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[Stu the Red]

Stu - I know your not a massive fan of Sturridge but he played a fantastic ball through to Suarez which resulted in a penalty and a goal and he scored. The team scored two goals and he was heavily involved in both of them. Chelsea and Man City failed to get a lot out of him. That is not the case with ourselves. Are you just being a tad unreasonable which I fully appreciate would be completely out of character 

I don't mind Sturridge.

I've said it a million times lid , I don't think the lads a bad player, but I can't stand people over hyping our own players.

Sturridge for me isn't a better player than Crouch was for Liverpool. Crouch was another example of someone who was massively overhyped during his time here.

Both good players, but both a long way short of top bracket, but both made out to be far better players than they actually are by our own support.

[woof woof !]

I don't mind Sturridge.

I've said it a million times lid , I don't think the lads a bad player, but I can't stand people over hyping our own players.

Sturridge for me isn't a better player than Crouch was for Liverpool. Crouch was another example of someone who was massively overhyped during his time here.

Both good players, but both a long way short of top bracket, but both made out to be far better players than they actually are by our own support.

Crouch was Overhyped ? surely you're kidding.

Think it took him almost half a season (19 games) to get on the f'ucking scoresheet and most of us were already bitching about him.

He subsequently went on to be regarded as a decent forward for us, decent not great, and never imo "overhyped"

[Stu the Red]

I don't mind Sturridge.

I've said it a million times lid , I don't think the lads a bad player, but I can't stand people over hyping our own players.

Sturridge for me isn't a better player than Crouch was for Liverpool. Crouch was another example of someone who was massively overhyped during his time here.

Both good players, but both a long way short of top bracket, but both made out to be far better players than they actually are by our own support.

Crouch was Overhyped ? surely you're kidding.

Think it took him almost half a season (19 games) to get on the f'ucking scoresheet and most of us were already bitching about him.

He subsequently went on to be regarded as a decent forward for us, decent not great, and never imo "overhyped"

Woof he was heralded as some sort of wonder player on here. Everytime I dared to suggest we needed better to win the league I got told we didn't.

To be honest, I liked Crouchie the same as I like Sturridge. They both have the strengths. But neither are/were the answer.

Despite Crouch's goal drought at the start he offered the team something. He was playing well in games and setting goals up and linking well with other players.

To be quite honest, he has had exactly the opposite start to his Liverpool Career that Sturridge has.

[stmichael]

Nobody is saying he's the finished article. Sturridge can still improve a lot of aspects of his game. His decision making still leaves a lot to be desired a lot of the time.

He has to keep performing well for a couple of seasons though before anyone puts him anywhere near the very top bracket. If he continues his scoring rate I won't be complaining though. Simply phenomenal.

[maguskwt]

If only we could put Coutinho and sturridge in a mixer and out comes  a super striker... 

[stmichael]

Gotta love Chelsea fans though 

[Benny The Noon]

Can't remember Crouch being overhyped or classed as some wonder player. He was a decent player who did well for us and I think selling him wasn't the best move but Sturridge IMO appears to have a lot more to his game and more potential

[Stu the Red]

Nobody is saying he's the finished article. Sturridge can still improve a lot of aspects of his game. His decision making still leaves a lot to be desired a lot of the time.

He has to keep performing well for a couple of seasons though before anyone puts him anywhere near the very top bracket. If he continues his scoring rate I won't be complaining though. Simply phenomenal.

People have been banging on about him being the best in the league. The point is, anyone can have a good run of form, Sturridge is a good player so the run of form he's on is making him look better than he is.

The same thing happened with Enrique when he first signed, his first twenty games or so he looked unbelievabley good, people were saying he was the best in the country, europe and even some muppets were saying the best in the world.

Now, its a different attitude and people are wanting him binned off...

The exact opposite happened with Lucas, people were making him out to be terrible when he first came, which he never was, now people are saying he's again... "the best in the league" and "better than Gerrard"... when the truth is always in the middle. He was never as bad as made out, now he's never as good as some would have you believe.

[SouthCoastShankly]

Nobody is saying he's the finished article. Sturridge can still improve a lot of aspects of his game. His decision making still leaves a lot to be desired a lot of the time.

