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[RichardLFC1]

I would like to see Standard Chartered sponsor our new stadium and have the stadium named 'The Standard Chartered stadium'.

No thanks

[SouthCoastShankly]

Andre Villas Boas will be our new manager me thinks. I think the owners like a younger man which AVB is but then he is less of a risk than Martinez and Rodgers.

I think he could do a great job here aslong as he is appointed soon and has backing. He has links with a couple of the Porto players that if given the budget could come our way I.E HULK.

He was sacked by Chelsea but wasnt given the time to try and turn it around remember when he left they were still in the FA cup Champions League and Race for top 4.

Has learned off "The special one" for all you mourinho lovers.

In the 2010 - 2011 season Porto won the Portugese league and were undefeated.

His managerial record consists over 3 teams

Academica where he played 30 Games won 11 Drew 9 and Lost 10
Porto played 51 won 45 Drew 4 Lost 2
Chelsea Played 40 won 19 Drew 11 Lost 10

In total Games played 121 Won 75 Drew 24 Lost 22 win a win ratio of 61.98

That sort of record over a season will get you atleast top 4. This guy is hungry and like i mentioned previously he would be great in the transfer market. Being a Friend of Mourinho could he tempt him in the sale of Xabi Alonso or possibly any of the other Madrid Fringe players I.e Higuain.

To be fair it all depends on how the board are going to back the new manager.

I'm not sure.

The rumours have no credibility and they are spreading like wildfire and this is what is pushing the bookies to drop odds. A typical case of risk management by the bookmakers, they are covering their backs based on the spread of bets on AVB.

I personally would be far happier with Frank Rijkaard

[maypaxvobiscum]

"You want to move the club forward back to where it was before" - Kenny Dalglish, April 2012.

The concept of the past being Liverpool's future was one of the contradictions of Kenny Dalglish's second coming. Once the finest of strikers, he assembled a side that struggled to score. The Kop's darling managed a team who sent their supporters home frustrated by their inability to win at home. His charges were, until an awful first hour in the FA Cup final, terrific in the knockout competitions but, by Anfield's high standards, terrible in the league. A man who can be funny, even charming, in private proved needlessly hostile and invariably awkward in public.

A unifying figure when he returned, initially as caretaker manager, 16 months ago, had become divisive. Among his adherents, Dalglish was the answer, a galvanising force who had been let down by Damien Comolli and underperforming players and suffered at the whims of the woodwork, opposing goalkeepers and the Football Association.

For others, especially outside Anfield, he was the problem, crying misfortune instead of accepting Liverpool's failings, a manager whose policy of buying British had been a costly catastrophe and whose results, once so encouraging, deteriorated to the level that only Aston Villa, Blackburn and Wolves took fewer points in 2012.

"Disappointing" was the word owner John W Henry diplomatically used. It was an understandable understatement. The last 19 league games have yielded only 18 points. That should be unacceptable for Liverpool, just as eighth place, 47 goals and 52 points are nowhere near good enough. Hence the dispassionate decision taken in Boston. If the sacked manager's name were not Kenny Dalglish, this may have been uncontroversial.

Instead, it is the bravest move Fenway Sports Group could have made. Dalglish, rightly, commands huge loyalty at Anfield; many have memories of the Scot delivering victory in the 1978 European Cup final; still more, and still more significantly, recall the humanity, humility and dignity he displayed after the Hillsborough disaster. His is a greatness that extends beyond 172 goals or 515 games in a red shirt.

Pity, then, the successor who has to compete with a legend. Unless the next manager gets immediate results, the Dalglish diehards will call for the return of their King. They will be disappointed: American owners have shown they are Republicans. A Boston Tea Party has led to their declaration of independence from the Merseyside royalists. New World sensibilities have been imposed on a traditional club.

And as director of football Damien Comolli, head of sports science Peter Brukner and director of communications Ian Cotton had already discovered, they are ruthless. The level of FSG's disappointment with Liverpool's season should be obvious, the feeling that they deem the last 12 months a wasted year very clear.

