Liverpool FC Forum

[Bad Bob]

I was also saying that when rotation numbers were comparable, it is important to know who is being rotated, we may rotate Torres, but do/would the others rotate Van Persie, Drogba, Ronaldo or some other no-mark instead. IE do we rotate our marquee players and they their run of the mill players.

It's hard to gauge because a lot of their rotations seem to have been down to injuries (since I don't follow any of those teams I'm not up on team news so it's sometimes hard to tell).  For instance, Kuszcazk has been playing in net for the Mancs because VDS is injured and that's also how Almunia got into the side at the expense of Lehmann.

But, there are instances when the rotations are for tactical reasons.  Van Persie, for instance, was rested against Derby and I think Gilberto was selected ahead of Senderos at CB a couple of times right after Gallas was injured.  With the Mancs, Nani has  been used to rest Giggs (he's also often the one to come in to replace injured/suspended midfielders) and Saha has come in to give Tevez a breather.  At Chelsea, Kalou, Shevchenko and Pizarro have all been given spells of action when Drogba was injured, Belletti and Ferreira seem to be splitting the RB duties, Joe Cole and SWP are sharing the starts at RM and any combination of Makelele, Essien, Mikel and, strangely, Sidwell have been used in the absence of Lampard.

No need for Big Mick....

But, he's the ying to our yang (or something like that!)...

Also with the Arsenal sqaud, i would agree it does not look like league winners, but in their case, it never does until they win it. Those players are perfect for their system and may not look so great when in another team...see Ashley Tweedy. IMO (i agree with Leon), they will falter, i don't think they will sustain the challenge, and think that in the new year the top two will be us and the mancs.

Agreed on both counts: Arsenal always look a weak side on paper but they can punch well above their weight on the pitch, when things are clicking for them.  But, I do think they will hit a rough patch.  All it would take is one too many injuries.  Gallas and Rosicky have both been injured so far--one or two more concurrent ones and they look a pretty threadbare unit.  We shall see what happens...

[Sabre]

I'll never understand how Almunia made it to the starting eleven of Arsenal The same ALmunia of Celta and Albacete FFS!

[heimdall]

BIG ERROR IN THAT REPORT

we aint 4 points off first place

we are 6

and after 8 games that is bad

Arsenals run will not continue mate.

You cannot make such speculations. Its not like they havent done it before.

And its been done in more recent times by the likes of Chelsea and Utd.

Its not that I dont have faith in the team but confidence just seems to be lacking. Whether that is down to just a run of the mill bad patch or other internal factors such as Paco leaving who knows but we are in a frail state right now and need to bounce back sharpish.

Deep down I dont think anyone wants to see Rafa go. The preassure was always going to be that little but harder this year given that Rafa had more financial muscle. With the exception of Torres and Mascherano I still dont know if the recent signings he made are worthy of a championship winning team and further more I think we still need to buy 1 or 2 more. Namley a CB and a new striker as I think Peter Crouch has come to the end of his Liverpool chapter.

They will not continue that run much longer mate, they are no where near the side of the invincibles.

mate they went a full season unbeaten, i know that history now but it shows it can be done, what if the keep scraping wins during their slump. if they beat us mate they will have 9 points on us and we are still in october

Thats a lot of ifs.

If we beat them and if they lose two games this month and if United lose two games and if Chaels dont win two games THEN we will be top.

I cannot believe that some one who blindly feels that Arsenals run will end is accusing other people of usings to many ifs, bloody funny though Leon        oh maybe it wasn't meant to be 

[Leonmc0708]

BIG ERROR IN THAT REPORT

we aint 4 points off first place

we are 6

and after 8 games that is bad

Arsenals run will not continue mate.

You cannot make such speculations. Its not like they havent done it before.

And its been done in more recent times by the likes of Chelsea and Utd.

Its not that I dont have faith in the team but confidence just seems to be lacking. Whether that is down to just a run of the mill bad patch or other internal factors such as Paco leaving who knows but we are in a frail state right now and need to bounce back sharpish.

Deep down I dont think anyone wants to see Rafa go. The preassure was always going to be that little but harder this year given that Rafa had more financial muscle. With the exception of Torres and Mascherano I still dont know if the recent signings he made are worthy of a championship winning team and further more I think we still need to buy 1 or 2 more. Namley a CB and a new striker as I think Peter Crouch has come to the end of his Liverpool chapter.

