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Postby 7_Kewell » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:48 pm

in my view this is a load of tosh.  Torres wont commit to LFC until he speaks to our new manager and finds out what the deal is with new players and the like. that isn't unusual. But the media have taken this as fact that he'll go.

I'm confident he'll stay, for 1 more season at least.
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Postby Number 9 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:00 pm

:laugh:

Yeah Roman has flown to SA to unrest a player when he is about to play in a semi final...Who makes this sh'ite up?
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Postby Scottbot » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:34 pm

bigmick wrote:Lakes, I can also reveal that there is a chance is he will be still here next season. In fact, unconfirmed reports eminating from my window cleaner are indicating that he will either stay, or he will go. My window cleaner is never wrong on such matters, so I'll keep everyone posted.

I actually think Lakes's post was the more speculative of the two!
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Postby Scottbot » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:44 pm

bavlondon wrote:Quoted of another forum.

Well, considering Torres does not wish to discuss club matters during the world cup, especially as they have a big game tomorrow and the fact Liverpool would have to give permission to Abramovich/Rent Boys to actually speak to him, you can guarantee that the papers claiming this are once again full of :censored:.

As Chelsea and Man City are the new media darlings due to their mega money rather than non existent histories, of course the papers would love to see players of Torres' calibre at these clubs. If the media get an opportunity to attempt to 'unsettle' our best players in the hope of jumping ship to their darlings you can bet they will grab it and print whatever :censored: they can to assist them.
99.9% of articles are without quotes, those WITH quotes are actually 'misquotes' or 'made-up quotes'.

Torres will honour his contract at most, at the least, he will give us 1 more season and if he leaves, I am without doubt that it WILL NOT be to another English club. I do seriously believe Torres will consider the fans who adore him IF/WHEN he eventually moves on.

I'd be inclined to go with that final paragraph of this post. I think he'll give us another season or at least until the January transfer window. I can't see him pushing through a move to Chelsea or City unless the club out and out accepts a bid for the player. I still think Barca is the most likely destination if they can come up with the big money. He stayed at Atletico far longer than many expected despite being linked with many big clubs and I think in his heart he wants to stay at LFC. I believe he'll wait it out to see if the club can be sold + whether Hodgson can come in and do a decent job this season.

I think the World Cup is deffo working in our favour though. I don't believe he's thinking about anything else other than the national side and his form at the moment.
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Postby roberto green » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:41 pm

bavlondon wrote:This should probably be best discusses in the Torres thread so ill just say this. If his heart isn't 100% with Liverpool then he should go. But how much of that money would go to Roy to spend? 40Mil?

I wouldn't even say that much I would say 10m, you only have to see how Ronaldo paid some of the debt the mancs owe, 7om last summer and they never bought anyone of real note
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Postby tubby » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:46 pm

Number 9 wrote: :laugh:

Yeah Roman has flown to SA to unrest a player when he is about to play in a semi final...Who makes this sh'ite up?

When you put it like that  :laugh:

I liked it better when the press were more concerned with how :censored: England are.
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Postby puroresu » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:29 am

Just got back from holiday.  Heard the news out there.  Disappointed is an understatement but lets hope its a success.
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Postby bigmick » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:26 am

Disappointed in what news mate, that Roy Hodgson is our new manager? If it is that, I think once you've had chance to look over his record throughout his career, see him interviewed and hear his thoughts about football, listen to what people in the game think about him, your disappointment will dissipate a bit. It's quite possible if many are to be believed that we will be operating under the strictest financial restrictions and that our star players are going to be sold from under the managers nose, so we are going to need a new breed of manager. We are going to need someone who can maximise the assets at his disposal, someone who knows the Premiership inside out, someone who doesn't over complicate things, puts square pegs in square holes, who can put all distractions aside and concentrate on doing the best he possibly can with the first team etc etc.

For jobs like that you don't need a Pelligrini, or a Juande Ramos. The last thing you need is baby food and mass rotation, a succession of Carlos Kickaballs going in and out of the exit door etc etc. You need a common sense no nonsense football man.

There were three candidates who were credible IMHO. Kenny Dalglish, Roy Hodgson and Martin O Neill. They were for me in reverse order as I typed them, and I'm very happy to have Roy Hodgson at the helm in these difficult times.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:30 am

bigmick wrote:Disappointed in what news mate, that Roy Hodgson is our new manager? If it is that, I think once you've had chance to look over his record throughout his career, see him interviewed and hear his thoughts about football, listen to what people in the game think about him, your disappointment will dissipate a bit. It's quite possible if many are to be believed that we will be operating under the strictest financial restrictions and that our star players are going to be sold from under the managers nose, so we are going to need a new breed of manager. We are going to need someone who can maximise the assets at his disposal, someone who knows the Premiership inside out, someone who doesn't over complicate things, puts square pegs in square holes, who can put all distractions aside and concentrate on doing the best he possibly can with the first team etc etc.

