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Back on topic, I thought Lucas had a decent first half against Portsmouth (from admittedly a poor stream) linked the play well and without really imposing himself on the game worked hard and made a few good runs. Second half I thought he gradually became a more peripheral figure as we pressed for the all important goal. Overall I would say he played about a 6 or 7 over the whole game.

I think to make an impact he will have to show he has a little more to his game than hard work and neat passing though. He has shown he does have more to his game but only in flashes, he now needs to step up his game and start showing these flashes but on a regular basis rather than in brief glimpses.

I think at the moment he looks a decent squad player, I hope he can show he is a little more than that as the season progresses.

I think people also have to remember the calibre of player he is trying to replace, Masch, Gerrard and Alonso. I think most players would suffer in any comparison to those three!

[GYBS]

yeah have to agree there saint and hopefully he will grow in confidence and mature as a player more over this season to enable him to become a very decent player for us - like i said earlier reminds me of darren fletcher for the mancs - nothing spectacular about him but has improved over the years to become useful for the mancs as a very decent back up - hopefully lucas can become like that .

[Jimmy the Weasel]

Back on topic, I thought Lucas had a decent first half against Portsmouth (from admittedly a poor stream) linked the play well and without really imposing himself on the game worked hard and made a few good runs. Second half I thought he gradually became a more peripheral figure as we pressed for the all important goal. Overall I would say he played about a 6 or 7 over the whole game.

I think to make an impact he will have to show he has a little more to his game than hard work and neat passing though. He has shown he does have more to his game but only in flashes, he now needs to step up his game and start showing these flashes but on a regular basis rather than in brief glimpses.

I think at the moment he looks a decent squad player, I hope he can show he is a little more than that as the season progresses.

I think people also have to remember the calibre of player he is trying to replace, Masch, Gerrard and Alonso. I think most players would suffer in any comparison to those three!

In comparison, yeh I agree that he would "suffer" in that sense.

But the flip-side is that he couldn't have four better players from whom he can and should be able to learn his trade and improve.

[Jimmy the Weasel]

Anyone else converted yet? Lucas is a deeply average footballer, further evidence on display tonight.

Opportunity to step up and command the midfield as the experienced head in there.... nothing.

[GYBS]

Im pretty sure he would do better if he had help - totally isolated on his own there until xabi came on and now he is starting to play better - that ball  for degen prime example and in the first half he was the only player getting stuck in and giving it a go .

[heimdall]

Im pretty sure he would do better if he had help - totally isolated on his own there until xabi came on and now he is starting to play better - that ball  for degen prime example and in the first half he was the only player getting stuck in and giving it a go .

GYBS, I don't know what you see in Lucas becuase I see nothing from him. I had actually forgotten that he cost us £11 million, add that to the £7million for Dossena and you can start to understand why we are in the sh1t financially.
i thought the only player who got stuck in especially inthe first half was Babel, maybe we appreciate different things, I like someone who creates a goal threat whereas you like a plank of wood 

[metalhead]

Im pretty sure he would do better if he had help - totally isolated on his own there until xabi came on and now he is starting to play better - that ball  for degen prime example and in the first half he was the only player getting stuck in and giving it a go .

GYBS, I don't know what you see in Lucas becuase I see nothing from him. I had actually forgotten that he cost us £11 million, add that to the £7million for Dossena and you can start to understand why we are in the sh1t financially.
i thought the only player who got stuck in especially inthe first half was Babel, maybe we appreciate different things, I like someone who creates a goal threat whereas you like a plank of wood 

Heimdall, Lucas costed us 6m mate.

[heimdall]

Im pretty sure he would do better if he had help - totally isolated on his own there until xabi came on and now he is starting to play better - that ball  for degen prime example and in the first half he was the only player getting stuck in and giving it a go .

