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[devaney]

He's visualising getting his hands on something in May that's he waited too long for 

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

You can tell gerrard is only just starting to play well because the 'where are his critic's now?' type posts have been absent for most of the season.
in a way he's lucky that Rodgers is a manager who likes to play 3 in the middle because if we played 4-4-2 his Liverpool career would be over. That's how much he has regressed, especially his mobility.
The difference between his performances since the derby though compared to the performances he churned out most of the season is massive though, I'm just glad he decided to turn up to the party after all, better late than never I suppose.
With 12 of the biggest games in our modern history ahead of us we need gerrard to play well.

[devaney]

Yakka I've never been convinced by your somewhat over the top analysis of Gerrard's demise. Yes his form has been questionable but as usual he is expected to be Captain Fantastic and do the work of three players. Fortunately Rodgers knows at Stevie's age that is unrealistic and has allowed Gerrard to reinvent himself in a new role.I really don't know how many times I have to make the point that his presence on the pitch is critical wether he is playing well or not. To think that some of you guys were beginning to convince me that Lucas should be selected ahead of Stevie is a massive cause for concern. I could count on one hand the number of truly creative balls Lucas has played since joining Liverpool. To be frank he is not in the same fkg stratosphere.

Just don't choke on the humble pie Yakka and save a bit for RBG 

[maypaxvobiscum]

[Stu the Red]

Yakka I've never been convinced by your somewhat over the top analysis of Gerrard's demise. Yes his form has been questionable but as usual he is expected to be Captain Fantastic and do the work of three players. Fortunately Rodgers knows at Stevie's age that is unrealistic and has allowed Gerrard to reinvent himself in a new role.I really don't know how many times I have to make the point that his presence on the pitch is critical wether he is playing well or not. To think that some of you guys were beginning to convince me that Lucas should be selected ahead of Stevie is a massive cause for concern. I could count on one hand the number of truly creative balls Lucas has played since joining Liverpool. To be frank he is not in the same fkg stratosphere.

Just don't choke on the humble pie Yakka and save a bit for RBG 

The fact you managed to use the word's "Lucas" and "creative" in the same paragraph without sounding like a complete muppet deserves a massive amount of respect.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Yakka I've never been convinced by your somewhat over the top analysis of Gerrard's demise. Yes his form has been questionable but as usual he is expected to be Captain Fantastic and do the work of three players. Fortunately Rodgers knows at Stevie's age that is unrealistic and has allowed Gerrard to reinvent himself in a new role.I really don't know how many times I have to make the point that his presence on the pitch is critical wether he is playing well or not. To think that some of you guys were beginning to convince me that Lucas should be selected ahead of Stevie is a massive cause for concern. I could count on one hand the number of truly creative balls Lucas has played since joining Liverpool. To be frank he is not in the same fkg stratosphere.

Just don't choke on the humble pie Yakka and save a bit for RBG 

But no one ever said that Lucas was a better player than gerrard, all anyone said was that he was more mobile than gerrard and that mobility is what our midfield needed. I've probably watched Gerrard live more than 90% of the people who post on here and I have said repeatedly he is the best player I have ever seen play for this club and when you consider that the first time I went to anfield was in 1975 that's about as high praise as you get.
But before the revisionism really kicks into overdrive the reason behind our great season has been our superb forward line which has by and large carried a very average defence and midfield.
Again last night we had to score 3 goals to win away, against stoke we had to score at least 4 (we ended up scoring 5), if lavish praise is going to be thrown about it should be heaped on our strikers who have been performing since August.

[Stu the Red]

Yakka I've never been convinced by your somewhat over the top analysis of Gerrard's demise. Yes his form has been questionable but as usual he is expected to be Captain Fantastic and do the work of three players. Fortunately Rodgers knows at Stevie's age that is unrealistic and has allowed Gerrard to reinvent himself in a new role.I really don't know how many times I have to make the point that his presence on the pitch is critical wether he is playing well or not. To think that some of you guys were beginning to convince me that Lucas should be selected ahead of Stevie is a massive cause for concern. I could count on one hand the number of truly creative balls Lucas has played since joining Liverpool. To be frank he is not in the same fkg stratosphere.

Just don't choke on the humble pie Yakka and save a bit for RBG 

But no one ever said that Lucas was a better player than gerrard, all anyone said was that he was more mobile than gerrard and that mobility is what our midfield needed. I've probably watched Gerrard live more than 90% of the people who post on here and I have said repeatedly he is the best player I have ever seen play for this club and when you consider that the first time I went to anfield was in 1975 that's about as high praise as you get.
But before the revisionism really kicks into overdrive the reason behind our great season has been our superb forward line which has by and large carried a very average defence and midfield.
Again last night we had to score 3 goals to win away, against stoke we had to score at least 4 (we ended up scoring 5), if lavish praise is going to be thrown about it should be heaped on our strikers who have been performing since August.

No-one on here disputes that the forward are the reason we are were we are. Infact, if you look back at pretty much every post I've made it points out that they're the exact reason we find ourselves in this position.

I don't think anyone in here doubts that the the midfield and defence (with the exception of some) are average either. Gerrard is past his best, Henderson, while improving is still not performing week in week out and Allen has been hit and miss.

