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Postby akumaface » Thu May 17, 2012 4:22 pm

I didn't feel surprised KK get the sack. Most of us are gutted by the decision because FSG  screwed one of the greatest figure in LFC history. Really depends on how you look at it. If you are A LFC fan, you would be thinking the yanks didn't understand shlt about The club and had no clue on the tradition and what LFC stand for. To the owner, LFC is just a business to them. Everything is about bottomline and performances. Earnings per share and dividend. The fans not wrong by not being happy at this decision but the owner is also not wrong either as it is their money. It is easy to question someone while the money is not yours. It wasn't like FSG was being cheap. 100 fooking million down the drain. So, I can't complain since KK was given the chance and resources to compete. Again, if it was someone else managing with these results, many would be calling for his head already. KK is a legend no doubt but his managerial skill had been questioned. We all know he lives and died with the club and trying his guts out to do what he believed was the best decision or choices at the time. Unfortunately, sometimes things just don't work out no matter how hard you try. So, we just have to accept the fact. We all wanted to ask for the owner to be more patience but we all know there is a signficant cultural differences. From where FSG comes from, it is very common for Americans sports team to change manager as I do watch a lot of baseball, hockey, basketball and stuff. They are too result oriented to a point that they don't even blink when making a decision like this. It just might take longer for the owner to understand the football tradition of LFC. Given time, the owners decision will not be as knee jerk. It is a sad day but no one can say he wasn't given a chance.
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Postby heimdall » Thu May 17, 2012 4:36 pm

Roger Red Hat » Thu May 17, 2012 1:21 pm wrote:I loved it when we scored a goal and he'd come flying out of the dug out turn and celebrate with whoever was sat behind him. He loved it.

http://youtu.be/iscaQ64UYd0


I guess it's just a shame we didn't see that more often.    :;):
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Postby burjennio » Thu May 17, 2012 4:40 pm

heimdall » Thu May 17, 2012 3:36 pm wrote:
Roger Red Hat » Thu May 17, 2012 1:21 pm wrote:I loved it when we scored a goal and he'd come flying out of the dug out turn and celebrate with whoever was sat behind him. He loved it.

http://youtu.be/iscaQ64UYd0


I guess it's just a shame we didn't see that more often.    :;):



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Is there any f*cking doubt with comments like that?
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Postby Octsky » Thu May 17, 2012 4:42 pm

akumaface » Thu May 17, 2012 3:22 pm wrote:I didn't feel surprised KK get the sack. Most of us are gutted by the decision because FSG  screwed one of the greatest figure in LFC history. Really depends on how you look at it. If you are A LFC fan, you would be thinking the yanks didn't understand shlt about The club and had no clue on the tradition and what LFC stand for. To the owner, LFC is just a business to them. Everything is about bottomline and performances. Earnings per share and dividend. The fans not wrong by not being happy at this decision but the owner is also not wrong either as it is their money. It is easy to question someone while the money is not yours. It wasn't like FSG was being cheap. 100 fooking million down the drain. So, I can't complain since KK was given the chance and resources to compete. Again, if it was someone else managing with these results, many would be calling for his head already. KK is a legend no doubt but his managerial skill had been questioned. We all know he lives and died with the club and trying his guts out to do what he believed was the best decision or choices at the time. Unfortunately, sometimes things just don't work out no matter how hard you try. So, we just have to accept the fact. We all wanted to ask for the owner to be more patience but we all know there is a signficant cultural differences. From where FSG comes from, it is very common for Americans sports team to change manager as I do watch a lot of baseball, hockey, basketball and stuff. They are too result oriented to a point that they don't even blink when making a decision like this. It just might take longer for the owner to understand the football tradition of LFC. Given time, the owners decision will not be as knee jerk. It is a sad day but no one can say he wasn't given a chance.


people like to throw the 100m like it is a magical figure, but forgetting we sold one of our crown jewel, goal scoring machine for 50m. bringing Kenny's net spending to be like nearer to 60m and ya, manyoo sign Berbatov for 30m to sit him on the bench.
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Postby heimdall » Thu May 17, 2012 4:43 pm

burjennio » Thu May 17, 2012 3:40 pm wrote:
heimdall » Thu May 17, 2012 3:36 pm wrote:
Roger Red Hat » Thu May 17, 2012 1:21 pm wrote:I loved it when we scored a goal and he'd come flying out of the dug out turn and celebrate with whoever was sat behind him. He loved it.

http://youtu.be/iscaQ64UYd0


I guess it's just a shame we didn't see that more often.    :;):



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Is there any f*cking doubt with comments like that?