For jobs like that you don't need a Pelligrini, or a Juande Ramos. The last thing you need is baby food and mass rotation, a succession of Carlos Kickaballs going in and out of the exit door etc etc. You need a common sense no nonsense football man.

There were three candidates who were credible IMHO. Kenny Dalglish, Roy Hodgson and Martin O Neill. They were for me in reverse order as I typed them, and I'm very happy to have Roy Hodgson at the helm in these difficult times.

You've forgot to add "not a control freak and doesnt talk sh'ite" to his cv...
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Postby bigmick » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:40 am

Thommo's perm wrote:

bigmick wrote:Disappointed in what news mate, that Roy Hodgson is our new manager? If it is that, I think once you've had chance to look over his record throughout his career, see him interviewed and hear his thoughts about football, listen to what people in the game think about him, your disappointment will dissipate a bit. It's quite possible if many are to be believed that we will be operating under the strictest financial restrictions and that our star players are going to be sold from under the managers nose, so we are going to need a new breed of manager. We are going to need someone who can maximise the assets at his disposal, someone who knows the Premiership inside out, someone who doesn't over complicate things, puts square pegs in square holes, who can put all distractions aside and concentrate on doing the best he possibly can with the first team etc etc.

For jobs like that you don't need a Pelligrini, or a Juande Ramos. The last thing you need is baby food and mass rotation, a succession of Carlos Kickaballs going in and out of the exit door etc etc. You need a common sense no nonsense football man.

There were three candidates who were credible IMHO. Kenny Dalglish, Roy Hodgson and Martin O Neill. They were for me in reverse order as I typed them, and I'm very happy to have Roy Hodgson at the helm in these difficult times.

You've forgot to add "not a control freak and doesnt talk sh'ite" to his cv...
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No I haven't forgotten to add that mate, although people with those particular attributes are rarely if ever what you really need. I'm really talking about the here and now and not getting involved in any of that. What's gone before is only relevent in terms of where it leaves us right now (7th in the league) and in the fact that any new manager will rightly be expected to improve upon what was left for him. I'm just saying that the best way of achieving those goals (which obviously everyone shares, everyone wants the team to improve) is in my opinion to go for someone like Roy Hodgson.

Obviously if we keep the same team and finish worse than 7th, then I'll be the first to admit that there's a significant possibility I called it wrong. Even then though, I do believe any new manager deserves AT LEAST three seasons to see what he's really about. More likely is that some of our best players will be sold off, and the new manager will have a significantly shallower pool of talent to choose from than we are used to.

I'm probably being way over optimistic and positive here again (as per usual), but even in that scenario though I'm hopeful he'll improve us. It won't be long before we'll find out thankfully.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:51 am

bigmick wrote:
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bigmick wrote:Disappointed in what news mate, that Roy Hodgson is our new manager? If it is that, I think once you've had chance to look over his record throughout his career, see him interviewed and hear his thoughts about football, listen to what people in the game think about him, your disappointment will dissipate a bit. It's quite possible if many are to be believed that we will be operating under the strictest financial restrictions and that our star players are going to be sold from under the managers nose, so we are going to need a new breed of manager. We are going to need someone who can maximise the assets at his disposal, someone who knows the Premiership inside out, someone who doesn't over complicate things, puts square pegs in square holes, who can put all distractions aside and concentrate on doing the best he possibly can with the first team etc etc.

For jobs like that you don't need a Pelligrini, or a Juande Ramos. The last thing you need is baby food and mass rotation, a succession of Carlos Kickaballs going in and out of the exit door etc etc. You need a common sense no nonsense football man.

There were three candidates who were credible IMHO. Kenny Dalglish, Roy Hodgson and Martin O Neill. They were for me in reverse order as I typed them, and I'm very happy to have Roy Hodgson at the helm in these difficult times.

