Liverpool FC Forum

[Rush Job]

Its a fair question mate but IMO we wouldnt get any closer to winning it by selling our best player.
People are saying we could bring in 3 or 4 quality players and that could be true but only one of them could take SG`s place on the park, who could do a better job and have the same overall impact??

[redhayesy]

heart & head says NO . for the 1 only reason we have to & need to build LFC around SG not weaken it. you can say all you want to about no player is bigger than the club, & i totally agree with that but when you talk about any sort of money for a player who didn't leave us when money was a major influence in trying to prize him away from our club,& chose to stay with somthing & someone he loves then loyalty, respect works both ways for me.

£80 mill is stupid money for any player ,but even if people say every player has their price etc then i will always argue that their is a difference between a player wanting to leave & a player sold for finacial gain.

£80 mill would not be good business anyway as ALL the fecking money would be used to swallow up fecking debts kunt & kunter have built up anyway, so their would be no fecking money to even try to replace the best player we have had at this FC for many a year!

forget the politics around everthing else, SG  at any price would be fecking madness & with JC  our only life blood scousers left in the first team it would be even worse for the fact that as much as i would love to see some resy players/youth players progress into the first team /squad that our quest for the title IMHO will make it even more impossible for this to happpen.

as our impatience (with some fans) may think to sell SG for £80 mill would be good business - for me it would be totall faulse economy,he lives breathes, eates LFC.  & my final point is i sincerly believe EVERY side in europe would want SG  in their side but know as do LFC (after parry,tried to feck up) MONEY doesn't buy you happiness. some people have short memories when it comes to players showing their loyalty,true colours & for me SG showed what he is all about - A RED THROUGH & THROUGH.

[NANNY RED]

Its like asking me is the pope catholic, dont be fecking stupid , Nada , not a chance

[redhayesy]

Its like asking me is the pope catholic, dont be fecking stupid , Nada , not a chance

  nail on head NR,love the nada bit!

[NANNY RED]

put it this way Fernando will rip your head off,What a great article


There are generally only two names in the mix when the title of best player in the world is under discussion and Steven Gerrard is never one of them.

The soon to be most valuable footballer of them all, Real Madrid's £80m man Cristiano Ronaldo, and his long-time rival Lionel Messi at Barcelona tend to be regarded as the best two talents the game has to offer, but one high-profile observer believes Liverpool's inspirational skipper is well worth a mention in this debate.

In the opinion of Spain and Liverpool striker Fernando Torres, 2010 could be the year that sees Gerrard earn the praise many of his admirers believe he is overdue, with the World Cup finals providing the ultimate stage to confirm his class.

While Gerrard collected the Player of the Year award from England's football journalists last month, the Liverpool talisman is always well down the pecking order when the more prestigious end of year prizes are handed out, but Torres is convinced all that could be about to change.

"When people talk about the best footballers in Europe, they always single out Messi, and Ronaldo, but Gerrard is just as strong," begins Torres, who confirmed his commitment to Liverpool by signing a new contract at Anfield last month.

"Messi and Ronaldo are special talents and the fact that they are in teams winning the important trophies means they stand out from the rest. Maybe you need to win something to earn the big awards, I don't know, but we all understand how good Gerrard is.

"I'm spoilt having a team-mate like Gerrard as I can count on him supplying me with perfect passes. You make the run into the space and however tightly marked he is, he finds a way to get the ball through in perfect condition.

"The highest compliment I can pay him is that he's as creative as a Xavi at Barcelona, with something extra as well. When you add his energy, toughness, leadership and goal scoring ability and the result is a fantastic all-round player.

"Maybe I am biased because he is my team-mate and friend, but Stevie does not get the credit he deserves either in England or with European fans. This can change in 2010 when he has a chance to confirm his class with Liverpool and in the World Cup."

You only need to spend five minutes in the company of Torres to appreciate just how deeply he has been gripped by his Liverpool love affair during the two highly-prolific years he has spent wearing the famous red No.9 shirt.

Idolised by the fanatics who call Anfield's Kop home, Torres is not merely paying lip service to his followers when he talks about his dream of winning the English league title, as he fully appreciates the significance of such a triumph.