They will not continue that run much longer mate, they are no where near the side of the invincibles.

mate they went a full season unbeaten, i know that history now but it shows it can be done, what if the keep scraping wins during their slump. if they beat us mate they will have 9 points on us and we are still in october

Thats a lot of ifs.

If we beat them and if they lose two games this month and if United lose two games and if Chaels dont win two games THEN we will be top.

I cannot believe that some one who blindly feels that Arsenals run will end is accusing other people of usings to many ifs, bloody funny though Leon        oh maybe it wasn't meant to be 

charity bet:

£100 from me, to the HJC if Arsenal continue their run (2.75 points per game) over the next three games (Bolton, Liverpool, United) in the league.

Anyone of the doubters fancy it ?

[heimdall]

BIG ERROR IN THAT REPORT

we aint 4 points off first place

we are 6

and after 8 games that is bad

Arsenals run will not continue mate.

You cannot make such speculations. Its not like they havent done it before.

And its been done in more recent times by the likes of Chelsea and Utd.

Its not that I dont have faith in the team but confidence just seems to be lacking. Whether that is down to just a run of the mill bad patch or other internal factors such as Paco leaving who knows but we are in a frail state right now and need to bounce back sharpish.

Deep down I dont think anyone wants to see Rafa go. The preassure was always going to be that little but harder this year given that Rafa had more financial muscle. With the exception of Torres and Mascherano I still dont know if the recent signings he made are worthy of a championship winning team and further more I think we still need to buy 1 or 2 more. Namley a CB and a new striker as I think Peter Crouch has come to the end of his Liverpool chapter.

They will not continue that run much longer mate, they are no where near the side of the invincibles.

mate they went a full season unbeaten, i know that history now but it shows it can be done, what if the keep scraping wins during their slump. if they beat us mate they will have 9 points on us and we are still in october

Thats a lot of ifs.

If we beat them and if they lose two games this month and if United lose two games and if Chaels dont win two games THEN we will be top.

I cannot believe that some one who blindly feels that Arsenals run will end is accusing other people of usings to many ifs, bloody funny though Leon        oh maybe it wasn't meant to be 

charity bet:

£100 from me, to the HJC if Arsenal continue their run (2.75 points per game) over the next three games (Bolton, Liverpool, United) in the league.

Anyone of the doubters fancy it ?

What odds are you giving?

[Emerald Red]

BIG ERROR IN THAT REPORT

we aint 4 points off first place

we are 6

and after 8 games that is bad

Arsenals run will not continue mate.

You cannot make such speculations. Its not like they havent done it before.

And its been done in more recent times by the likes of Chelsea and Utd.

Its not that I dont have faith in the team but confidence just seems to be lacking. Whether that is down to just a run of the mill bad patch or other internal factors such as Paco leaving who knows but we are in a frail state right now and need to bounce back sharpish.

Deep down I dont think anyone wants to see Rafa go. The preassure was always going to be that little but harder this year given that Rafa had more financial muscle. With the exception of Torres and Mascherano I still dont know if the recent signings he made are worthy of a championship winning team and further more I think we still need to buy 1 or 2 more. Namley a CB and a new striker as I think Peter Crouch has come to the end of his Liverpool chapter.

They will not continue that run much longer mate, they are no where near the side of the invincibles.

Yes. And we will be the ones that sees to that. I hope.

[The Manhattan Project]

According to the BBC, Crouch may join Man City in January for 8M.

[zarababe]

and we could have got £15m for him in sept

[Leonmc0708]

BIG ERROR IN THAT REPORT

we aint 4 points off first place

we are 6

and after 8 games that is bad

Arsenals run will not continue mate.

You cannot make such speculations. Its not like they havent done it before.

And its been done in more recent times by the likes of Chelsea and Utd.

Its not that I dont have faith in the team but confidence just seems to be lacking. Whether that is down to just a run of the mill bad patch or other internal factors such as Paco leaving who knows but we are in a frail state right now and need to bounce back sharpish.

Deep down I dont think anyone wants to see Rafa go. The preassure was always going to be that little but harder this year given that Rafa had more financial muscle. With the exception of Torres and Mascherano I still dont know if the recent signings he made are worthy of a championship winning team and further more I think we still need to buy 1 or 2 more. Namley a CB and a new striker as I think Peter Crouch has come to the end of his Liverpool chapter.

