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Postby LFC2007 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:27 pm

Another total shambles. For a while this season you could plausibly argue that we were playing reasonably well but not getting the results we deserved, but that isn't the case any more. Six defeats in seven, 16 points off fourth and a point behind the bitters. Tinkering isn't going to solve a problem that big; we need major change in the summer.
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Postby Doeboy » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:52 pm

Another utter shower and i'm getting used to it now. It is so painful to watch and we are heading nowwhere at the moment. It really really pains me to say this but we are pants, that is the honest truth. The cup win papers over the cracks. We have Sh*t players all over the park. Players like Downing, Carroll, Hendersen and Adam would be starters for the likes of Villa, Bolton, Everton but they are squad players for a club like us, not week in week out starters. We need some major surgery this summer and IMO cheque book needs to be given to someone else rather than Kenny. Kenny has seriously ballsed up bringing such a shower of ***** to Anfield and I don't fancy giving him the chequebook in the summer.
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Postby Reg » Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:31 pm

Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

Liverpool are in a hole and they keep digging it deeper.

Comolli, Steve Clark and Kenny need to sit down in the bootroom and discuss this cos it aint working.

Hate to admit it but Kenny's given Carroll every chance to perfrom so time to admit defeat and move him on.
Flano didn't shine, Kelly's the better player. Carra's finished and Wee Jay simply isnt good enough. I just cross my fingers Pepe's here on the first day of next season.

Hard to take that we're back at square one again needinga  complete rebild.
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Postby Simari » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:54 am

League form doesn't lie. Second from bottom only behind Wolves since start of 2012.

Carroll was lively again today, but I just didn't see any linkup with between him, suarez, bellamy or gerrard.
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Postby Reg » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:50 am

Andy Carroll left the pitch swearing at Kenny Dalglish and close to tears. Pepe Reina departed after being shown a red card for his reckless butt on James Perch. Liverpool headed home both pointless and humiliated.

This was a chance for Liverpool to reassert their dominance over Newcastle United, close an eight-point gap and justify the decision by Carroll and José Enrique to leave for supposedly bigger and better things.

Having paid £41 million for the pair, and in the process funded Newcastle’s rebuilding work, Liverpool were expected to underline their supremacy over opposition they had beaten six times in seven meetings.

To say it did not go to plan would be a huge understatement. Rather than restore the natural order, Liverpool were reminded just how far they have fallen and how difficult it will be to climb back.

Newcastle were excellent and in Papiss Demba Cissé they have signed a jewel. His two goals yesterday mean he has scored seven in as many games since his January move from Freiburg, two more than Carroll has managed in 36 league appearances for Liverpool.

It is a brutal statistic that Newcastle should feel smug about, given that he cost less than a third of the fee Liverpool paid for Carroll, their former No 9.

Liverpool have never finished lower then eighth in English football’s top flight since Bill Shankly returned them there in 1962. It is a brave man who would bet they will not do so this season, as the team are in disarray.

For all the positives the Carling Cup victory brought — albeit only after a penalty shoot-out victory over a Championship side — and for the satisfaction achieved at reaching the semi-finals of the FA Cup, Liverpool are a pale shadow of the side they once were.

League titles are a thing of the past; so too is the Champions League. On this evidence, coupled with that collected during their previous five defeats in six league games, Liverpool, now below Everton, are in danger of losing ground on the top clubs, not gaining it.

As for Carroll, he does not even resemble the shadow of the player he was when he wore black and white stripes. Liverpool probably should never have paid £35 million for a striker with just six successful months of Premier League football behind him, but few could have predicted he would go so far backwards so fast.

He naively seemed to think he would receive a warm welcome on his first playing return to Tyneside, sheltered by the back slapping and well-wishes he receives whenever he returns for a night out. The venom of the boos and jeers stung.

Carroll should have scored in the first half and his game disintegrated after the interval. When, to no great surprise, he was substituted, red-faced and emotional, he swore at Dalglish — his long-time protector — and flounced down the tunnel.

Tyneside cackled its delight, although the home fans still had Enrique to goad. The Spaniard cynically agitated to leave last summer, refusing to discuss a new contract before criticising Newcastle’s lack of ambition while predicting they would never “challenge for a top-six place”.

They are comments that have come back to haunt him and he looked almost as uncomfortable as Carroll, eventually ending in goal after Reina’s dismissal for his red-mist lunge at Perch, Liverpool having used all their three substitutes.

The Newcastle defender was superb all game and while he made the most of the contact, referee Martin Atkinson was right to show Liverpool’s goalkeeper a red card nine minutes from time.

Liverpool actually started the game brightly, particularly when they attacked down Newcastle’s left-flank where winger Jonás Gutiérrez was deployed as a makeshift full-back.

There were also some encouraging signs from Carroll, who looked dominant in the air, but the Geordie is just not the same player in front of goal.

Beating Mike Williamson in the air, Carroll was able to run on to his own header, skip past the covering Perch to bear down on goalkeeper Tim Krul. The entire stadium held its breath.

Carroll took the ball past Krul, but the goalkeeper withdraw his arm to allow him past. Carroll, anticipating contact that never came, tripped over his own feet. If he had stayed upright, he could have rolled the ball into the empty net; instead he was shown a yellow card for cheating.

The locals roared their delight and then turned their venom on him for diving. Even Alan Pardew berated his former striker.

Krul was needed to turn a deflected cross from Craig Bellamy on to the bar and Carroll also went close with a header after another cross from the Welshman looped up off Williamson.

Liverpool probably should have had a penalty when Danny Simpson prevented Williamson from scoring an own goal with his arm. It was another hard luck story for Dalglish to whinge about, but Newcastle took the lead soon after.

Hatem Ben Arfa picked the ball up on the right, drifted around Jay Spearing and delivered a perfect cross — just over the head of Martin Skrtel – to pick out Cissé, who scored via the inside of the far post.

Newcastle were a different side after that and Cissé should have made it two, but headed wide.

Williamson’s header hit the post early in the second half, but Newcastle’s second goal came when Ben Arfa caused panic in the Liverpool defence, combined with Demba Ba, before the ball found its way to Cissé who finished well again.

The striker had been in an offside position, but the goal stood as he had not been active in the first phase of play.
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Postby CraigBedworth » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:15 pm

Has Kenny lost the faith of the players?
Bill Shankly : "If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win"
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Postby Basil » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:27 am

I was surprised at  Gerrards attitude when Kenny walked onto the pitch after the Reina incident, Gerrard shouted at Kenny and waved his hand in a "get off the fu*ckin* pitch" sort of gesture.

It reminded me of his attitude towards Roy like he had no respect for him at all.

Along with the alleged Reina/Carragher incidents it doesn't seem a happy camp which is not surprising after the recent results but perhaps things are worse than we thought ?
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Postby Reg » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:16 am

CraigBedworth » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:15 pm wrote:Has Kenny lost the faith of the players?


Have I lost have in Gerrard and Carra?
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Postby Kopite-Jud » Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:57 pm

This is a sham now, we have replaced world class players for utter sh!te

Torres - Carroll
Alonso - Adam or Henderson
Mascherano - Spearing (Lucas is class but out till next season)

We need CLASS players NOW, Kenny needs to accept Carroll is sh!t, he has stood by him for to long ! Only for Carroll to turn round and tell him to F%CK off.

We need to start believing we can win, we hammered Arsenal and got fu%ck all the whole team seems deflated
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