GYBS, I don't know what you see in Lucas becuase I see nothing from him. I had actually forgotten that he cost us £11 million, add that to the £7million for Dossena and you can start to understand why we are in the sh1t financially.
i thought the only player who got stuck in especially inthe first half was Babel, maybe we appreciate different things, I like someone who creates a goal threat whereas you like a plank of wood 

Heimdall, Lucas costed us 6m mate.

oops, I'll blame that one on BigMick, but it's still far too much 

[GYBS]

babel in the first half had one run . That was it .and as been said lucas cost us 6 mil .

[metalhead]

Im pretty sure he would do better if he had help - totally isolated on his own there until xabi came on and now he is starting to play better - that ball  for degen prime example and in the first half he was the only player getting stuck in and giving it a go .

GYBS, I don't know what you see in Lucas becuase I see nothing from him. I had actually forgotten that he cost us £11 million, add that to the £7million for Dossena and you can start to understand why we are in the sh1t financially.
i thought the only player who got stuck in especially inthe first half was Babel, maybe we appreciate different things, I like someone who creates a goal threat whereas you like a plank of wood 

Heimdall, Lucas costed us 6m mate.

oops, I'll blame that one on BigMick, but it's still far too much 

Yeh for his standard it is.

[tubby]

I cant believe we paid 6Mil for him. Seriously Rafa is not doing himself any favours in playing this guy he is a liability whenever he comes on.

[LFC2007]

Although he hasn't played many games, when he has played he's been poor (or at least nothing impressive), and after tonight I'm even more convinced he isn't good enough. He may be a good player for someone, but probably not for us, and I'm happy to admit that I think I called this one wrong last season.

[woof woof !]

At a time when many are questioning Alonso's worth to the team I find myself thinking "Well, just how special is Lucas ? "

This is not meant as having a dig at Lucas but let's face it for a Brazilian midfielder the fella has yet to produce a flash of magic you would normally expect from a player with his pedigree and heritage and despite Alonso's below par season I fail to see why some think it wouldn't be a major loss if Alonso should go and so little is said about Lucas' less than newsworthy performances given that after Gerrard and Mascherano the third place midfield spot falls to either Alonso or Lucas.

Lucas is neat , he's tidy , erm ....... I'm hard pressed to say anything else apart from he's also very lightweight , gets brushed off the ball and decked by any opposing player that puts in a serious challenge and the majority of his own tackles seem to result in a free kick for the opposition. Offers little in terms of goal threat or creativity.


As far as I'm concerned Lucas' performances for us have so far been distinctly average, don't see that the lad has any real future with us, apart from being a handy fill in when Mascher is unavailable, or am I missing something ?

Seven months since I posed the question and I think I can safely say

        I'm not missing anything, apart from the fact the he's maybe not even as neat and tidy as I once gave him credit for.

Waste of a shirt number.

[NANNY RED]

He looked terrified tonight Woof . I dunno but i cant really see him getting any better . I feel sorry for the lad to be honest cause i really think hes outta his dept

[Bam]

At a time when many are questioning Alonso's worth to the team I find myself thinking "Well, just how special is Lucas ? "

This is not meant as having a dig at Lucas but let's face it for a Brazilian midfielder the fella has yet to produce a flash of magic you would normally expect from a player with his pedigree and heritage and despite Alonso's below par season I fail to see why some think it wouldn't be a major loss if Alonso should go and so little is said about Lucas' less than newsworthy performances given that after Gerrard and Mascherano the third place midfield spot falls to either Alonso or Lucas.

Lucas is neat , he's tidy , erm ....... I'm hard pressed to say anything else apart from he's also very lightweight , gets brushed off the ball and decked by any opposing player that puts in a serious challenge and the majority of his own tackles seem to result in a free kick for the opposition. Offers little in terms of goal threat or creativity.


As far as I'm concerned Lucas' performances for us have so far been distinctly average, don't see that the lad has any real future with us, apart from being a handy fill in when Mascher is unavailable, or am I missing something ?

Seven months since I posed the question and I think I can safely say

        I'm not missing anything, apart from the fact the he's maybe not even as neat and tidy as I once gave him credit for.

Waste of a shirt number.

Waste of skin.

He is Terry-Bubble