They will not continue that run much longer mate, they are no where near the side of the invincibles.

mate they went a full season unbeaten, i know that history now but it shows it can be done, what if the keep scraping wins during their slump. if they beat us mate they will have 9 points on us and we are still in october

Thats a lot of ifs.

If we beat them and if they lose two games this month and if United lose two games and if Chaels dont win two games THEN we will be top.

I cannot believe that some one who blindly feels that Arsenals run will end is accusing other people of usings to many ifs, bloody funny though Leon        oh maybe it wasn't meant to be 

charity bet:

£100 from me, to the HJC if Arsenal continue their run (2.75 points per game) over the next three games (Bolton, Liverpool, United) in the league.

Anyone of the doubters fancy it ?

What odds are you giving?

Its a charity best soft lad.

[The Grudge]

According to the BBC, Crouch may join Man City in January for 8M.

Well settled that..really relaible the BBC...Bye bye Peter!

[112-1077774096]

BIG ERROR IN THAT REPORT

we aint 4 points off first place

we are 6

and after 8 games that is bad

Arsenals run will not continue mate.

You cannot make such speculations. Its not like they havent done it before.

And its been done in more recent times by the likes of Chelsea and Utd.

Its not that I dont have faith in the team but confidence just seems to be lacking. Whether that is down to just a run of the mill bad patch or other internal factors such as Paco leaving who knows but we are in a frail state right now and need to bounce back sharpish.

Deep down I dont think anyone wants to see Rafa go. The preassure was always going to be that little but harder this year given that Rafa had more financial muscle. With the exception of Torres and Mascherano I still dont know if the recent signings he made are worthy of a championship winning team and further more I think we still need to buy 1 or 2 more. Namley a CB and a new striker as I think Peter Crouch has come to the end of his Liverpool chapter.

They will not continue that run much longer mate, they are no where near the side of the invincibles.

mate they went a full season unbeaten, i know that history now but it shows it can be done, what if the keep scraping wins during their slump. if they beat us mate they will have 9 points on us and we are still in october

Thats a lot of ifs.

If we beat them and if they lose two games this month and if United lose two games and if Chaels dont win two games THEN we will be top.

I cannot believe that some one who blindly feels that Arsenals run will end is accusing other people of usings to many ifs, bloody funny though Leon        oh maybe it wasn't meant to be 

charity bet:

£100 from me, to the HJC if Arsenal continue their run (2.75 points per game) over the next three games (Bolton, Liverpool, United) in the league.

Anyone of the doubters fancy it ?

What odds are you giving?

Its a charity best soft lad.

did you sh*t the bed mate? why are you up so early

[account deleted by request]

RAFA BLAST FOR CRITICS
FOOTBALL EXTRA
By David Maddock 12/10/2007

The Liverpool manager knows there are problems at Anfield after two poor home performances. But instead of sniping, he wants to see people offering support to his players, as he gets them working harder than ever to find a solution.

Benitez knows that his team has lost confidence, and he argues that to point the finger at them - and the management - merely deepens the problems.

And the Anfield boss insisted that fans and former players have to now get behind the club if they want to see the success they yearn for.

"This isn't a time for being negative, it's a time for being positive. We know that we haven't played well, but to respond to that, you have to be positive," Benitez said.

"You can't accept that you will be bad and let everything fall apart. You have to work hard to try and recover.

"It is true we have lost some confidence, but being negative isn't going to get it back. What do people want? For us to give in? No, we will work hard and fight, because that is the only way."

Benitez believes that the snipers have over-reacted to two bad results, and are too quick to lay the blame at his door because of his rotation policy.

He argues passionately that Liverpool, in fact, have had their best start in years, are in contention for all trophies.

"We're are still unbeaten in the Premiership, and we are in a much better position than last year. People seem to forget that," he said.

"We are in a good position, and we have players who will be fit and fresh at the end of the season when it is important."

[112-1077774096]

no rafa, none of us are happy giving criticism, i am sure we all rather give praise,  but here is a novel idea, why don't you sort it out then we can all stop giving, what is after all fair criticism.

[Leonmc0708]

no rafa, none of us are happy giving criticism, i am sure we all rather give praise,  but here is a novel idea, why don't you sort it out then we can all stop giving, what is after all fair criticism.

1) Are you sure about the not happy bit ?

2) Rafa does not read these boards, so directing posts at him is weird

3) I sh.it the bed so thats why I was on so early.

[account deleted by request]

2) Rafa does not read these boards,

Do you know that for a fact, that he has never had a look around the sites?