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[Stu the Red]

He also ran down a blind alley on 43 minutes when he had three options which resulted in a poor loss of possession which Gardner nearly ended up scoring from. (Do that against a better side and its in the back of the net). The loss of possession was shockingly bad play. This is something people fail to consider when calling him "the best in the league", which he is absolutely nowhere near. (He's nowhere near the best at his own club by the way).

The lad will do excellent things in a match, he'll cause teams problems, with his pace and movement... but he will also cause problems for us with a lack of work rate and tunnel vision which at times leads to failing to put other players through on goal when the chances arrive (three times in the first half he failed to pass to Suarez when Luis was better placed) and also when he loses possession needlessly.

On saying that, he played the balll of the season for Suarez first goal. Nailed to perfection.... and another positive was the standard of Luis movement for that goal... it was 10/10.

[damjan193]

Oh my! He did a mistake in the 43rd minute, worse player ever!

Seriously Stu, I don't know what you expect. He may not be "the best in the league" but at the moment he certainly is among the best.

[Stu the Red]

Oh my! He did a mistake in the 43rd minute, worse player ever!

Seriously Stu, I don't know what you expect. He may not be "the best in the league" but at the moment he certainly is among the best.

I never said he was the worst player ever, I never even said he's a bad player.

But he's absolutely nowhere near as good as the brain deads keep making out. The lads a good player, nothing more. To call him anything like the best in the league is pure fantasy.

[redno7]

He's a Liverpool player who is scoring goals on a regular basis for Liverpool, as a Liverpool fan I think he's the dogs do-da's.

And long may it continue.

[SouthCoastShankly]

Oh my! He did a mistake in the 43rd minute, worse player ever!

Seriously Stu, I don't know what you expect. He may not be "the best in the league" but at the moment he certainly is among the best.

I never said he was the worst player ever, I never even said he's a bad player.

But he's absolutely nowhere near as good as the brain deads keep making out. The lads a good player, nothing more. To call him anything like the best in the league is pure fantasy.

The player who scores the most in the league is considered the best in the league. Sturridge currently leads the league Top Scorers - by definition he is the best in the league at this present time.

I think Suarez will overtake him and show that he is a better striker, however until that happens Sturridge gets the plaudits.

[Stu the Red]

The player who scores the most in the league is considered the best in the league. Sturridge currently leads the league Top Scorers - by definition he is the best in the league at this present time.

Is that opinion or fact?

Whatever it is, its wrong!

[redno7]

according to the league table of goalscorers, who is the best striker in the league?

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

I thought Danny's movement was exceptional throughout ,even without the ball he was dragging defenders all over the shop creating space for Suarez.
All in all, a very mature performance from Mr Sturridge ,and his overall game is growing in stature with every minute he clocks up in the red of Liverpool.

[SouthCoastShankly]

The player who scores the most in the league is considered the best in the league. Sturridge currently leads the league Top Scorers - by definition he is the best in the league at this present time.

Is that opinion or fact?

Whatever it is, its wrong!

Well clearly its an opinion Stu.

The point is that the golden boot is almost universally accepted as the prize given to the best striker in the tournament. Few would argue that Van Persie was the best striker in the league last year. As a striker if you score more goals that your peers there is very little counter argument to say you are not the best in the league.

Whilst Sturridge tops the scoring tables he is worthy of the title best in the league.

[RedAnt]

Danny's first task is simple. Score goals. He's doing that. Now he's making them too. I don't see much point picking at his performance or abilities as long as he's doing that and we're winning. I like watching him play. Something about him makes me proud. I think he'll bond strongly with the crowd and be a leading player on the pitch over the next few seasons. His best years are ahead of him, and I'd suspect his bond with Rodgers, who's helped him find his home, will go a long way towards keeping him loyal. Good times ahead.

[Stu the Red]

Danny's first task is simple. Score goals. He's doing that. Now he's making them too. I don't see much point picking at his performance or abilities as long as he's doing that and we're winning. I like watching him play. Something about him makes me proud. I think he'll bond strongly with the crowd and be a leading player on the pitch over the next few seasons. His best years are ahead of him, and I'd suspect his bond with Rodgers, who's helped him find his home, will go a long way towards keeping him loyal. Good times ahead.

