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[JC_81]

My take on him so far is that he is intelligent player, i like his movement and the runs he has been making since he got tot the club. He looks like quite an opportunisitc player with some instincts for a goal and he is very hard-working. On the flip side and on the basis of what we have seen so far he isn't going to go past many defenders with tricks or out an out pace and he perhaps needs to get a little stronger. He doesn't (at this moment) jump out as a £10 million pound player BUT I think he needs time to find some confidence which you could see was lacking a bit in his game at the weekend.

Pretty much agree with that assessment mate.  He looks a decent player with a great attitude at the moment.  Works tirelessly, good pace and intelligent runs but hasn't taken his chances so far.  Has missed two sitters, vs Hearts and vs City that for 10 mil you'd probably expect him to bury.  That said he's young, still settling and every striker misses chances, even the best.  I think he'll turn out to be a good buy for that price.

[Benny The Noon]

this is becoming a problem!

They are posting more than everyone else . The upgrade has killed this place - hardly any posts these days - mods have all disappeared bar St Mike.

It's an empty shell now

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

My take on him so far is that he is intelligent player, i like his movement and the runs he has been making since he got tot the club. He looks like quite an opportunisitc player with some instincts for a goal and he is very hard-working. On the flip side and on the basis of what we have seen so far he isn't going to go past many defenders with tricks or out an out pace and he perhaps needs to get a little stronger. He doesn't (at this moment) jump out as a £10 million pound player BUT I think he needs time to find some confidence which you could see was lacking a bit in his game at the weekend.

Pretty much agree with that assessment mate.  He looks a decent player with a great attitude at the moment.  Works tirelessly, good pace and intelligent runs but hasn't taken his chances so far.  Has missed two sitters, vs Hearts and vs City that for 10 mil you'd probably expect him to bury.  That said he's young, still settling and every striker misses chances, even the best.  I think he'll turn out to be a good buy for that price.

i agree mate, at 21 he`s nowhere near the finished article and look how long it took the likes of lucas and carroll (who signed at a similar age) to start showing what they could do. at the moment i think he`s just too eager to impress and he`s snatching at chances, once he`s been here a few months and feels a bit more at home i`m sure he`ll start putting those chances away. he seems to be very enthusiastic and is already building a bit of a rapport with the crowd which will help him settle quicker. loved the way he gestured to the kop in the middle of a big game. he seems like a bit of a character.

[metalhead]

I'm sorry, maybe it's me, but I haven't seen anything so special about this player that makes him stand out.

He is pretty average so far, his decision making is awful, he doesn't seem to link up well with the other attackers and he isn't the type of player that should be playing on the wings! Maybe move him a bit center.

The only positive about him is that ''he works hard''

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

I'm sorry, maybe it's me, but I haven't seen anything so special about this player that makes him stand out.

He is pretty average so far, his decision making is awful, he doesn't seem to link up well with the other attackers and he isn't the type of player that should be playing on the wings! Maybe move him a bit center.

The only positive about him is that ''he works hard''

he`s been played out of position imo, i dont think he has the attributes in his game to play out wide, he`s not particularly tricky or quick and he cant really go past a man.
the `weapons` in his game seem to be good movement, hard work and an instict to be in the right place at the right time, these all point to him being played centrally but i`m not sure that he has the physical strength yet to lead the line in the prem and to go directly head to head against the shawcross`s, john terry`s and vidic`s of this world. you spend a lot of the game with your back to goal playing that role and your an easy target for defenders, i think he might get bullied a bit.
he needs to be either part of a front 2 or the middle player in a very narrow attacking 3 imo

[metalhead]

I'm sorry, maybe it's me, but I haven't seen anything so special about this player that makes him stand out.

He is pretty average so far, his decision making is awful, he doesn't seem to link up well with the other attackers and he isn't the type of player that should be playing on the wings! Maybe move him a bit center.

The only positive about him is that ''he works hard''

he`s been played out of position imo, i dont think he has the attributes in his game to play out wide, he`s not particularly tricky or quick and he cant really go past a man.
the `weapons` in his game seem to be good movement, hard work and an instict to be in the right place at the right time, these all point to him being played centrally but i`m not sure that he has the physical strength yet to lead the line in the prem and to go directly head to head against the shawcross`s, john terry`s and vidic`s of this world. you spend a lot of the game with your back to goal playing that role and your an easy target for defenders, i think he might get bullied a bit.
he needs to be either part of a front 2 or the middle player in a very narrow attacking 3 imo

Yup, that's why players like Drogba and RVP excelled, they were powerful strikers. I agree, I would definitely play him in a central role and let Suarez play on the right wing or drop a bit deeper to link up with midfield.