Clearly hungry to win his first major trophy in a Liverpool shirt, Torres admits he has been caught up in a local battle that may not be a natural duel for a young Spaniard to get embroiled with.

"They say foreign players don't care as much as the home grown, but we are very much aware that Liverpool haven't won the Premier League for 20 years and understand the supporters are desperate for us to put that right," he continues.

"The rivalry with Manchester United is intense and the roof will come off at Anfield if we beat them to next year's title. Obviously the Champions League means a lot to Liverpool, but the English title is the one everyone wants in our dressing room.

"I was brought up at Atletico Madrid, where the love of the team's colours knows no bounds. It's the same at Liverpool, though on an even larger scale. We have fans not only in this city, but literally all over the world.

"Liverpool Football Club is a phenomenon, with millions of fans totally identify with everything the club stands for. They are at one with the players and that's why the backing we get at Anfield and from the away support is second to none.

"This club has it all: the history, the prestige, the fans, the organisation. It's a big responsibility to give the fans here the success they desire, but the challenge is always exhilarating and this is why I was delighted to sign a new contract.

"I can never feel flat during a game at Anfield as there's a unique solidarity as football is what our supporters live for and you don't always find this at the major clubs. Loyalty comes and goes for some clubs, but it's permanent for Liverpool fans.

"Now we need to win the big trophies and we can trust Rafa Benitez to keep the upward momentum going for us. He is a great manager and has helped me improve so much in my time at Liverpool. I left Spain when I was still young, but my manager has helped me to mature.

"I'm so happy in England. The crowds and the pitches we play on are perfect and the attitude is great. The biggest players like Gerrard, Frank Lampard and Cesc Fabregas know the first rule of the game is to put the team before themselves. This is why English teams are so successful right now."

After scoring the winning goal for Spain in Euro 2008 last summer, Torres endured a stuttering season at Liverpool, with fatigue appearing to get in the way of his ambitions.

With this in mind, some have questioned the wisdom of his participation playing in the Confederations Cup tournament in South Africa this month, yet he insists the breaks he was forced to take during the season means he can push his body through another tiring tournament this summer.

"I feel fine and I'm looking forward to this tournament," adds Torres. "I know I need to stay fit next season as this will help Liverpool win prizes and, obviously, the World Cup is the big target for Spain. Still the Confederations Cup is important also.

"Every time the Spanish national team comes together, we want to win. We're on a long, successful run at the moment and have standards to maintain. We have built up a tremendous amount of confidence and are a very proud set of players. The Confederations Cup would be nice but clearly the number one objective is to do really well at the World Cup.

"It's normal for us to be highly-rated when people think about the World Cup as we are the European champions. Barcelona's Champions League victory is bound to raise expectations too and this is something we have to live with.

"Still, the World Cup is our biggest test. So many times in the past Spain have promised a lot, but failed to deliver. We showed what we are capable of last summer and I'm confident of more of the same next year. Not only do we have the talent, we love being together as a group and this unity can take us long, long way."

If a poll was taken to crown the best striker in the world, Torres may well come out on top. Should he stay fully-fit for the upcoming season with Liverpool and Spain, he may well challenge Ronaldo, Messi and even Gerrard for the title of best footballer in the world 12 months from now.

[Judge]

Its like asking me is the pope catholic, dont be fecking stupid , Nada , not a chance

  nail on head NR,love the nada bit!

6 nails in the head haysey

[heimdall]

Its like asking me is the pope catholic, dont be fecking stupid , Nada , not a chance

Are you saying the pope is NOT a catholic, bloody hell that is big news Nanny.   

[maguskwt]

What say we give the transfer market a miss and spend our money cloning Torres and Gerrard?

That'll be great... I won't play two Torreses at the same time though that will be ineffective I will have one of them as a spare to play when one get's injured ^^. Gerrard though can play in many positions...

                        Reina

Arbeloa    Carragher    Agger   Aurelio

Gerrard      Gerrard    Alonso      Riera

                Gerrard
                             Torres

[bigmick]

put it this way Fernando will rip your head off,What a great article


There are generally only two names in the mix when the title of best player in the world is under discussion and Steven Gerrard is never one of them.

