What did use think of kewell's comeback?

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Postby kazza » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:19 am

cisses_gona_get_ya wrote:This is one of the most stupidest topics Ive ever seen on here, how can anyone judge a player that only played 20 minutes of football and who is recovering from operations and has not played for 5 months.
:no  I give up.

Lynds I do not consider myself a pessamistic fan but rather believe myself to be an optamist. I am not judging him on 20 minutes of football, I am stating my opinion of the player I have seen for the last 2 years. Yesterday he showed me that nothing has changed.
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Postby Ola Mr Benitez » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:26 am

kazza wrote:Yesterday he showed me that nothing has changed.

So you are judging him on 20 minutes!
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Postby AlanHansen » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:40 am

Ola Mr Benitez wrote:Make him get his hair cut or sell him....

Yeah, I agree, that's a shocking haircut, what's going on there?  :Oo:

But he needs more time to get back into match fitness, I thought he did alright.
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Postby AwiLas » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:47 am

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Postby andy_g » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:48 am

this is absolutely fucking ridiculous. there is so much kewell bashing going on its disgusting and amazing in equal measure. does anyone who knows anything about the game in any tiny way really think that kewell was brought on for anything other than to get a bit of match fitness? we had the game won, benitez had the midfield set and strong so he takes off the fit striker and brings on kewell to work with garcia to keep a bit of pressure on up front.

kewell is not going to come back in a blaze of glory and be man of the match straight away. the guy has played very little competetive football for months and months, he's not sharp, he's not confident and he's not match fit. if he keeps getting half anf hour here, 20 minutes there for the next few games we'll see him improve every game.

if you really see yourselves as liverpool supporters get behind him. we can't help him with his fitness or sharpness, but we can sure as hell help him with his confidence. do we want a quality left winger for free or not? simple as that.
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Postby 115-1073096938 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:20 pm

andy_g wrote:this is absolutely fucking ridiculous. there is so much kewell bashing going on its disgusting and amazing in equal measure. does anyone who knows anything about the game in any tiny way really think that kewell was brought on for anything other than to get a bit of match fitness? we had the game won, benitez had the midfield set and strong so he takes off the fit striker and brings on kewell to work with garcia to keep a bit of pressure on up front.

kewell is not going to come back in a blaze of glory and be man of the match straight away. the guy has played very little competetive football for months and months, he's not sharp, he's not confident and he's not match fit. if he keeps getting half anf hour here, 20 minutes there for the next few games we'll see him improve every game.

if you really see yourselves as liverpool supporters get behind him. we can't help him with his fitness or sharpness, but we can sure as hell help him with his confidence. do we want a quality left winger for free or not? simple as that.

Whats being fit got to do with anything?

He played 20 minutes.

Prime example, Luis Garcia beats a man, shoots, the keeper pushes it out. Kewell stood there and watched the whole thing happen, why the :censored: didn't he follow up on Luis Garcia's shot? A blind man would have followed up on that or AT LEAST MADE AN EFFORT.

Then Kewell finds himself one on one with a defender, doesn't beat his man with the whole pitch to run onto and has his shot blocked.

Nothings changed, it never will, he deserves all the critisism he gets.

As for using sharpness and fitness as another EXCUSE, look at Alonso, half a reserve match then one of the best midfield performances your likely to see away to Juventus. Kewell struggled against Anderlecht mate.
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Postby andy_g » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:24 pm

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of course he struggled, he's hardly played for months. its not just a lack of fitness but sharpness as well. a footballers mind needs to be match fit as much as his legs do.

i don't think you can compare it to alonso's absence to be honest - alonso had played a lot more football around the time of his injury than kewell. kewell has been out for a long, long time and will need a long time to get back into it. he may never be back to his absolute best but he will always be a quality player when he's sorted.

and what do you mean 'what has fitness got to do with anything?'. you play the game - answer the question yourself.
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Postby Sean » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:25 pm

At leads O'Leary played Kewell up front on occasions and he did well.  In particular he demonstrated good heading ability.  I remember him scoring a good header against United.  I can't ever remember him having a good header on goal for us.