You've forgot to add "not a control freak and doesnt talk sh'ite" to his cv...
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No I haven't forgotten to add that mate, although people with those particular attributes are rarely if ever what you really need. I'm really talking about the here and now and not getting involved in any of that. What's gone before is only relevent in terms of where it leaves us right now (7th in the league) and in the fact that any new manager will rightly be expected to improve upon what was left for him. I'm just saying that the best way of achieving those goals (which obviously everyone shares, everyone wants the team to improve) is in my opinion to go for someone like Roy Hodgson.

Obviously if we keep the same team and finish worse than 7th, then I'll be the first to admit that there's a significant possibility I called it wrong. Even then though, I do believe any new manager deserves AT LEAST three seasons to see what he's really about. More likely is that some of our best players will be sold off, and the new manager will have a significantly shallower pool of talent to choose from than we are used to.

I'm probably being way over optimistic and positive here again (as per usual), but even in that scenario though I'm hopeful he'll improve us. It won't be long before we'll find out thankfully.

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Postby Thommo's perm » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:04 am

bigmick wrote:
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bigmick wrote:Disappointed in what news mate, that Roy Hodgson is our new manager? If it is that, I think once you've had chance to look over his record throughout his career, see him interviewed and hear his thoughts about football, listen to what people in the game think about him, your disappointment will dissipate a bit. It's quite possible if many are to be believed that we will be operating under the strictest financial restrictions and that our star players are going to be sold from under the managers nose, so we are going to need a new breed of manager. We are going to need someone who can maximise the assets at his disposal, someone who knows the Premiership inside out, someone who doesn't over complicate things, puts square pegs in square holes, who can put all distractions aside and concentrate on doing the best he possibly can with the first team etc etc.

For jobs like that you don't need a Pelligrini, or a Juande Ramos. The last thing you need is baby food and mass rotation, a succession of Carlos Kickaballs going in and out of the exit door etc etc. You need a common sense no nonsense football man.

There were three candidates who were credible IMHO. Kenny Dalglish, Roy Hodgson and Martin O Neill. They were for me in reverse order as I typed them, and I'm very happy to have Roy Hodgson at the helm in these difficult times.

You've forgot to add "not a control freak and doesnt talk sh'ite" to his cv...
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No I haven't forgotten to add that mate, although people with those particular attributes are rarely if ever what you really need. I'm really talking about the here and now and not getting involved in any of that. What's gone before is only relevent in terms of where it leaves us right now (7th in the league) and in the fact that any new manager will rightly be expected to improve upon what was left for him. I'm just saying that the best way of achieving those goals (which obviously everyone shares, everyone wants the team to improve) is in my opinion to go for someone like Roy Hodgson.

Obviously if we keep the same team and finish worse than 7th, then I'll be the first to admit that there's a significant possibility I called it wrong. Even then though, I do believe any new manager deserves AT LEAST three seasons to see what he's really about. More likely is that some of our best players will be sold off, and the new manager will have a significantly shallower pool of talent to choose from than we are used to.

I'm probably being way over optimistic and positive here again (as per usual), but even in that scenario though I'm hopeful he'll improve us. It won't be long before we'll find out thankfully.

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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:05 am

Sorry Thomo I fail to see what there is too be excited by at the moment - no cl next season , teams like city buying top players , still having two parasites owning the club , possibility of loosing big players and not replacing them , spending a season fighting for a Europa cup slot , a manager whose track record isn't inspiring . A new start it is but it could well not be a positive start . Hodgson is a very intelligent and well spoken man and has travelled about and very expeirienced with the smaller clubs and is certainly a well liked bloke by people in football - but how many well liked blokes are very successful ! Not many - just look at people like Maureen and taggert - hated by many bar their own fans and the reason why - because they are successful . I truly hope Hodgson proves me wrong and things change for the better .
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Postby Thommo's perm » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:07 am

Benny The Noon wrote:Sorry Thomo I fail to see what there is too be excited by at the moment - no cl next season , teams like city buying top players , still having two parasites owning the club , possibility of loosing big players and not replacing them , spending a season fighting for a Europa cup slot , a manager whose track record isn't inspiring .

Yes but besides that....
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Postby bigmick » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:19 am

Well it's all opinions Benny, and I'm certainly not going to berate you having one. I had that too many times myself to go down that route, but the good thing is we'll soon find out one way or the other.

You can get the good ship "Wearefecked" up and sailing, and if we can't manage to improve on where we currently are (which is surely the ambition for everyone), then by all means I'll row accross in a couple of seasons from the good ship "surelyitcantbeanyworse" and we can swap stories.

I'm pleased to read you think Roy should find it quite easy to improve us if he has the same squad as was available to previous management, we can at least agree on that piece of positivity.
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