I'm actually being honest, I loved to see his reactions on us scoring and if it had happened more often then he wouldn't have been sacked. But if you ask me if I'm glad he's gone then the answer is of course yes becuase the next manager WILL be better and have us challenging in the LEAGUE again.
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Postby akumaface » Thu May 17, 2012 4:50 pm

Octsky » Thu May 17, 2012 3:42 pm wrote:
akumaface » Thu May 17, 2012 3:22 pm wrote:I didn't feel surprised KK get the sack. Most of us are gutted by the decision because FSG  screwed one of the greatest figure in LFC history. Really depends on how you look at it. If you are A LFC fan, you would be thinking the yanks didn't understand shlt about The club and had no clue on the tradition and what LFC stand for. To the owner, LFC is just a business to them. Everything is about bottomline and performances. Earnings per share and dividend. The fans not wrong by not being happy at this decision but the owner is also not wrong either as it is their money. It is easy to question someone while the money is not yours. It wasn't like FSG was being cheap. 100 fooking million down the drain. So, I can't complain since KK was given the chance and resources to compete. Again, if it was someone else managing with these results, many would be calling for his head already. KK is a legend no doubt but his managerial skill had been questioned. We all know he lives and died with the club and trying his guts out to do what he believed was the best decision or choices at the time. Unfortunately, sometimes things just don't work out no matter how hard you try. So, we just have to accept the fact. We all wanted to ask for the owner to be more patience but we all know there is a signficant cultural differences. From where FSG comes from, it is very common for Americans sports team to change manager as I do watch a lot of baseball, hockey, basketball and stuff. They are too result oriented to a point that they don't even blink when making a decision like this. It just might take longer for the owner to understand the football tradition of LFC. Given time, the owners decision will not be as knee jerk. It is a sad day but no one can say he wasn't given a chance.


people like to throw the 100m like it is a magical figure, but forgetting we sold one of our crown jewel, goal scoring machine for 50m. bringing Kenny's net spending to be like nearer to 60m and ya, manyoo sign Berbatov for 30m to sit him on the bench.


Easy for you to say as the money is not yours. Unlike man u, anfield doesn't generate as much revenue because of lower seating capacity. So, 60 million net spending by percentage is huge. We can dislike FSG decision to dismiss KK but we can't really say FSG is cheap. Remember they have to fork out couple hundred million to buy the club to begin with.
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Postby Bad Bob » Thu May 17, 2012 5:00 pm

heimdall » Thu May 17, 2012 4:43 pm wrote:
I'm actually being honest, I loved to see his reactions on us scoring and if it had happened more often then he wouldn't have been sacked. But if you ask me if I'm glad he's gone then the answer is of course yes becuase the next manager WILL be better and have us challenging in the LEAGUE again.


But before that has a chance of reasonably unfolding you WILL start calling for his head and insisting we CHANGE managers again.  :;):
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Postby Thommo's perm » Thu May 17, 2012 5:18 pm

Bad Bob » Thu May 17, 2012 4:00 pm wrote:
heimdall » Thu May 17, 2012 4:43 pm wrote:
I'm actually being honest, I loved to see his reactions on us scoring and if it had happened more often then he wouldn't have been sacked. But if you ask me if I'm glad he's gone then the answer is of course yes becuase the next manager WILL be better and have us challenging in the LEAGUE again.