Apart from that the guy made his name as a left winger, beating full backs and whipping in crosses.  I'd like to see him get a chance for us on the left hand side to see if he can rediscover that form.  I never felt he was as effective on the right coz he always has to cut inside onto his left foot.
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Postby Judge » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:25 pm

andy_g wrote:kewell is not going to come back in a blaze of glory and be man of the match straight away. the guy has played very little competetive football for months and months, he's not sharp, he's not confident and he's not match fit. if he keeps getting half anf hour here, 20 minutes there for the next few games we'll see him improve every game.

Andy, no disrespect mate, but kewell has never set liverpool on fire since he's been with us. In fact, when he was fit, he was average at best. I feel that will never change, however, it doesnt stop me from shouting support from the terrace when he's on the ball, hoping he does something wonderful !!
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Postby 115-1073096938 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:28 pm

Andy, 20 minutes mate and i saw what i've been seeing from him for the last two years.

He won't change, if he does prove me wrong, great, he'll save us 15 million... i know he won't though.
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Postby jonnymac1979 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:31 pm

I didn't see the match last night, gutted really, so I can't comment.

I'm glad to see the lad back though.  I know he hasn't done that much for us in his time here, I just want to see if he can get himself fit before I make my mind up. 

I know he's on 65k a week and all that but I will not criticise Kewell until he's 100% fit, because it's easy from where we sit to moan about him.  I mean if you're fucked, you're fucked.  He's the one who's been under the knife.  He probably wasn't right in his last eighteen months at Leeds, if you listen to what their fans say about him. 

Once fit though, if he continues to be average, I will then voice my opinion.  Until then, I'm glad to see him back and I would like to see some desire and a positive attitude from him and a return to his best form.  I'm giving him the chance.  He was deadly about four years back, he might need some confidence building from our coaches.  If we can get that player back (fingers crossed) we will be laughing.
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Postby andy_g » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:37 pm

i accept all the points people make about kewell having been disappointing for a long time, seriously. but i'm not going to judge his come back on 20 minutes last night and not even on 20 minutes in the CL final. i don't understand exactly what has happened physically with kewell, exactly what injuries he has had - but i know there have been many, simultaneous and complex problems going on with his groin, his knees, his achilles and his back (correct me if i'm wrong on any of these, i'm going from memory here).

a lot of the time he has been trying to play despite these injuries and losing confidence when things he could previously do well just aren't coming off. he then sits out again for a while and makes another failed comeback because he's not quite fixed.

i believe he's been right to stay out of the game since last may and have the operation/s, and i believe its right to bring him back bit by bit. i find it impossible to believe that harry kewell does not want to play and will not become a quality player again - just doesn't make any kind of human sense to me. does no one remember when he first came? was he really not a brilliant player in many games? think about it. and Sean - i remember harry scoring a few headers for liverpool.

he's not sharp and he's not confident. his footballing brain is functioning at something like 50%. 

maybe i'm being over optimistic but i really do believe that in time kewell will have some great games for us, will score games and have his name sung on the kop. it may take a bit more time though and we need to be behind him and help him get there.
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Postby Judge » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:40 pm

Jmac, i live in leeds so all of my mates are leeds utd fans and go to matches regular. they say, they didnt like the manner in which he left leeds (kewell that is), but that was indicative of the times leeds were going thru, but they were glad to off load him onto another club, and indeed laughed when they knew he was going to LFC.

their words were and i quote ''he'll be injured lots, you'll pay him a wad, and he wont ever be good for the club, as he was cack at leeds''

if the leeds lads are saying that, then that didnt fill me with confidence at all.

Kewell will be a nearly boy, a small fish in a big pond. imo
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Postby 115-1073096938 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:41 pm

Thats my point, he's had two years mate. Three good months at the start doesn't warrent that kind of support. Especially the way he cried out of the cup final. He's a disgrace.

He got a medal, yet Steven Warnock didn't. I'm sorry, but that angers me. Kewell is a complete waster. And along with Traore and Cisse should be sold.
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Postby Judge » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:43 pm

i love cisse now :D
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