Dalglish has been guilty of a series of misjudgements, both major and minor, over a troubled year. The mishandling of the Luis Suarez affair damaged the club's reputation and the team's season. His prickly persona was more of an issue in an age of 24-hour rolling sports coverage than it was in the analogue days of the 1980s; a man who, as Henry said, "personifies everything that is good about Liverpool" contrived to alienate and annoy in front of a camera.

His transfer dealings made it hard for FSG to trust Dalglish with funds this summer. Given the chance to perform a high-budget overhaul, he compiled a squad lacking a reasonable alternative to Lucas as a defensive midfielder or a clinical finisher. It was a group where almost all the finest performers were already at Anfield, the majority of the weak links the recent arrivals. There were too few signs that enough were playing for the manager in a dispiriting end to the campaign.

Meanwhile, the excessive fees paid for Stewart Downing, Jordan Henderson and Charlie Adam reflect poorly on Comolli. But the actual assessment that they had the talent and temperament Liverpool demand was the manager's mistake; they formed part of the case for the prosecution of Dalglish. The question has to be posed if the 61-year-old has the knowledge of foreign football required to recruit abroad; until comparatively recently, during his extended break from the frontline, he was still confusing two Premier League strikers with similar names but of very different capabilities.

Some complained that Dalglish had too little power; arguably he had too much. The manager was reluctant to heed advice - wearing the Suarez T-shirt was a particularly imprudent move - and at times his instincts betrayed him. For him, his way and the Liverpool Way were one and the same.

And yet this was not the 'Liverpool Way'. That was an incomparable tradition of winning. This was their poorest league season in half a century and came in an era when, unless in exceptional circumstances, the Premier League and the Champions League are the true barometers of progress.

After initial improvement when Dalglish replaced Roy Hodgson, Liverpool regressed. After a year of expensive underachievement, they are further away from contention in May 2012 than they were in May 2011. And so Fenway Sports Group will take a very different approach, almost certainly targeting a younger, more progressive manager. The sense of sadness that a job Dalglish had wanted to regain for 20 years should be removed from him after one should not disguise the necessity of a change at the helm. This is no time for sentiment.

Dalglish, the perfect appointment in 1985, was an imperfect choice forced upon the owners, 26 years later. The game had changed, and he proved a man out of time. Liverpool have made a decision to part company with their glorious past. The nostalgia trip is over. Now they have to accelerate into the future.


Brilliant article by Richard Jolly 
As for the ungrateful posters on here criticizing FSG, you deserve owners like G&H with an invisible spade in the ground and the club riddled with debt.

[Benny The Noon]

That article is a big pile of biased ***** against Kenny and it's no surprise people like you open your mouth and swallow it whole.

The new manager will be judge on the same standards as some have judged Kenny on - one season to succeed or you are out - no second chance no second season

Congrats people like you wanted us to be like Chelsea well we are halfway there

4 managers in 2 years !!! Embaressing

If you want to read someone who knows what they are talking about go and read Terry Mac's timeline on Twitter - that is someone who knows their stuff not some Southern bitter biased journo *****.

It's worse that supposed Liverpool fans post those articles with glee to stick the boot in.

[RichardLFC1]

That article is a big pile of biased ***** against Kenny and it's no surprise people like you open your mouth and swallow it whole.

The new manager will be judge on the same standards as some have judged Kenny on - one season to succeed or you are out - no second chance no second season

Congrats people like you wanted us to be like Chelsea well we are halfway there

4 managers in 2 years !!! Embaressing

If you want to read someone who knows what they are talking about go and read Terry Mac's timeline on Twitter - that is someone who knows their stuff not some Southern bitter biased journo *****.

It's worse that supposed Liverpool fans post those articles with glee to stick the boot in.

Dont think you should have used the word  "southern" their mate

[Benny The Noon]

That article is a big pile of biased ***** against Kenny and it's no surprise people like you open your mouth and swallow it whole.