But before that has a chance of reasonably unfolding you WILL start calling for his head and insisting we CHANGE managers again.  :;):


The knobs who called for KKs head havent a clue how things work. The consequences, repercussions, aftermath. They just believe you get rid of someone who isnt doing the job properly and SHAZAM! the "new" guy comes in, waves his magic wand and everythings tickety-boo. Everythings rosy in the garden because the replacement is "new" and we all love "new" things dont we? Then when he is not doing the job properly, SHAZAM! another "new" guy. On and on it goes and the excitement continues because its all "NEW!!!"
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu May 17, 2012 5:59 pm

NANNY RED » Wed May 16, 2012 11:47 pm wrote:

you lying little get you told me the bitters had robbed them all


:laugh: In all seriousness though Girl , I woke up this morning disillusioned with football as a whole and the same deep sense of  foreboding I had when Hicks and co were still in charge ,and I cant for the life of me get that song out of my head "Its in the wrong hands ,its in the wrong hands ....Liverpool football club is in the wrong hands "....time to dust off my S.O.S badge and I might see you on our next march Nan  :nod
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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu May 17, 2012 6:07 pm

heimdall » Thu May 17, 2012 4:43 pm wrote:
burjennio » Thu May 17, 2012 3:40 pm wrote:
heimdall » Thu May 17, 2012 3:36 pm wrote:
I'm actually being honest, I loved to see his reactions on us scoring and if it had happened more often then he wouldn't have been sacked. But if you ask me if I'm glad he's gone then the answer is of course yes becuase the next manager WILL be better and have us challenging in the LEAGUE again.


What if the next manager isnt better and doesnt have us challenging in the league ?

Thats a very bold claim
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Postby electrum » Thu May 17, 2012 6:26 pm

""What if the next manager isnt better and doesnt have us challenging in the league ?

Thats a very bold claim""

Benny mate it's not a bold claim its a clueless, bell end's statement. He doesn't even know who the replcement is and Heimdall (WUM of the  decade) is giving guarantess on his performance being better.

Why do so many on here not realise the DANGEROUS PRECEDENT THAT HAS BEEN SET?

FSG stance appeasrs to be be top 4 or you're out.

So if we are 5th or lower we start fresh next year and the year after and.... 

Name me ONE Manager that with limited resources will assemble a top 4 team before August?

As someone already said -I fear for the future I REALLY do.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu May 17, 2012 7:37 pm

Roger Red Hat » Thu May 17, 2012 1:21 pm wrote:I loved it when we scored a goal and he'd come flying out of the dug out turn and celebrate with whoever was sat behind him. He loved it.

http://youtu.be/iscaQ64UYd0


He was all about  being a manager chosen by the fans for the fans .
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Postby Simari » Thu May 17, 2012 7:46 pm

After letting this sink in, My thoughts turned to Suarez and Carroll - 2 key players in whom, Kenny has built up confidence.

What happens now? Will we have to watch Andy re-build his confidence all over again with the club, irrespective of whether he performs for England this summer?

And Suarez, what motivation does he have to remain here?
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Postby 7_Kewell » Thu May 17, 2012 7:47 pm

i fail to understand why everyone think's our board are a bunch fo hire/fire merchants. In hindsight, Kenny should never have been given the long term job in the first place, simply because he wasn't the board's first choice. Instead, they appointed him because they felt backed into a corner, and now they're not prepared to give him another 100 million to spend, hence he's gone.

Roy was doomed before he started, and the board had little choice to axe him after the fan backlash.

The next appointment will be a young guy with a long term vision, which will be yet another 5 year plan. I know we've heard it all before (the five year plan that is) but it's the only way forward
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Postby RedAnt » Thu May 17, 2012 8:01 pm

7_Kewell » Thu May 17, 2012 6:47 pm wrote:i fail to understand why everyone think's our board are a bunch fo hire/fire merchants.  Kenny should never have been given the long term job in the first place, hence he's gone.

Roy was doomed before he started, and the board had little choice to axe him after the fan backlash.

The next appointment will be a...


Sorry mate, couldn't help but chuckle. That's exactly why people see them as hire/fire merchants. Ya forgot Comoli and the rest though  :D
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