[The Hustler]

Ive honestly not seen anything from Borini to suggest he should be starting matches.

[aCe']

I had low hopes for him and I'm still disappointed. I think with the style of play we prefer, theres no place for him in the starting lineup. He's nowhere near as good as Suarez is in the central role and will struggle to make the position his own anytime soon. Down the flank he's much more ineffective than I thought he would be. If it came down to a choice of him or Downing/Sterling I'd take the latter 2 in a heartbeat.

He was thrown into the starting lineup too soon imo and he looks like he needs some time to adjust to the league and the physicality of it. We need a striker on the bench and I think he should be that for us.

[Penguins]

Borini is just one example of many why I hate buying players for the future. Why?

1. they are not even close to be playing at their full capacity.
2. It will take years of below par performances playing for the team until that happens.
3. The team will suffer during these years
4. On the field success will not come and once the player comes good the top team snap him up.
5. Still since they have potential you often have to pay ridiculous fees when they aren't even the finished article..

Borini is just one of many.
You have Lucas, who was Sh*t for years which was more ok then cause he often wasn't a dead set starter.
Henderson another. The list goes on. Only exeptional talents and players with the right mentality can break through in a team early on.
But you never know which one that does or doesn't. Paying 10+ million plus for that is madness imo.

[shanks13]

Give him a chance! It's too early to ask whether he has adapted etc etc yet. Had that volley gone in against City I doubt it would be a talking point.

I'd like to see him have a go down the middle (at least in patches) and move Suarez onto the left. Luis is effective cutting inside while Borini looks like one who is more effective instinctively getting shots off.

[Ola Mr Benitez]

Give him a chance! It's too early to ask whether he has adapted etc etc yet. Had that volley gone in against City I doubt it would be a talking point.

I'd like to see him have a go down the middle (at least in patches) and move Suarez onto the left. Luis is effective cutting inside while Borini looks like one who is more effective instinctively getting shots off.

Agree 100%, he must play down the middle and Suarez on one of the flanks.

You dont score 1 in 2 in Italy without being fairly decent, Im sure if he keeps working hard it will come for him, just not out wide where I dont think, as said here already, he has the trickery or guile to make the space he needs

[redalltheway36]

Should be played in middle with suarez on right. Because Suarez is more dangerous running towards goal than borini. Its just when luis  gets within 6 yards of the posts he turns into johnnie wilkinson for some reason. ive never seen any striker kick the ball over the crossbar as much as suarez does in my entire life.

[LFC1990]

The mind boggles why he doesnt start in a middle role. I mean Suarez is very skillful but struggles to bury easy chances. Give Borini a chance then im sure he will improve hugely.


                                     Reina
Johnson       Skrtel                      Agger      Enrique

                         Allen             Sahin

                                  Gerrard

Downing                      Borini                 Suarez


It looks a good team they should/could/would beat any team in the league on their day

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

i`d like to see rodgers experiment with this line up in a league cup or europa league game, i dont think this 4-3-3 suits the players we have at the club.
in this system agger can step into midfield with the ball (making the most of one of his attributes) and we`d still have 2 CB`s at the back.
suarez could roam around and do what he does best and borini would be in a central position making the most of his strikers instincts.
ngoo is raw but he`s tall, a physical presense and quite good on the deck. at least with this system you`ll always have at least 3 men up the park in attacking positions. i think rodgers needs to find a system to suit the players rather than the other way around, especially early on. this system is basically built around the games of agger, suarez and borini, it`s saying to them you go out and do what you do best.


                                                              reina

                                     skrtel                agger            coates   


   johnson                                 allen                   sahin                        downing/sterling


                                                             suarez


                                            borini                         ngoo

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

I'd play 4-4-2 with Assaidi and Suarez on the wings and Borini up front alongside Sterling, yes STERLING ! with Allen and Shelvey the two centre mids .
A bench of Jones,Coates,Morgan,Yesil ,Sahin ,Suso ,Robinson.

If Rodgers wants to play this type of football then Gerrard may have to sit out a few games if he is ever going to realise the need to adapt to a new position .