The new manager will be judge on the same standards as some have judged Kenny on - one season to succeed or you are out - no second chance no second season

Congrats people like you wanted us to be like Chelsea well we are halfway there

4 managers in 2 years !!! Embaressing

If you want to read someone who knows what they are talking about go and read Terry Mac's timeline on Twitter - that is someone who knows their stuff not some Southern bitter biased journo *****.

It's worse that supposed Liverpool fans post those articles with glee to stick the boot in.

Dont think you should have used the word  "southern" their mate

If he isn't from London then take out the word - the rest is valid.

[Boxscarf]

No thanks

Get used to it mate, if and when our new stadium is constructed, it will be named after whoever sponsors it. If you seriously think FSG will invest £600m of their own money into building a stadium on top of the £300m they purchased the club with, then you're in lala land! If this club wants a new stadium then it needs to get sponsorship for that stadium to be built and we won't get sponsorship for a new stadium when the Global ecomony is looking bleak at the minute. Then there's the planning of the stadium, its design, approve from local council and of course the cost that goes into it. You have fans who want the manager and players to be given time and yet they expect the moon and the stars from the Owners as soon as possible.

[RedAnt]

Gutted that the Americans have sold our soul. Wether the right decision or wrong one remains to be seen, but the way they've gone about it leaves me feeling sick. We made progress but will now start again. New manager. New staff. New players. That isn't progress. It's resetting the board and starting again. Will miss you, Kenny. Don't worry, for most of us you still walk with us, rather than alone.

[Kenny Kan]

I'm absolutely gutted Kenny has been sacked and I thought he'd be given at least another season.

I'm trying to think how and why FSG came to their conclusion of firing a Liverpool legend, i.e looking at it from their perspective.

I'm not defending their decision because I thought Kenny should have been given more time, yet they are the owner's of this club and they have to make what the feel is the right decision primarily based from a businessman's point of view - that's how most clubs are operated these days, as businesses and it's pretty much the nature of the beast. Loyalty, nostalgia and everything else seems to go out of the window when decisions are made in football. Certainly this definitely works like this from a player's perspective - see Torres and others who pledge no allegiance to a team and club.

The owner's in this recent day and age are no different to the players they offer contracts to, and business prevails above anything - and in fairness should we expect anything else? After all it is their money that is plunged into the club, it was FSG's money that saved us from administration and ultimately their decision is final. Had they resided in England and worked from there, I reckon their decsion would have been MUCH harder to make realising how much Kenny is adored here and how much of a divide it could have made, and realising at least the man needed at east 2 seasons to show them what he is capable of. Football today is a cut throat industry and whether the owner's are American or Russian sentiment doesn't wash, I'd like to think this sentimental thing is an English value, if not a Liverpudlian one.

But away in Boston where there isn't nowhere near as much media coverage and pressure on LFC's manager's future, FSG could have made their judgement cast from an objective/business point of view. And when you look at it like that, perhaps this was the right decision, certainly in their mind, 8th isn't good enough, and it's fair to say Kenny did drop a bollo.ck or two perhaps with big money buys, who were supposed to get us a realistic chance at fourth this season.

The pressure is certainly on them now, they are the ones under the microscope, not Kenny, who's been relived of this pressure. If they sign a manager like Martinez, Lambert, O'neill, AVB or anyone else of that ilk, and heaven forbid it goes 't.its ups'' it's them who have failed the club. I can't believe some of the names being banded about and I hope they aren't true, LFC need a tried and texted manager who ACTUALLY knows the values of the club, one who will stand his ground in a dodgey race row, who who will defend his players and one who won't bend over and be shafted by the likes of Whiskey nose across the park. And without saying this all goes hand in glove with the team's tactics being right and the performances and even more so the results being good enough, that said it's not just 'doing' the right thing by the club that is important, it's 'knowing' what the the right thing by the club is, and for this FSG will be under the spotlight, certainly in my eyes.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

