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[redbeergoggles]

Kuyt is good fella ,that much was glaringly obvious to all of us who sat in the Kop last season .

[DrPepe]

Not the "Black Spot" just the weakest link,he makes Kuyt look good

fair enough you have that opinion of lucas - he ain't exactly pulling up trees

but suggesting kuyt is no good certainly detracts from your "argument" 

[glenbuck patriot]

sorry should have made my point clear.... i like Kuyt when he plays in his propper position he plays well for Holland... goal every other game, he works hard, nobody works harder but he's wasted on the right......... and before you all get onto me he does have the touch of a baby rhino sometimes

[REDTILLDEAD]

sorry should have made my point clear.... i like Kuyt when he plays in his propper position he plays well for Holland... goal every other game, he works hard, nobody works harder but he's wasted on the right......... and before you all get onto me he does have the touch of a baby rhino sometimes

While 'the great rafa' keeps playing kuyt on the right you wont see many goals from him.....he is more effective up front....but you might as well talk to the wall....coz' rafa aint, and wont listen.

[heimdall]

Not the "Black Spot" just the weakest link,he makes Kuyt look good

fair enough you have that opinion of lucas - he ain't exactly pulling up trees

but suggesting kuyt is no good certainly detracts from your "argument" 

So are you suggesting that Kut is a great player 
Don't get me wrong he does a fairly good job for the team but he really shouldn't be a regular starter, I would much rather have Glen playing right midfield instead of Kuyt. Do you think we can retrain Kuyt to be a RB, I actually think he'd make a bloody good defender. 

[Ben Patrick]

People will probably come back at this suggestion saying we virtually do this anyway.

But what about giving 4-3-3 a go ?

Our 4-5-1 is more of a rigid formation with the wide players being made to stay out wide.
While that can be good if you are wanting stretch things, if the wide players are not entirely comfortable with the ball at their feet out wide without much support then they dont do a great deal when in possesion in key areas.

The 4-3-3 could work with Kuyt and Babel playing alongsie Torres in the same formation they play for Holland.
Stevie could be the further forward of the three with Lucas and Mascherano sitting deeper it would take some of the pressure off lucas as well until aquilani is back fit.

My only issue is Riera is a better player than Babel and might not be as comfortable pushed further infield.

Anyway i know most will say that we virtually play that formation anyway but just a little tweak to it could benefit Babel and Kuyt.

[DrPepe]

So are you suggesting that Kut is a great player 
Don't get me wrong he does a fairly good job for the team but he really shouldn't be a regular starter, I would much rather have Glen playing right midfield instead of Kuyt. Do you think we can retrain Kuyt to be a RB, I actually think he'd make a bloody good defender. 

No I'm not.

I'm suggesting he's a good player, hence my use of the aformentioned word 

[GYBS]

sorry should have made my point clear.... i like Kuyt when he plays in his propper position he plays well for Holland... goal every other game, he works hard, nobody works harder but he's wasted on the right......... and before you all get onto me he does have the touch of a baby rhino sometimes

While 'the great rafa' keeps playing kuyt on the right you wont see many goals from him.....he is more effective up front....but you might as well talk to the wall....coz' rafa aint, and wont listen.

Im sure only two people scored more goals in the club last season than kuyt and only one other right sided player in the prem scored more goals than kuyt so that suggests to me that Rafa knows what he is doing with regards Kuyt and you dont have the first clue .

[bigmick]

sorry should have made my point clear.... i like Kuyt when he plays in his propper position he plays well for Holland... goal every other game, he works hard, nobody works harder but he's wasted on the right......... and before you all get onto me he does have the touch of a baby rhino sometimes

While 'the great rafa' keeps playing kuyt on the right you wont see many goals from him.....he is more effective up front....but you might as well talk to the wall....coz' rafa aint, and wont listen.

Im sure only two people scored more goals in the club last season than kuyt and only one other right sided player in the prem scored more goals than kuyt so that suggests to me that Rafa knows what he is doing with regards Kuyt and you dont have the first clue .

Started this season pretty poorly though if truth be known. Someone mentioned earlier on moving Kuyt to right back and playing Johnson on the right. Such is Johnsons form and Kuyts lack thereof, it almost makes you think for a second.


Obviously it was a ridiculous suggestion and was only mentioned in jest, but all the same. Nobodies suggesting for a moment it would work anyway, Kuyt couldn't play right back.

[GYBS]

not many players bar johnson and prob pepe have started anything but poorly but kuyt still been involved in a couple of goals and got himself a couple of assists already this season . No doubt kuyts work has helped johnson immensely so far with the space he creates for him.

[bigmick]

He's started poorly GYBS, nowhere near what his form was last season. Yes you can say he's not on his own, (as predictably you are) but he looks like his form may become a worry before too long unless it improves drastically. His decision making and option taking has been truly awful at times, and I just hope he doesn't begin to lose confidence and plumb the depths of some of his previous periods in a red shirt. We really don't need that and neither does he no doubt.

[GYBS]

yet his decision making and options helped us get a very crucial equaliser on sat and also helped us to get a very good win against stoke not too mention the great link up play with johnson so while he isnt on top of his game he still is contributing to the team positively and not too much of a worry - off course all those people who dont like kuyt and want him rid ( no not saying you ) will be rubbing there hands with glee and cant wait for him to start playing poorly . Thats the way of life on the forum these days - people seem far too happy for players to prove they arent good enough just to show they are right about a player ( once again not aiming this at you )

[Scottbot]

People will probably come back at this suggestion saying we virtually do this anyway.

But what about giving 4-3-3 a go ?

Our 4-5-1 is more of a rigid formation with the wide players being made to stay out wide.

Your kidding aren't ya? With Kuyt and Benny playing out wide!? Neither player hogs the touchline and Johnson is playing very high up the pitch which has allowed Kuyt to come inside and spend a little more time in and around Torres from what i've seen this season.

[burjennio]

He's started poorly GYBS, nowhere near what his form was last season. Yes you can say he's not on his own, (as predictably you are) but he looks like his form may become a worry before too long unless it improves drastically. His decision making and option taking has been truly awful at times, and I just hope he doesn't begin to lose confidence and plumb the depths of some of his previous periods in a red shirt. We really don't need that and neither does he no doubt.

Tell you what if Gerrard had layed of the ball to Torres for his goal on Saturday some of you would have w*nked over it. But nope, hes Dirk Kuyt and he's awful

Yes you can say he's not on his own, (as predictably you are)

What does that mean exactly? That everyone else gets a by-ball except Dirk Kuyt becasue you don't rate him?

Get over yourself mate, there is stubborness then there is just plain arrogance when it comes to having an unflinching opinion. If you don't realize the contribution the guy has made to LFC since we signed him then their is no hope for you.

[bigmick]

This is a strange post. His layoff to Torres was a very good piece of play, but there really isn't any need for the rest of your comment. As for the "what does this mean exactly?" no it doesn't mean that everyone else gets a "by-ball" because I don't rate him. It's wrong on every count. I DO rate him as a right midfielder, last season he was excellent and proved me and many others wrong. I don't know how many times I've said that, but the predictability of the whole situation is you can't make a general point about Kuyt without people going completely off the rails, just as you have here.

All that "get over yourself" b0ll0cks, and the "plain arrogance".  You want to have a re-read of the posts in question fella and ask yourself who is being arrogant and who needs to get over themselves.


Re-read what I said "he's started the season pretty poorly if truth be known", Feck me sorry for slagging the bloke off so much. As for the bit about there being "no hope for me" if I can't see what you can see, I'd agree with that.