He has to keep performing well for a couple of seasons though before anyone puts him anywhere near the very top bracket. If he continues his scoring rate I won't be complaining though. Simply phenomenal.

People have been banging on about him being the best in the league. The point is, anyone can have a good run of form, Sturridge is a good player so the run of form he's on is making him look better than he is.

The same thing happened with Enrique when he first signed, his first twenty games or so he looked unbelievabley good, people were saying he was the best in the country, europe and even some muppets were saying the best in the world.

Now, its a different attitude and people are wanting him binned off...

The exact opposite happened with Lucas, people were making him out to be terrible when he first came, which he never was, now people are saying he's again... "the best in the league" and "better than Gerrard"... when the truth is always in the middle. He was never as bad as made out, now he's never as good as some would have you believe.

So the question is how long does his goalscoring form have to continue to force you to change your mind?

[parchpea]

The testimony to the success of Sturridge is in the fact we would double our money at a minimum if he was put on the market today
and that's on the cheap.

Unless we are willing to throw £30m + and top wages at somebody then it will be almost impossible to get a striker better than him.

Lets face it if he keeps scoring and has a good world cup he could worth anything we want.

[devaney]

As a lot of you know I was never a massive fan of Andy Carroll mainly because his job title is striker and on far too many occasions he simply didn't fulfil the key element of his job and that was to score goals. I know he did other stuff but that simply did not compensate for his inability to get the ball in the back of the net. I appreciate where Stu is coming from but it is very easy to find weaknesses in almost any professional sports person. Danny makes mistakes but 20 goals in 26 games more than compensates for those mistakes and that is the important factor imho. If he stops scoring goals and continues to make silly mistakes then it will be a vastly different story.

[Stu the Red]

Nobody is saying he's the finished article. Sturridge can still improve a lot of aspects of his game. His decision making still leaves a lot to be desired a lot of the time.

He has to keep performing well for a couple of seasons though before anyone puts him anywhere near the very top bracket. If he continues his scoring rate I won't be complaining though. Simply phenomenal.

People have been banging on about him being the best in the league. The point is, anyone can have a good run of form, Sturridge is a good player so the run of form he's on is making him look better than he is.

The same thing happened with Enrique when he first signed, his first twenty games or so he looked unbelievabley good, people were saying he was the best in the country, europe and even some muppets were saying the best in the world.

Now, its a different attitude and people are wanting him binned off...

The exact opposite happened with Lucas, people were making him out to be terrible when he first came, which he never was, now people are saying he's again... "the best in the league" and "better than Gerrard"... when the truth is always in the middle. He was never as bad as made out, now he's never as good as some would have you believe.

So the question is how long does his goalscoring form have to continue to force you to change your mind?

I don't judge players on form, never have, never will.

[Stu the Red]

As a lot of you know I was never a massive fan of Andy Carroll mainly because his job title is striker and on far too many occasions he simply didn't fulfil the key element of his job and that was to score goals. I know he did other stuff but that simply did not compensate for his inability to get the ball in the back of the net. I appreciate where Stu is coming from but it is very easy to find weaknesses in almost any professional sports person. Danny makes mistakes but 20 goals in 26 games more than compensates for those mistakes and that is the important factor imho. If he stops scoring goals and continues to make silly mistakes then it will be a vastly different story.

Carroll gave Liverpool nothing. The lad is a dog average premier league at best. It still hurts that we paid £35,000,000 for a donkey who couldn't even control a football. He had a worse touch than Kuyt.

On Sturridge...

He has 17 in 22 not 20 in 26 (don't know where that figure came from).

I'm simply saying the lad isn't very good all round as a footballer. To many people judge players purely on stats and choose to over look glaring weaknesses in the hope one day, someone will wave a magic wand or "give them enough time" to become world class.

Sturridge is a good player, nothing more. The hype he's receiving at times is bordering on ridiculous.

[Benny The Noon]

He has scored 3 cup goals in 4 games as well as 17 league goals in 22 games

[Stu the Red]

Checked the stats and they vary depending on where you read them and can't be arsed looking into it properly.

I thought he had 9 in 13 last season and 8 in 9 this season.

Do something useful and list his games and goals.

Point still stands though, you're still a t1t.