The soon to be most valuable footballer of them all, Real Madrid's £80m man Cristiano Ronaldo, and his long-time rival Lionel Messi at Barcelona tend to be regarded as the best two talents the game has to offer, but one high-profile observer believes Liverpool's inspirational skipper is well worth a mention in this debate.

In the opinion of Spain and Liverpool striker Fernando Torres, 2010 could be the year that sees Gerrard earn the praise many of his admirers believe he is overdue, with the World Cup finals providing the ultimate stage to confirm his class.

While Gerrard collected the Player of the Year award from England's football journalists last month, the Liverpool talisman is always well down the pecking order when the more prestigious end of year prizes are handed out, but Torres is convinced all that could be about to change.

"When people talk about the best footballers in Europe, they always single out Messi, and Ronaldo, but Gerrard is just as strong," begins Torres, who confirmed his commitment to Liverpool by signing a new contract at Anfield last month.

"Messi and Ronaldo are special talents and the fact that they are in teams winning the important trophies means they stand out from the rest. Maybe you need to win something to earn the big awards, I don't know, but we all understand how good Gerrard is.

"I'm spoilt having a team-mate like Gerrard as I can count on him supplying me with perfect passes. You make the run into the space and however tightly marked he is, he finds a way to get the ball through in perfect condition.

"The highest compliment I can pay him is that he's as creative as a Xavi at Barcelona, with something extra as well. When you add his energy, toughness, leadership and goal scoring ability and the result is a fantastic all-round player.

"Maybe I am biased because he is my team-mate and friend, but Stevie does not get the credit he deserves either in England or with European fans. This can change in 2010 when he has a chance to confirm his class with Liverpool and in the World Cup."

You only need to spend five minutes in the company of Torres to appreciate just how deeply he has been gripped by his Liverpool love affair during the two highly-prolific years he has spent wearing the famous red No.9 shirt.

Idolised by the fanatics who call Anfield's Kop home, Torres is not merely paying lip service to his followers when he talks about his dream of winning the English league title, as he fully appreciates the significance of such a triumph.

Clearly hungry to win his first major trophy in a Liverpool shirt, Torres admits he has been caught up in a local battle that may not be a natural duel for a young Spaniard to get embroiled with.

"They say foreign players don't care as much as the home grown, but we are very much aware that Liverpool haven't won the Premier League for 20 years and understand the supporters are desperate for us to put that right," he continues.

"The rivalry with Manchester United is intense and the roof will come off at Anfield if we beat them to next year's title. Obviously the Champions League means a lot to Liverpool, but the English title is the one everyone wants in our dressing room.

"I was brought up at Atletico Madrid, where the love of the team's colours knows no bounds. It's the same at Liverpool, though on an even larger scale. We have fans not only in this city, but literally all over the world.

"Liverpool Football Club is a phenomenon, with millions of fans totally identify with everything the club stands for. They are at one with the players and that's why the backing we get at Anfield and from the away support is second to none.

"This club has it all: the history, the prestige, the fans, the organisation. It's a big responsibility to give the fans here the success they desire, but the challenge is always exhilarating and this is why I was delighted to sign a new contract.

"I can never feel flat during a game at Anfield as there's a unique solidarity as football is what our supporters live for and you don't always find this at the major clubs. Loyalty comes and goes for some clubs, but it's permanent for Liverpool fans.

"Now we need to win the big trophies and we can trust Rafa Benitez to keep the upward momentum going for us. He is a great manager and has helped me improve so much in my time at Liverpool. I left Spain when I was still young, but my manager has helped me to mature.

"I'm so happy in England. The crowds and the pitches we play on are perfect and the attitude is great. The biggest players like Gerrard, Frank Lampard and Cesc Fabregas know the first rule of the game is to put the team before themselves. This is why English teams are so successful right now."

After scoring the winning goal for Spain in Euro 2008 last summer, Torres endured a stuttering season at Liverpool, with fatigue appearing to get in the way of his ambitions.

