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[parchpea]

He wont quit and though I feel his time his up and it wont work out now hes right to say that the support has never got behind him. We may not care for his honesty but surely no one could argue that point. For him personally its probably come as quite a shock because historically our fans have rallied behind every manager and he could be forgiven for expecting the same. He is probaby the only manager in my living memory that the fans have battered from day one and it was as if he was at the end of a tenure rather than the beginning. Im not excusing his comments, or his shambolic efforts to breathe life into this team, but its fair to say that the negativity hasnt helped and this is partly where hes coming from.

[Bermenstein]

I predict Roy will be released of his services after our 3-0 upcoming defeat at Old Trafford in the FA cup 3rd Round.

If he fu.cked off now, King Kenny could get us off to a flier in the FA Cup.

Dare to Dream....

[Emerald Red]

I predict Roy will be released of his services after our 3-0 upcoming defeat at Old Trafford in the FA cup 3rd Round.

If he fu.cked off now, King Kenny could get us off to a flier in the FA Cup.

Dare to Dream....

If he f*cked off now, and Kenny was brought in, I could actually get excited for that game. *sigh*

[jacdaniel]

He wont quit and though I feel his time his up and it wont work out now hes right to say that the support has never got behind him. We may not care for his honesty but surely no one could argue that point. For him personally its probably come as quite a shock because historically our fans have rallied behind every manager and he could be forgiven for expecting the same. He is probaby the only manager in my living memory that the fans have battered from day one and it was as if he was at the end of a tenure rather than the beginning. Im not excusing his comments, or his shambolic efforts to breathe life into this team, but its fair to say that the negativity hasnt helped and this is partly where hes coming from.

There is a lot of reasons for that though.  The fans fought hard for 3 years to get rid of T+G.  We didn't want to be left with a bad manager but thats what we were left it.  Now that we're near relegation we are becoming desperate just to get a small bit of pride back.  That would be like winning a trophy this season.

Also, a large percentage of fans didn't want the previous manager sacked and were still very upset about that. 

Roy was always gonna be the last victim of a terrible era in our history.  The sooner he is gone, the sooner we can start to look towards a better future.

[worcester_red]

Agree Tommos perm, but it is the manager who is responsible for the mentality motivation tactics etc.

OK
But is it too much to ask for a bit of passion or pride? A sense that they want to show the fans that even if the manager is a w@ker at least they will try their best for the fans?
I am probably asking too much but I dont think its alot to ask for from highly paid professionals.
I watched it again and Im so disappointed that our best players are the biggest culprits

Let me ask you a question, have you ever had a boss you absolutely hated and/or been forced to do a job/task which you didn't like. How motivated were you? Why should footballers, who in most cases are far more stupid than you, be any different?

Bit of a silly analogy to be honest
If I was on £100,000 a week and lived an unbelievable lifestyle then I might feel a pang of loyalty to those idiots who pay for my fantastic way of life
I know they are stupid but dont excuse it by encouraging childish behaviour

I agree they should still be doing their jobs, but these are rich spoilt brats we are talking about who have very little loyalty in the first place. They need a manager who can inspire them and also give them a kick up the if needed, Roy can do neither.
the amount of money really has very little do to with it, in my career the amount of salary has little effect on my motivation levels although it does make suffering an idiotic boss easier. 

[worcester_red]

He wont quit and though I feel his time his up and it wont work out now hes right to say that the support has never got behind him. We may not care for his honesty but surely no one could argue that point. For him personally its probably come as quite a shock because historically our fans have rallied behind every manager and he could be forgiven for expecting the same. He is probaby the only manager in my living memory that the fans have battered from day one and it was as if he was at the end of a tenure rather than the beginning. Im not excusing his comments, or his shambolic efforts to breathe life into this team, but its fair to say that the negativity hasnt helped and this is partly where hes coming from.