The point I think that me and Devaney are both making is that Gerrard, whether you like it or not is still the best we have in that position and I think the fact Lucas isn't currently in the team is benefiting us hugely. For me, its no coincidence we look a better side when Lucas and Johnson don't play. Its just plain and utter common sense.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

I'm not particularly a huge fan of Lucas, I don't think he has been the same since his injury and I think he lacks athleticism  but it's more revisionism to suggest that we have looked better when he has been out of the side, some of our most impressive performances have been when he was in that DM role and it was Gerrard out out the side (Spurs away, City away).
I don't think there's a simple 'one size fits all' answer to our midfield problems, some weeks certain players play well and other weeks it's other names that play well, some weeks we are all over teams like a rash and other weeks teams over run us, one week a certain combination of players look great the next week it looks terrible, the one constant through all that erratic form though is that our forwards have performed week in week out, what ever the combination.
Wether Luis has been out or Danny has been out our front line has really stepped up to the plate in a massive way this season. They have been the Hero's this year.

[Stu the Red]

I'm not particularly a huge fan of Lucas, I don't think he has been the same since his injury and I think he lacks athleticism  but it's more revisionism to suggest that we have looked better when he has been out of the side, some of our most impressive performances have been when he was in that DM role and it was Gerrard out out the side (Spurs away, City away).
I don't think there's a simple 'one size fits all' answer to our midfield problems, some weeks certain players play well and other weeks it's other names that play well, some weeks we are all over teams like a rash and other weeks teams over run us, one week a certain combination of players look great the next week it looks terrible, the one constant through all that erratic form though is that our forwards have performed week in week out, what ever the combination.
Wether Luis has been out or Danny has been out our front line has really stepped up to the plate in a massive way this season. They have been the Hero's this year.

Fair enough.

I do tend to agree, its obvious player of the season is Luis Suarez but its also good that we can sit here and give shout outs to Flannagan, Sturridge and in parts Coutinho.

Also, a major shout out to Raheem Sterling who's really starting to prove his doubters wrong and is looking a threat and working his balls off in every game we play.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

I'm not particularly a huge fan of Lucas, I don't think he has been the same since his injury and I think he lacks athleticism  but it's more revisionism to suggest that we have looked better when he has been out of the side, some of our most impressive performances have been when he was in that DM role and it was Gerrard out out the side (Spurs away, City away).
I don't think there's a simple 'one size fits all' answer to our midfield problems, some weeks certain players play well and other weeks it's other names that play well, some weeks we are all over teams like a rash and other weeks teams over run us, one week a certain combination of players look great the next week it looks terrible, the one constant through all that erratic form though is that our forwards have performed week in week out, what ever the combination.
Wether Luis has been out or Danny has been out our front line has really stepped up to the plate in a massive way this season. They have been the Hero's this year.

Fair enough.

I do tend to agree, its obvious player of the season is Luis Suarez but its also good that we can sit here and give shout outs to Flannagan, Sturridge and in parts Coutinho.

Also, a major shout out to Raheem Sterling who's really starting to prove his doubters wrong and is looking a threat and working his balls off in every game we play.

Yeah, sterling has been superb, one of the best attackers in the team and one of the best pressers.

[Stu the Red]

I had him down as a league one player earlier in the season... and to be honest, I stand by what I said at the time, he would have struggled to get into a league one side on that form. Massive turn around and quite frankly, I'm made up about it. He's having a superb season.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Last night we re-visited Steven Gerrard 2005/2006 ,and its a welcome return to the kind of performance that positively bristled with the kind of passion
I all but thought had been eviscerated by time. I think hand on heart in terms of attitude and really 'wanting it' that's the best he's played for arguably
two seasons. Although like Yakka stated us reds supporters have certainly had to bide their respective time waiting for the Captains return......what can
I say some of us fell short,I might start having to watch it on a stream instead .....JOKING !!!! 

[ConnO'var]

I was already extremely worried about the game last night. Thank god Stevie was around as he was the main reason we clawed back into contention and steadied the ship in the 2nd half. An all round superb performance and close to being the MOM for me.

Come on Stevie.... this could very well be the last shot you have at bringing home the Premiership. It's a long way to go but how fitting it would be if the best player to ever don the red of liverpool be the one who finally leads us back to the promised land after being exiled for so long. We may be the foals in the race but i believe that we will make the top four... and with a whispered prayer in my heart, i am finally daring to hope for the impossible.

[damjan193]

Stevie has always been about having the right attitude. With his comments about Arsenal being our most important game of the season (not Everton or Tottenham) and the fact that he's risking injuring himself again (with the World Cup just a few months away), his motives for me are clear; he thinks that we can win the title. With that sort of a motivation and attitude, it's no wonder he's performing so well, and when Gerrard is motivated, there aren't a lot of things that can stop him. Long may it continue!

[red till i die!!]

another great show from the man today and he's beginning to look comfortable in that role. he is a real driving force in that side 
i know webb's getting stick for the pen but he could have easily gave gerrard his marching orders for that foul on chamberlain, had it of being anyone else but stevie they would have been in the book and off