Thats exactly the point and exactly the reason Liverpool are in the situation they find themselves in over the last 4 years. They hide from weaknesses instead of addressing them, correcting them and improving them with better players. They management have shown content at average players instead of being ruthless and replacing them with better ones. Resting on our laurels is something this club has, until fairly recently, never done.

The fact is, Sturridge isn't a bad player, but everyones making him out to be Liverpool's saviour. The lad has alot of work to do on certain aspects of his game. Especially in the decision making department. Its not good scoring a goal, then stupidly gifting the ball to the opposition when a simple ball is on for them to go up the other end and equalise. Very fortunately for Sturridge he gave that ball away against Sunderland. Had he done that against a top half team or a top five team, that ball ends up in the back of the net. This is a regular thing in his game which has to stop and stop quickly. He does some excellent things at times, the assists for Luis yesterday were very good (the first one in particular)... but the needless giving the ball away in silly area's, not playing people who are better positioned in and running down blind alleys are something that will stop him truely becoming a top player. Its like an inferiority complex at times that he needs to score and be the hero instead of giving to someone else who's better placed... which in my opinion, is a terrible personality trait and one I have zero tollerance of.

The best time to improve your weaknesses is when doing well. Anyone who slags the team off after a poor performance and starts calling for heads is weak in my view. Improve something when its good, you'll then automatically improve the bad points. In football, you can't play at 100% every week, the class players are the players who play at 75% and still influence games...

[RedAnt]

A major plus though is his age. I'd agree more if he was older, but BR should be able to coach him from here. He looks comfy. It's a good basis to expand his game now, so lets hope he makes strides from here on.

[Greavesie]

Though Studge has been in brilliant goalscoring form, I do find myself leaning towards Stu's view. Sturridge does have a tendancy to try to be the hero and generally tries to shoot at almost any half opportunity. Its quite frustrating because nearly every replay you see they'll be another red shirt in space in a better position to shoot or build a better opportunity. Improving can always be done, and I'll be surprised if Rodgers doesn't address that with every player - Rafa was always one to look for the improvements and I hope Rodgers is the same (though with a little more pat on the back as well).

Admittedly against Sunderland he seemed a little more thoughful about the pass though there might be a few reasons for that. Moses and Suarez offer Sturridge a few options by pulling defenders around which gives him more (and perhaps better) options. Suarez himself could be another factor in that, the two goals being obvious examples of Sturridge finding the room to pass rather than going alone. Suarez and Sturridge certainly have an understanding and him knowing Suarez will find space for a pass will hopefully improve that aspect of his game. Might as well address it now while he's happy, confident and on form.

[Stu the Red]

Though Studge has been in brilliant goalscoring form, I do find myself leaning towards Stu's view. Sturridge does have a tendancy to try to be the hero and generally tries to shoot at almost any half opportunity. Its quite frustrating because nearly every replay you see they'll be another red shirt in space in a better position to shoot or build a better opportunity. Improving can always be done, and I'll be surprised if Rodgers doesn't address that with every player - Rafa was always one to look for the improvements and I hope Rodgers is the same (though with a little more pat on the back as well).

Admittedly against Sunderland he seemed a little more thoughful about the pass though there might be a few reasons for that. Moses and Suarez offer Sturridge a few options by pulling defenders around which gives him more (and perhaps better) options. Suarez himself could be another factor in that, the two goals being obvious examples of Sturridge finding the room to pass rather than going alone. Suarez and Sturridge certainly have an understanding and him knowing Suarez will find space for a pass will hopefully improve that aspect of his game. Might as well address it now while he's happy, confident and on form.

Today that lad contributed to most of our poor play with a lack of movement, fight and intelligence. He did score another goal which got him off the hook... but what worries me is him putting in performances of this standard when he doesn't score. You could also see he wasn't bothered once he'd scored... He "done his bit".

We're only 8 games into the season at the moment, so the shocking performance without a goal hasn't happened yet, but I have a feeling it will a few times.

Not good enough today and really needs a kick up the *****.

Starting to believe his own hype I think.

[Benny The Noon]

Played poorly but rescued a point.