Sorry but absolute b0llocks, if the fans are negative then it's up to the manager and team to proove us wrong instead of prooving us right.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Liverpool supporters have added thousands of signatures to an online petition directed at owners Fenway Sports Group - led by John Henry and Tom Werner - calling for Hodgson to be removed immediately.
The accompanying letter, which runs to almost 3,000 words, lists the reasons why they want the former Fulham boss to be booted out.
The letter is divided into sections highlighting Hodgson's perceived weaknesses, headlined 'Inexperience at the top level', 'Relationship with the fans/Communication with the media', 'Signings' and 'Statistics' before concluding with a final 'Please Act Now' plea.
it starts: 'The undersigned plead with you to relieve our great club’s current manager, Mr Hodgson, of his duties immediately.
'Upon purchase of the club, a key promise you made was to engage with and listen to the fans – we very much hope this was with a view to acting on issues we feel tremendously strongly about.
'Indeed all have been impressed with your approach to managing the club and handling of the media to date, however now is the time to take swift and decisive action in respect of a matter vital to our progression.
'This is not simply an unconsidered reaction following the loss to Wolves yesterday evening, though this was clearly an unacceptable result, but a culmination of events over the past six months.
'Liverpool fans are widely regarded as knowledgeable and, crucially, extremely patient, and so the fact recent polls show that in excess of 95% wish to see Mr Hodgson removed from his position is evidence enough that it is time to fulfil your promise. Can a majority this overwhelming be ignored and, more importantly, all incorrect in their views?

Sign the petition people ..... and may I take this opportunity to wish you all a Happy New Year



petition

[Thommo's perm]

He wont quit and though I feel his time his up and it wont work out now hes right to say that the support has never got behind him. We may not care for his honesty but surely no one could argue that point. For him personally its probably come as quite a shock because historically our fans have rallied behind every manager and he could be forgiven for expecting the same. He is probaby the only manager in my living memory that the fans have battered from day one and it was as if he was at the end of a tenure rather than the beginning. Im not excusing his comments, or his shambolic efforts to breathe life into this team, but its fair to say that the negativity hasnt helped and this is partly where hes coming from.

There is a lot of reasons for that though.  The fans fought hard for 3 years to get rid of T+G.  We didn't want to be left with a bad manager but thats what we were left it.  Now that we're near relegation we are becoming desperate just to get a small bit of pride back.  That would be like winning a trophy this season.

Also, a large percentage of fans didn't want the previous manager sacked and were still very upset about that. 

Roy was always gonna be the last victim of a terrible era in our history.  The sooner he is gone, the sooner we can start to look towards a better future.

Good post
Roy walked into a minefield as soon as he signed on the dotted line. Many, on and off here, said he wasnt good enough from the begining. He asked for time and to be fair has had some, but not enough to right the wrongs of the previous regime. Its interesting now in hindsight to see the influence Benitez had even after hed gone. His "bottle of milk" and "mountain of sugar" rants did little good to help the cause of his successor.
Hodgson has been like a boxer who has had a jaw breaking knockdown after the first bell. Theres no way he could recover and his statements, signings and demeanour have all led to his downfall. From the moment he picked up the poison chalice he has been undermined and mocked. Even those that didnt, showed no real support and were waiting for the chance to stick the boot in
He has caused hysteria (again) by daring to criticise fans. It seems that we are above criticism even if its true, and like those sensitive souls from SOS, we are a group of people who dont like honesty.
Football is full of hypocrisy and I for one welcome an honest opinion. Roy is hurting because he, naively, believed that the best fans in the world would have seen he had a mountain to climb and no magic wand to sort things immediately. He is correct in his statement but incorrect in stating it publicly. Thats football.
He is on ssn now saying he will not strengthen in January.
Bon voyage Roy

[Waldo]

There has to be a certain amount of blame put on the players for the performance against Wolves but with so many players asked to do unfamiliar/non preferred roles in the side (Kuyt, Raul etc) the manager has to take a large proportion of the blame. Why on earth does he leave Maxi Rodrigues on the bench when he has been one of our best players this season? Instead he plays Kuyt on the left and Meireles on the right - neither of them are natural wide midfielders....

