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[GYBS]

If we had Tevez then I'm not sure Gerrard and Torres would be automatic starts any more

This is what you said in the Tevez thread .

[heimdall]

If we had Tevez then I'm not sure Gerrard and Torres would be automatic starts any more

This is what you said in the Tevez thread .

In your mind is the sentence "If we had Tevez then I'm not sure Gerrard and Torres would be automatic starts any more" exactly the same as "gerrard and torres wont be automatic first choice if we get tevez" ?

I guess it must be, to most sane people however I am merely stating that I think Tevez would give both Torres and Gerrard some needed competition for places and would certainly give Rafa a lot more options. It amazes me how you always twist facts to suit your tired inept arguments.   

[heimdall]

Will just go and search the post - as you actually stated that if we got tevez Torres and Gerrard would no longer be automatic first choices .

Also please show me where i said Lucas would be th enext Zidane .

Maybe you didn't say that but in any case please explain how Lucas is a Liverpool standard midfielder without referring to something I have said in the past which you have conveniently twisted to suit your argument.

[GYBS]

If we had Tevez then I'm not sure Gerrard and Torres would be automatic starts any more

This is what you said in the Tevez thread .

In your mind is the sentence "If we had Tevez then I'm not sure Gerrard and Torres would be automatic starts any more" exactly the same as "gerrard and torres wont be automatic first choice if we get tevez" ?

I guess it must be, to most sane people however I am merely stating that I think Tevez would give both Torres and Gerrard some needed competition for places and would certainly give Rafa a lot more options. It amazes me how you always twist facts to suit your tired inept arguments.   

there is no twisting anything heimdall - Gerrard and Torres and two of the best footballers in the world - there is no maybe about them being first choice or might not be first choice - the fact you even let it enter your brain for a split second is bad enough - those two would be automatic first choices in every single team in the world .

[GYBS]

Will just go and search the post - as you actually stated that if we got tevez Torres and Gerrard would no longer be automatic first choices .

Also please show me where i said Lucas would be th enext Zidane .

Maybe you didn't say that but in any case please explain how Lucas is a Liverpool standard midfielder without referring to something I have said in the past which you have conveniently twisted to suit your argument.

I will say it again - i think he is good enough to be a back up to our midfield and is still young enough to improve further - for reasons why read the thread then get back to me .

[heimdall]

If we had Tevez then I'm not sure Gerrard and Torres would be automatic starts any more

This is what you said in the Tevez thread .

In your mind is the sentence "If we had Tevez then I'm not sure Gerrard and Torres would be automatic starts any more" exactly the same as "gerrard and torres wont be automatic first choice if we get tevez" ?

I guess it must be, to most sane people however I am merely stating that I think Tevez would give both Torres and Gerrard some needed competition for places and would certainly give Rafa a lot more options. It amazes me how you always twist facts to suit your tired inept arguments.   

there is no twisting anything heimdall - Gerrard and Torres and two of the best footballers in the world - there is no maybe about them being first choice or might not be first choice - the fact you even let it enter your brain for a split second is bad enough - those two would be automatic first choices in every single team in the world .

Ok so you'd play Torres and Gerrard even though they looked in training would you or even if they were having bad games which they have both had this season. All I can say is thank god you're not the manager GYBS. 

And yes you are trying to twist things because you know damned well that I consider Torres and Gerrard as two of the greatest footballers in the game today, but competition for places is ALWAYS a good thing and at the moment they have no competition at all.

Lately you seem to be pursuing these weird lines of argument that make no sense at all. Is it so very hard to admit you are wrong just once, is your insecurity really so great?

[heimdall]

Will just go and search the post - as you actually stated that if we got tevez Torres and Gerrard would no longer be automatic first choices .

Also please show me where i said Lucas would be th enext Zidane .

Maybe you didn't say that but in any case please explain how Lucas is a Liverpool standard midfielder without referring to something I have said in the past which you have conveniently twisted to suit your argument.

I will say it again - i think he is good enough to be a back up to our midfield and is still young enough to improve further - for reasons why read the thread then get back to me .

Is it his passing, tactical awareness, quickness, shooting or all of the above which particularly impresses you?
becuase those are the reasons why I don't rate him, anyway lets agree to disagree, will we ever agree on something. 

[GYBS]

If we had Tevez then I'm not sure Gerrard and Torres would be automatic starts any more

This is what you said in the Tevez thread .

In your mind is the sentence "If we had Tevez then I'm not sure Gerrard and Torres would be automatic starts any more" exactly the same as "gerrard and torres wont be automatic first choice if we get tevez" ?

I guess it must be, to most sane people however I am merely stating that I think Tevez would give both Torres and Gerrard some needed competition for places and would certainly give Rafa a lot more options. It amazes me how you always twist facts to suit your tired inept arguments.   

there is no twisting anything heimdall - Gerrard and Torres and two of the best footballers in the world - there is no maybe about them being first choice or might not be first choice - the fact you even let it enter your brain for a split second is bad enough - those two would be automatic first choices in every single team in the world .

Ok so you'd play Torres and Gerrard even though they looked in training would you or even if they were having bad games which they have both had this season. All I can say is thank god you're not the manager GYBS. 

And yes you are trying to twist things because you know damned well that I consider Torres and Gerrard as two of the greatest footballers in the game today, but competition for places is ALWAYS a good thing and at the moment they have no competition at all.

Lately you seem to be pursuing these weird lines of argument that make no sense at all. Is it so very hard to admit you are wrong just once, is your insecurity really so great?

Yes i would play gerrard and torres every fecking game - its simple you play your best players - the only time they would both even considered not playing is through injury . Simple as that . Permanent Automatic first choices - end of and i expect pretty much 99.9999999999999999999% of liverpool fans would agree bar the odd plank.

Makes no sense ?!??! your the one saying they might not be automatic first choices if we got Tevez

[Bad Bob]

In your mind is the sentence "If we had Tevez then I'm not sure Gerrard and Torres would be automatic starts any more" exactly the same as "gerrard and torres wont be automatic first choice if we get tevez" ?

Am I missing something here?   They read as virtually identical statements to me.

[GYBS]

well that was my point bob but it seemed to off been lost by the originator

[Festy]

well that was my point bob but it seemed to off been lost by the originator

No but those sentences were meant to be different for you which you obviously failed to understand.

By the way why do you think Lucas has the potential to be next Gerrard/Zidane ?

[GYBS]

Ok for the third and final time and hopefully it may get into your brain

Show me where i said Lucas has the potential to be the next Zidane/Gerrard

And those sentances seemed to me and others to mean the same .

[oreilly]

Gerrard and Torres are doing just fine without any competition.

Tevez for 30 million- off ........ we can spend it better ways.

Ribery and Barry could be got for that amount

[heimdall]

In your mind is the sentence "If we had Tevez then I'm not sure Gerrard and Torres would be automatic starts any more" exactly the same as "gerrard and torres wont be automatic first choice if we get tevez" ?

Am I missing something here?   They read as virtually identical statements to me.

You are kidding right, you can't see the difference between those two statements? In the first I am basically saying that they MIGHT not be automatic choices in the other I would be saying that they definitely will NOT be automatic choices. In my mind that is more than a slight difference.

[Festy]

Gerrard and Torres are doing just fine without any competition.

Tevez for 30 million- off ........ we can spend it better ways.

Ribery and Barry could be got for that amount

I wish we were after Ribery.