g wrote:
Scottbot wrote:Figeroa seems the most likely given the press rumours I'd guess. Wayne Bridge could be another possibility given that City are in the process of splashing £17 million on another left back.

really hope its figeroa out of those two. in my opinion wayne bridge was the only left back weaker than insua out of the top seven teams last season.

btw, scott - i'm not stalking you, mate, even though it might look like it

There is also rumours of Koncesky being looked at as well ?!

by **Greavesie** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:10 pm

stmichael wrote:some of the bile and jealousy from rival fans over this move is just hilarious. "he's only moved for the money" blah blah blah.

listening to the Arsenal fan on SSN saying he's relieved he didn't go to Arsenal :laugh:

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