[Thommo's perm]

Liverpool supporters have added thousands of signatures to an online petition directed at owners Fenway Sports Group - led by John Henry and Tom Werner - calling for Hodgson to be removed immediately.
The accompanying letter, which runs to almost 3,000 words, lists the reasons why they want the former Fulham boss to be booted out.
The letter is divided into sections highlighting Hodgson's perceived weaknesses, headlined 'Inexperience at the top level', 'Relationship with the fans/Communication with the media', 'Signings' and 'Statistics' before concluding with a final 'Please Act Now' plea.
it starts: 'The undersigned plead with you to relieve our great club’s current manager, Mr Hodgson, of his duties immediately.
'Upon purchase of the club, a key promise you made was to engage with and listen to the fans – we very much hope this was with a view to acting on issues we feel tremendously strongly about.
'Indeed all have been impressed with your approach to managing the club and handling of the media to date, however now is the time to take swift and decisive action in respect of a matter vital to our progression.
'This is not simply an unconsidered reaction following the loss to Wolves yesterday evening, though this was clearly an unacceptable result, but a culmination of events over the past six months.
'Liverpool fans are widely regarded as knowledgeable and, crucially, extremely patient, and so the fact recent polls show that in excess of 95% wish to see Mr Hodgson removed from his position is evidence enough that it is time to fulfil your promise. Can a majority this overwhelming be ignored and, more importantly, all incorrect in their views?

Sign the petition people ..... and may I take this opportunity to wish you all a Happy New Year



petition

Interesting and well thought out letter. It goes to prove what Ive said all along
1. He was doomed before he started due to the "being out of his depth" theory
2. He was badly advised or not advised at all in the culture of LFC fans
3. Every single utterance would be used against him by those with a pro-Rafa/anti-Roy agenda
4. The players take little or no responsibility due to them being sh'ithouses
5. His signings have been questionable to say the least but I still dont know if Poulsen can cut it and Miereles is a good player
6. Statistics can be used to prove anything and although I agree the table doesnt lie, the reason we are were we are cannot just be down to Hodgson. There are a whole host of reasons and extenuating circumstances, some out of his control, which have led to the situation were in.
The fact that he is not being given any money speaks volumes for the future.
By the way, was such a detailed dossier compiled for Benitez? If so, it is no wonder he is no longer with us

[roberto green]

Liverpool supporters have added thousands of signatures to an online petition directed at owners Fenway Sports Group - led by John Henry and Tom Werner - calling for Hodgson to be removed immediately.
The accompanying letter, which runs to almost 3,000 words, lists the reasons why they want the former Fulham boss to be booted out.
The letter is divided into sections highlighting Hodgson's perceived weaknesses, headlined 'Inexperience at the top level', 'Relationship with the fans/Communication with the media', 'Signings' and 'Statistics' before concluding with a final 'Please Act Now' plea.
it starts: 'The undersigned plead with you to relieve our great club’s current manager, Mr Hodgson, of his duties immediately.
'Upon purchase of the club, a key promise you made was to engage with and listen to the fans – we very much hope this was with a view to acting on issues we feel tremendously strongly about.
'Indeed all have been impressed with your approach to managing the club and handling of the media to date, however now is the time to take swift and decisive action in respect of a matter vital to our progression.
'This is not simply an unconsidered reaction following the loss to Wolves yesterday evening, though this was clearly an unacceptable result, but a culmination of events over the past six months.
'Liverpool fans are widely regarded as knowledgeable and, crucially, extremely patient, and so the fact recent polls show that in excess of 95% wish to see Mr Hodgson removed from his position is evidence enough that it is time to fulfil your promise. Can a majority this overwhelming be ignored and, more importantly, all incorrect in their views?

Sign the petition people ..... and may I take this opportunity to wish you all a Happy New Year



petition

I've just become 9113 signature,

It's not nice but when you can see how much our club is suffering at the moment I'm afraid this action is required.