No thanks

Get used to it mate, if and when our new stadium is constructed, it will be named after whoever sponsors it. If you seriously think FSG will invest £600m of their own money into building a stadium on top of the £300m they purchased the club with, then you're in lala land! If this club wants a new stadium then it needs to get sponsorship for that stadium to be built and we won't get sponsorship for a new stadium when the Global ecomony is looking bleak at the minute. Then there's the planning of the stadium, its design, approve from local council and of course the cost that goes into it. You have fans who want the manager and players to be given time and yet they expect the moon and the stars from the Owners as soon as possible.

i`d rather we threw a few jumpers down as goalposts on stanley park and played there.

[Reg]

Complete and utter cr@p Kenny, our feckin' hamster could write more sense than that.

[stmichael]

on the owners, they should be over here justifying to the fans why they've come to this decision. anybody can sit over the other side of the world behind a statement.

[Kenny Kan]

Complete and utter cr@p Kenny, our feckin' hamster could write more sense than that.

I'm all ears Reg.

[Roger Red Hat]

I do actually understand why FSG have done this. It really is with the clubs best interests at heart. They see that Kenny has steadied the sinking ship, won us some silverware, nearly won us some more, got us back into a european competition etc and now they believe we can go the next step upwards but we need a new gaffer to take us there. We all love Kenny, that'll never change but it seems FSG have decided he'd done what they wanted him to do (except the league place) and now it's time to move on. New gaffer to come in and stir the place up a bit. If we finish next season top four then we'll all look back at this as a good thing.

in the meantime we will lick our wounds and speculate who the new man will be.

[Kenny Kan]

KENNY DALGLISH today delivered a heartfelt message of thanks to Liverpool FC supporters as he started coming to terms with being sacked as Anfield manager.

The club legend and departed Reds boss, who was dismissed late yesterday by Boston based owners Fenway Sports Group, also called on Liverpool fans to stick by the owners who pulled the plug on his reign after just 16 months.

Dalglish, now on holiday abroad, told the ECHO late last night: “The response from the supporters on social media websites has been overwhelming and very, very humbling. Liverpool is still a great football club, still a club that should believe in whoever is going to come in after myself.

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“Hopefully they will support that person as well as they have supported myself, which has been fantastic. The support the fans gave us was a huge influence in winning that (Carling Cup) trophy.

“To be perfectly honest, in most of the games this season the players have covered themselves with great credit. They have been a credit to themselves and to the football club.”

Added Dalglish, whose high profile signings included young stars like Andy Carroll and Jordan Henderson: “You cannot underestimate the pressure that is on a boy who comes to play for Liverpool.

“But in the first year, what they have done has been a credit.

“There is now a great foundation to build on and to move forward with. The supporters, not just for myself but for everyone else, have always been fantastically supportive of the team – and that should not change.

No one should underestimate the role the Liverpool fans play - or the appreciation the players have for the supporters.

“Taking aside the decision made about myself, for four players to be in Roy Hodgson’s England squad for Euro 2012, and for Jordan Henderson to be on standby as well, is a great credit to the players.

“It’s fantastic for the club and those players – and I hope they go on and represent everybody well.”

Added Dalglish: “The fans will always, always stick with Liverpool Football Club and support the players and the team and the person that is to be the next manager of the club. That’s the way these fans have been brought up and that’s the way it should continue.

“For me it’s obviously going to be different, not being involved in the way I have been as before. But that doesn’t mean I don’t want Liverpool to go on now and be really successful. And that’s the same for anyone who now comes in to the club.

“What Liverpool FC deserves and the supporters deserve is far more important than me.”

Regarding the American owners, under fire from some LFC fans over the controversial decision, he said: “I would hope nobody would prejudge things now. The owners have their own reasons for doing what they have done.

"They came in to help the club at a time when it wasn’t in a great condition. They have improved it, taken it forward and are doing the best they can

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