With this in mind, some have questioned the wisdom of his participation playing in the Confederations Cup tournament in South Africa this month, yet he insists the breaks he was forced to take during the season means he can push his body through another tiring tournament this summer.

"I feel fine and I'm looking forward to this tournament," adds Torres. "I know I need to stay fit next season as this will help Liverpool win prizes and, obviously, the World Cup is the big target for Spain. Still the Confederations Cup is important also.

"Every time the Spanish national team comes together, we want to win. We're on a long, successful run at the moment and have standards to maintain. We have built up a tremendous amount of confidence and are a very proud set of players. The Confederations Cup would be nice but clearly the number one objective is to do really well at the World Cup.

"It's normal for us to be highly-rated when people think about the World Cup as we are the European champions. Barcelona's Champions League victory is bound to raise expectations too and this is something we have to live with.

"Still, the World Cup is our biggest test. So many times in the past Spain have promised a lot, but failed to deliver. We showed what we are capable of last summer and I'm confident of more of the same next year. Not only do we have the talent, we love being together as a group and this unity can take us long, long way."

If a poll was taken to crown the best striker in the world, Torres may well come out on top. Should he stay fully-fit for the upcoming season with Liverpool and Spain, he may well challenge Ronaldo, Messi and even Gerrard for the title of best footballer in the world 12 months from now.

Brilliant read that nanny thanks.

Torres really does appear to be like Alonso, a perfect combination of ultra talented footballer and good professional as well. I've no doubt all mothers and fathers are proud of all their kids regardlerss almost of what they do, but in both these cases the parents can give themselves a huge pat on the back. 

God has given these guys the talent to earn thousands of pounds a week kicking a ball around better than almost anybody else, but their backgrounds, their grounding and their families have given them the backbone and the character to become the men they are.

On the question of Gerrard and how good he is, I think he is underrated by many. I wouldn't have anybody else in the World in preference to him, and although I know many wouldn't agree with me, I include Messi and Ronaldo.

For me once againt the difference is character, the man. Messi may develop it in time, he's probably got it to a large extent already, but Ronaldo hasn't. The Portuguese relies on his prodigiouss talent to light up games, but if it all goes to pot you wouldn't be relying on him to dig you out of the sh!t. Not for Ronaldo would be heading a fantastic goal with the score at 0-3 and willing the crowd and the team on. Not for Ronaldo two fantastic equalisers in an FA Cup final, one possibly the best FA Cup final goal ever scored in the dying seconds when you're 3-2 down. Had Gerrard been playing for us against Barca and we'd been bossed and 2-0 down like the Mancs were, he'd have done something. Feck knows what, but a header or a free kick or a blockbuster long range effort would have changed the game. That's what Gerrard does, it's called character. That's why for me he's the best player in the World today.

[centarec]

I wouldnt sell him unless Madrid offered like 200 mil. Than we could really buy 5 top players ,, but still no Steve G (( . Amd for 80 mil , no way

[Number 9]

£80m is a lot of dough for a man under 12 months from his 30th, honestly I would give it serious consideration and I bet that's more than 2/3 of the voters did.

You are an absolute tool and off!!

[Igor Zidane]

We don't sell our best players unless we have someone better coming in and who is better than Gerrard. NOONE. FACT.

[Bretc]

A resounding NO! Stevie G is our captain, he exerts immense influence, he's the soul of the team. He loves LIVERPOOL! He is LIVERPOOL! Even if we can get 3 to 5 world class players with that kind of $, Gerrard's influence can never be replaced. And that alone will destroy us.

Ronaldo, no doubt a great player technically, it's obvious he does not have the personality of a great player. He's arrogant, dives, cheats, whines and has no loyalty whatsoever. That is the difference between Ronaldo and Gerrard. A talented cheat vs a great player. Man U have done a great piece of business here. They can just sign a few technically gifted players to replace their No. 7. The damage is minimal.

[tubby]

He also nailed Paris Hilton the other day. Lucky .

[dawson99]

He also nailed Paris Hilton the other day. Lucky .

thats one dvd i wont be renting tho!