[Thommo's perm]

Liverpool supporters have added thousands of signatures to an online petition directed at owners Fenway Sports Group - led by John Henry and Tom Werner - calling for Hodgson to be removed immediately.
The accompanying letter, which runs to almost 3,000 words, lists the reasons why they want the former Fulham boss to be booted out.
The letter is divided into sections highlighting Hodgson's perceived weaknesses, headlined 'Inexperience at the top level', 'Relationship with the fans/Communication with the media', 'Signings' and 'Statistics' before concluding with a final 'Please Act Now' plea.
it starts: 'The undersigned plead with you to relieve our great club’s current manager, Mr Hodgson, of his duties immediately.
'Upon purchase of the club, a key promise you made was to engage with and listen to the fans – we very much hope this was with a view to acting on issues we feel tremendously strongly about.
'Indeed all have been impressed with your approach to managing the club and handling of the media to date, however now is the time to take swift and decisive action in respect of a matter vital to our progression.
'This is not simply an unconsidered reaction following the loss to Wolves yesterday evening, though this was clearly an unacceptable result, but a culmination of events over the past six months.
'Liverpool fans are widely regarded as knowledgeable and, crucially, extremely patient, and so the fact recent polls show that in excess of 95% wish to see Mr Hodgson removed from his position is evidence enough that it is time to fulfil your promise. Can a majority this overwhelming be ignored and, more importantly, all incorrect in their views?

Sign the petition people ..... and may I take this opportunity to wish you all a Happy New Year



petition

I've just become 9113 signature,

It's not nice but when you can see how much our club is suffering at the moment I'm afraid this action is required.

With or without the petition he is literally 90 minutes away from the sack

[redhayesy]

NESV should read the history books and what they're owning right now is Liverpool FC, one of the giants of football. The results are unacceptable... take action NOW!

great post mate,i totally agree with you- (silence may be golden) in certain cases,but for me the silence from the owners is concerning!

they need to act NOW. not in a few weeks time-i want somthing said in what their plans are for taking the club foward,after all as we all kmow,actions speak louder than words-but at least if they make a verbal statement of their intent,it would at least put my mind at rest atm. for that to happen i sincerly hope they have meant what they have said & will listen the voice of the fc ie-the supporters!

to leave this situation to drag on any longer will only give the impression to roy that he is the man capable of bringing future success to our club,rather than know through our history that the likes of souness & now roy will only drag us down.

the silence of the crowd on wednesday night was like a living nightmare for me & reminded me of the dark days when souness was manager,i for one never,ever thought i would re-live that nightmare-how wrong i was!

roys comments since wed night have been so damaging to all concerned with the club,that he is so thick or just plain ignorant to the fact he is way out of his depth -it makes my blood boil!

i do agree we,as supporters should be educated enough to think & know we don't have the define right to win everything in sight-but his comments about that the results ie-wolves shouldn't be un-acceptable,as it's disrespectful to other teams in the prem league etc, feck off-that's were he shows his lack of alround so called managerial experience,cause i'm sure like thousands of other suporters- it fecking well is totally un-acceptable with results like that,let alone the performance.

yes the players let themselves down etc,iv'e shown my anger in that dept on the rating i gave them! but my opinion is this-at the end of the day the buck stops & always should stop with the manager! they take the credit when it goes well,then take the flack when at home especially the whole set up was an insult to all,let alone the people who pay their hard earned money to go & watch displays what have been totally un-acceptable & that is what has caused the so called negativity roy end of.

no more hiding place for the owners on this one for me. they have talked the talk so far,which has been great but lets see if they walk the walk,take action now as this will determin your ambition for the club for  it's present & future.

[taff]

I am torn between genuinely feeling sorry for him as he did come across as a nice bloke but also anger and disillusion at the way he has conducted himself.

[redhayesy]

I am torn between genuinely feeling sorry for him as he did come across as a nice bloke but also anger and disillusion at the way he has conducted himself.

thing is mate,you know as well as me so called nice blokes don't win races! his lack of knowledge & ambition for our fc is totally un-acceptable. thats why if he has any shred of being a so called nice bloke -he will jump before he is pushed!

for me i live,breath & love our history,it's what makes supporting LFC the privalidge it is- but for me in this case i want to see a break in our traditional history & see him sacked TODAY. not in a few weeks time etc,if he doesn't resign-then as long as he is gone through whatever proceedure is necessary-just as long as it happens TODAY!